eltoslightfoot
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I would love to still be able to bootcamp to windows. Then 8 GB of RAM would be fine for my on the go device. I think those days are long gone however.
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Steve Adams
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Steve Adams
macrumors 68000
It's been over 10 days since @_lie has switched. Is it time for him to switch back again? ha ha ha. I would keep all my computers at that point and just take what tickles my fancy at that day. I think that's going to be my endgame after I sell the house and figure out what office work space I have to work with in our new home.
The wife and I are going to be sharing a space so I have to make sure I have all my computing gear filed away. I figure if I get a new XPS laptop, a macbook air and a linux laptop like a system 76, I can file all those away easy. Work in a new PC build with dual NVME one for windows the other for linux in one box, and a mac mini on my desk, it won't take up much space.
Thats the good thing about laptops these days, they can all fit in a small space in sleeves.
The wife and I are going to be sharing a space so I have to make sure I have all my computing gear filed away. I figure if I get a new XPS laptop, a macbook air and a linux laptop like a system 76, I can file all those away easy. Work in a new PC build with dual NVME one for windows the other for linux in one box, and a mac mini on my desk, it won't take up much space.
Thats the good thing about laptops these days, they can all fit in a small space in sleeves.
Steve Adams
macrumors 68000
Good, now can they do that multiple times so the big corps loose more money? thanks! ha ha
I'm just hoping that RAM and SSD prices get reasonable again. Maybe they can develop some new compression algorithms for storage in addition to RAM.
One of the first more comprehensive Panther Lake comparisons to the M5 Air. OLED 3K display, PCIe NVMe Gen 5 SSD, and better speakers than the MacBook were big surprises. Also that it has better battery life and runs cooler. M5 wins CPU and GPU performance but the CPU and GPU are more than enough for the vast majority of users on Panther Lake. The Panther Lake rollout has been like molasses.
eltoslightfoot
macrumors 68040
There are also versions where the integrated graphics are basically good enough to game on the go! Integrated! Crazy!
I've read that Apple is planning to add ads to Apple Maps this summer. I assume that that could mean more tracking down the road.
BSDnostalgia
macrumors 6502
In most performance tests, the Air was faster, and, cheaper, and fanless. And, runs MacOS. The reviewer liked the HP display better, though it was super-glossy. And the HP speakers. But, mainly, the HP has access to a bazillion native Windows games. So, if gaming is your thing, pick the Windows system. If not, the Air performs better fanless than the HP did with the fan blowing. IOW, if gaming is not your thing, pick the Air. IOW, nothing has changed ...
Yes, as I wrote.
CPU and GPU aren't everything though. And Panther Lake is more than enough for the typical user.
I have software that runs poorly on Apple Silicon and the Panther Lake laptops coming out, particularly those under 1 kg, are attractive to me.
I think that I'm going to cross the Thinkpad X1 Carbon Gen 14 off my list. I priced out the model in Singapore and the base model CPU is $3,640 USD. Stuff that would be standard in the US is optional there though it's possible that this could be the case in the US when it launches due to higher SSD and RAM prices.
I really like the idea of 2.2 pounds weight but the battery is 25% less capacity which roughly translates to 25% battery life - which makes complete sense. This is with the LED screen. So I'll just stick with my Lunar Lake for now and maybe wait to see what comes after Panther Lake before upgrading.
I really like the idea of 2.2 pounds weight but the battery is 25% less capacity which roughly translates to 25% battery life - which makes complete sense. This is with the LED screen. So I'll just stick with my Lunar Lake for now and maybe wait to see what comes after Panther Lake before upgrading.
Steve Adams
macrumors 68000
If you get the panther lake X7 or X9 the tables turn to the point where its mere seconds between them for everything.
Steve Adams
macrumors 68000
I have been having PC schizophrenia this past few weeks. back and forth between this and that. My current laptop while dying a slow death supposedly, has been for the most part working fine. The current processor is on par with the M1 processor that is fine for editing videos and photos without issue. It will do what i need to do when we are on the road and wanting to create a video or a podcast. Software is the bigger differentiator. Kdenlive instead of Resolve, Luminar/Affinity/RapidRaw/Polarr instead of Adobe products. Things work much better with lighter software.
