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Flight Attendants Union Challenges FAA Decision Allowing Passengers to Use Electronics in All Phases of Flight
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"Fly a plane? What is it?"
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I thought that was Tattoo...
"Deplane! Deplane!"
Sorry, but the idea of a flight is to get me from point A to point B, period.
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I think most people agree with the rule of no cell conversations because that could make a flight a screaming mess as everyone tried to talk louder than the others to be heard. However, the use of devices during take off and landing does not pose a threat or enough of a threat to outweigh the personal freedom. Any airline could ban this but they don't because they know their customers want it, plain and simple.
Also, I must say that if there were any chance whatsoever that a cell phone could actually interfere with the plane's navigation you would have to check them or the FAs would gather them up as you boarded. There's no way any airline is going to leave the actual safety of the aircraft in each individuals' hands hoping they comply with the airplane mode rule.
This lawsuit is going nowhere...
50,000 miles!!
OMG on my last Frontier flight (and I used to LOVE Frontier) I not only had to pay for my carry-on, but listen to that credit card pitch. I felt sort of sorry for the flight attendants. Not only do they have to be baby-sitters on what pretty much is mass transit now (with those kind of passengers) but also now have to be sales associates for just about every service.
Normally I fly Southwest but the company booked the return flight on Frontier. Ugh it was awful.
OMG on my last Frontier flight (and I used to LOVE Frontier) I not only had to pay for my carry-on, but listen to that credit card pitch. I felt sort of sorry for the flight attendants. Not only do they have to be baby-sitters on what pretty much is mass transit now (with those kind of passengers) but also now have to be sales associates for just about every service.
Normally I fly Southwest but the company booked the return flight on Frontier. Ugh it was awful.
Or those who have issues with flying/heights, and/or being in confined spaces and/or being in very close proximity with many other strangers? There are certainly plenty of people like that all over.
Just imagine. You're a career flight attendant. Decades of airlines reorganization have driven wage cuts, seniority losses, and hours increases. Decorum and civility have practically evaporated among passengers.
Through it all, you've been loyally paying your union dues to the AFA, even as those dues have continued to rise while pay has fallen. You know union leadership must have been biding its time to stick up for the everyday flight attendant and finally, after decades, put points on-the-board for labor.
Finally, today, the AFA strikes... to BRING BACK THE BANE OF EVERY FLIGHT ATTENDANT'S EXISTENCE, ARGUING WITH PASSENGERS TO TURN OFF THEIR CELL PHONES.
You can not write a script like this.
Through it all, you've been loyally paying your union dues to the AFA, even as those dues have continued to rise while pay has fallen. You know union leadership must have been biding its time to stick up for the everyday flight attendant and finally, after decades, put points on-the-board for labor.
Finally, today, the AFA strikes... to BRING BACK THE BANE OF EVERY FLIGHT ATTENDANT'S EXISTENCE, ARGUING WITH PASSENGERS TO TURN OFF THEIR CELL PHONES.
You can not write a script like this.
Sorry, you must have missed the context of the original message which the poster responded to. I'm a frequent flier. I've heard the message so many time I could be a FA. I know the lights lead to the nearest exit; that I should use the oxygen mask before administering to my child; that the seat cushion is a floatation device, etc, etc.
So again, please tell me (in context with The posters response to the original message) how me quietly reading affects anyone else on the plane?
If you can't I suggest getting off your high horse.
This is even a thing?
No one is unclear on how a seatbelt works.
This is all about ad placement surrounding the briefing. Airline attendants take a miniscule pause after the safety brief to tell you they serve Coca Cola products aboard this flight blah blah blah.
I'm getting an ad served in the iPad via whatever product placement is happening during my movie anyway. Chill.
No one is unclear on how a seatbelt works.
This is all about ad placement surrounding the briefing. Airline attendants take a miniscule pause after the safety brief to tell you they serve Coca Cola products aboard this flight blah blah blah.
I'm getting an ad served in the iPad via whatever product placement is happening during my movie anyway. Chill.