At home my current desktop is on par with an M3 Pro for graphics processing and about an M1 Pro for CPU power. Again, Plenty for our needs. We will spend money on cameras and audio equipment and new pcs for the wife before I get anything new. I would rather spend money on experiences than equipment anyways. We need 3 sony ZV-1, a few Go Pros, and some audio stuff. That would all only come to the price of a new macbook pro for me.
Time to get at it!
At home my current desktop is on par with an M3 Pro for graphics processing and about an M1 Pro for CPU power. Again, Plenty for our needs. We will spend money on cameras and audio equipment and new pcs for the wife before I get anything new. I would rather spend money on experiences than equipment anyways. We need 3 sony ZV-1, a few Go Pros, and some audio stuff. That would all only come to the price of a new macbook pro for me.
Time to get at it!
eltoslightfoot
macrumors 68040
These are also impressive for on the go gaming. I mean I am not replacing my Lenovo Legion Pro 7 yet, but dang....not bad at all.
Intel's 'Panther Lake' Graphics Let Me Play Cyberpunk at 170FPS—This Could Be Huge for PC Gaming
Based on what I saw, Panther Lake signals a future where high-FPS PC gaming doesn’t require a discrete GPU.
Steve Adams
macrumors 68000
I am impressed with the Arc graphics since it came out. For video encoding exporting, even the first Gen graphics cards like the a390 paired with a 12th or 13th gen intel took advantage of hyperencode. It was faster than the best Nvidia had to offer at that function. Great for creators.These are also impressive for on the go gaming. I mean I am not replacing my Lenovo Legion Pro 7 yet, but dang....not bad at all.
Intel's 'Panther Lake' Graphics Let Me Play Cyberpunk at 170FPS—This Could Be Huge for PC Gaming
Based on what I saw, Panther Lake signals a future where high-FPS PC gaming doesn’t require a discrete GPU.www.pcmag.com
Now they have the same technology built into the mobile chips. Plus more!
I am holding off as long as I can, but my next laptop will be something with Panther Lake X or the next version if my laptop lasts that long.
maflynn
macrumors Broadwell
I'm not sold, if you want to save some money go with AMD.
What seems to be the hottest game on the market lately, does not work on intel GPUs - Crimson Desert Doesn't Work on Intel GPUs, But Pearl Abyss Is Working On It
Its just not that game, but overall driver quality, support from intel, and yes game developers. Its not worth saving a few hundred dollars on something that probably won't work well or at all.
Steve Adams
macrumors 68000
I don't game so it's irrelevant to me. All I care about is creative application performance. That's where the arc shines. Like I said, for certain creative workflows arc with an Intel processor will be much faster than an amd chip/intel chip with Nvida/radeon graphics.
The B770 with 32gb of Vram is a great deal for creative workflows on windows, as long as you have a 12th gen or newer cpu.
I don't game either. I just want normal and efficient graphics processing.
I actually find that Intel is very good at driver support. My Lunar Lake system has Intel WiFi, Bluetooth and Graphics and they have been good with updates and I haven't had any of the screwy driver behavior that I get with nVidia GPUs.
diamond.g
macrumors G5
It seems like Intel updates their GPU drivers about once every quarter. Which probably isn't a bad thing (if you don't play games).
EDIT: People shouldn't be updating the drivers unless they fix something that was broken in your workflow anyways (best results for system stability).
EDIT: People shouldn't be updating the drivers unless they fix something that was broken in your workflow anyways (best results for system stability).
Non-Euclidean
macrumors 6502a
As a relative newcomer in the GPU market means Intel has to, to update drivers more often for compatibility and performance.
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diamond.g
macrumors G5
Eh, it looks like most of the improvements they have been adding are for games. Not to say there are no productivity fixes (notice I didn't say improvements)...
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Gaming Tech
Introducing Intel Graphics Shader Distribution Service which will help improve first load times up to 2x on Intel Arc B-series GPUs, Intel Core Ultra Series 3 and Series 2 with built-in Intel Arc GPUs for the following games
Black Myth: Wukong
Borderlands 4
Call of Duty: Black Ops 6
Call of Duty: Black Ops 7
Cyberpunk 2077
God of War Ragnarök
Gotham Knights
Hogwarts Legacy
NBA 2K26
Starfield
S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Remastered
The Outer Worlds 2
Game Ready
Death Stranding 2: On the Beach
Everwind
Performance Improvements
Nioh 3 (DX12)
Up to 9% average FPS uplift at 1080p with Ultra settings
Fixed Issues:
Intel Core Ultra Series 3 with built-in Intel Arc GPUs:
Naraka Bladepoint (DX12) may experience an application crash with Ray Tracing settings enabled.
Hogwarts Legacy (DX12) may exhibit corruption during cinematics.
Davinci Resolve Studio may exhibit visual corruption in the viewport while resizing the window with HDR enabled.
Intel Arc B-Series Graphics Products:
Naraka Bladepoint (DX12) may experience an application crash with Ray Tracing settings enabled.
Known Issues:
Intel Core Ultra Series 3 with built-in Intel Arc GPUs:
The Finals (DX12) may experience an intermittent application crash.
No Man's Sky (VK) may exhibit corruptions on certain terrains during gameplay.
Star Citizen (VK) may experience an application crash on game launch.
Mafia: The Old Country (DX12) may experience an application crash during gameplay.
Adobe Premiere Pro may experience an application crash when exporting HEVC codec based media on Microsoft Windows OS 26200.7840 or later
Intel Arc B-Series Graphics Products:
Call of Duty Black Ops 6 (DX12) may exhibit intermittent corruptions on certain water surfaces during gameplay.
Dune: Awakening (DX12) may exhibit flickering corruptions during gameplay.
Star Citizen (VK) may experience an application crash on game launch.
PugetBench for Davinci Resolve Studio may experience an intermittent application crash while running the benchmark. Recommendation is to change the timeout slider to 1500 seconds or higher, to wait for each test to complete, in PugetBench benchmark settings.
Intel Arc A-Series Graphics Products:
PugetBench for Davinci Resolve Studio may experience an intermittent application crash while running the benchmark. Recommendation is to change the timeout slider to 1500 seconds or higher, to wait for each test to complete, in PugetBench benchmark settings.
Intel Core Ultra Series 1 with built-in Intel Arc GPUs:
Battlefield 6 (DX12) may exhibit intermittent corruptions on certain maps during gameplay.
Intel Core Ultra Series 2 with built-in Intel Arc GPUs:
Call of Duty Black Ops 6 (DX12) may exhibit intermittent corruptions on certain water surfaces during gameplay.
Battlefield 6 (DX12) may exhibit intermittent corruptions on certain maps during gameplay on some notebooks with Intel Core Ultra Series 2 with built-in Intel Arc GPUs.
No Man's Sky (VK) may exhibit corruptions on certain terrains during gameplay.
Intel Graphics Software Fixed Issues:
Intel Graphics Software may sometimes experience an application crash while navigating between pages using keyboard.
Performance metrics on Intel Graphics Software may not show actual values on certain configurations when both Integrated and Discrete adapters are enabled.
Intel Graphics Software Known Issues:
When using the settings, preferences, reset all settings option in Windows 10 the application may experience an intermittent crash. Settings can be reset from individual pages without issue.
Intel Graphics Software may sometimes experience a single application crash on the first re-arrange of metrics within the select metrics window. Subsequent usage will not be affected by this crash again.
Performance page in Intel Graphics Software may not hide the graphs when using the hide graphs button.
Performance page in Intel Graphics Software may not function as expected when adding new metrics.One of the annoying things about nVidia is that they seem to do a big update around December to support new and upcoming models and they break old models.
I'm running fine on Intel Integrated on my desktop and my Yoga. I removed the 1050 Ti and 1660 Ti from the system as I don't think that I really need a discrete GPU for what I'm doing right now. I'd probably get a 5050 or an Intel Arc if I felt the need to go discrete.
eltoslightfoot
macrumors 68040
Yeah they have already backtracked after they got so much flak. 😀 We will see. More competition benefits everyone.
One of the most annoying things about Panther Lake is that they are rolling it out in other countries but not in the United States. I think that there are Panther Lake laptops that you can order in the United States but they are not thin and light and they may take a while to get the order filled.
I was looking around for Panther Lake and I ran into Panther Lake NUCs that are being sold in China.
I wish Apple would just release the M5 Max Studio - I could just get that and maybe run everything from that except my Windows program which I could run on the Yoga.
I was looking around for Panther Lake and I ran into Panther Lake NUCs that are being sold in China.
I wish Apple would just release the M5 Max Studio - I could just get that and maybe run everything from that except my Windows program which I could run on the Yoga.