I dunno, at least the first time *I* flew (back in 1999, I was 22 years old, so not a kid) I thought it was the coolest thing ever and paid attention to EVERYTHING going on. Trust me, when people experience something for the first time they pay attention.
Hundreds of flights later, though, I already know my seat cushion can be used as a flotation device, and to put on the damned oxygen mask if the cabin depressurizes. Anyone (who isn't disabled physically or mentally) who can't figure that **** out after flying several times deserves their fate, I suppose.
In my industry, someone who knows is called an expert and has an expertise, not an informed opinion... that may be the difference between us... In the Las Vegas industry, you may be right, they call it opinion...
My poor Elvis, so many crimes committed in your name...
?? Doesn't make sense. What about unexpected behavior in-flight? It's not hard, it's a matter of choice. If someone has flown hundreds of times they are familiar with procedure. Not to mention I know a few people who really don't like flying and need to listen to music during take-off/landing to calm their nerves. This is purely a soup-nazi tactic.
If the union wants this because they think devices cause some kind of interference then the pilots should be involved as well and why aren't the pilots saying anything? If there truly is risk then why is the FAA allowing them? I'd genuinely like to know.
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The logic is insane. (for those that take more than 30 seconds to go through it all).
If I was a FA - I would immediately cancel my membership. What kind of idiots are in charge there.
Oh, and if there was some logic (not), each airline could change the rules without any federal approval.
INSANE.
INSANE.
I keep reading this and think maybe it is April Fools.
If I was a FA - I would immediately cancel my membership. What kind of idiots are in charge there.
Oh, and if there was some logic (not), each airline could change the rules without any federal approval.
INSANE.
INSANE.
I keep reading this and think maybe it is April Fools.
I think you have hit it. This is actually a fairly big part of their job. The projectile argument is laughable as anyone with a few neurons can tell.
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I think it supports the idea that airplanes are designed and tested to handle Wifi signals and that's about it. This component failed and it's being replaced. This is how it has to be because they aren't using wifi detectors to check each and every phone. They have to design for worst case scenario which is every person has a phone with wifi on...and as an engineer myself, I know they do. The engineers at Boeing and other airline manufacturers are not stupid.
I'm amazed at all the snarkiness on this topic.
I also think they people are taking it much too literally when they are referring to the standard safety briefing. I think the concern is if there is an issue during takeoff or landing, the most dangerous phases of flight, and half the plane has earbuds in and can't hear any announcements or instructions.
99.9999+% of the time it won't be an issue. But for that one incident where it is, it could end up being tragic. I seriously doubt flight attendants derive any joy out of telling people to turn off their devices. They probably enjoy their phones as much as you do...and based on the snarky responses on here - I'm sure it's not a pleasant experience.
I also think they people are taking it much too literally when they are referring to the standard safety briefing. I think the concern is if there is an issue during takeoff or landing, the most dangerous phases of flight, and half the plane has earbuds in and can't hear any announcements or instructions.
99.9999+% of the time it won't be an issue. But for that one incident where it is, it could end up being tragic. I seriously doubt flight attendants derive any joy out of telling people to turn off their devices. They probably enjoy their phones as much as you do...and based on the snarky responses on here - I'm sure it's not a pleasant experience.
Outlandish? Nope, you make more than enough for what you do and can do even more things IMO.
False.
There are NTSB reports of accidents where people died because they couldn't figure out how to work the seatbelt before they were killed in an aircraft fire.
I trust the NTSB more than your wild guess of what is clear to all passengers.
I actually agree with the premise that most of us would be better off with a little more "unplugged" time, but most of us would be better off with more exercise, and I don't think that's a reason for the airlines to make us run laps in the terminal, do you?
True, but from their point of view there would always be someone who is flying for the first time.
How does the flight attendant know that YOU have flown hundred of times and you could rescue all passengers in the event of a disaster, while Bob who's sitting next to you and has some kind of disability, is flying for the first time?
Although frankly, the probability of walking away from the kind of emergency landing described in the safety briefing is so low that I've always wondered what they were for in the first place...