I know a few bartenders here in Colorado, and they've all been trained to accept the myColorado app as valid proof of age.I'm not sure what this is going to be used for if it doesn't work for driving, I don't think bartenders or grocery stores are going to accept these as proof of age - especially not at first.
TSA will be cool at least.
Baby steps, I guess?
FaceID works just fine for me with the myColorado app. You may want to dig around in the settings and see if you can enable it. I don't remember having to do that myself; I think it just offered when I first set it up.When "myColorado" uses FaceID, then it will be good. Like so many other apps, it conveniently forgets your username and password when you need it most, even when the "remember me" checkbox is selected. It also never stores them in keychain so the app is useless. "Wallet" has always worked near flawlessly whenever I needed it.
It's definitely handy, though I did have a bank teller tell me yesterday that it wasn't going to cut it as valid ID for certain things. She didn't elaborate on what those things were, and accepted it for my deposit. (Don't get me started on why I had to go back to 1995 and deposit my checks with a real person). I do agree though that wallet integration would be ideal.Yep. I have used that app to show proof of vax at concerts. And agree: Wallet integration is preferred.
You likely know it but you can add your myCO authentication info to Keychain manually.When "myColorado" uses FaceID, then it will be good. Like so many other apps, it conveniently forgets your username and password when you need it most, even when the "remember me" checkbox is selected. It also never stores them in keychain so the app is useless. "Wallet" has always worked near flawlessly whenever I needed it.
exactly, how could several DMV agents make any money from selling older and out of state licenses ID?I guarantee you that NJ will be dead last to adopt the digital ID.
But why? If the spyware is reporting you to the government, they already have your license and passport and can get access to your phone and credit card histories with a subpoena.Yeah no chance in hell. Apple has broken the trust of their customers with their spyware backdoor. They can no longer claim to be about or protect user privacy and security and I will never put my license on their phone.
This! As another (now 11 year) Floridia resident, my other friends look at the average FL news feed and laugh at us non-stop.a rare positive Florida headline
RTFA.So police stop me, ask me for my license then I show my iPhone then what… they can have access to all my info in my phone?
So, don't hand them your phone? As has been stated many times, these systems are being designed for you to present your phone to display your ID and however it gets read. You should never be handing it over to anyone.BAD IDEA FOLKS!!!
Never give your phone (locked or unlocked) over to a law enforcement agent. EVER. Do not unlock it. They need a warrant (and probable cause) to search your phone, but will suggest otherwise. Their job is to uphold the law (find people guilty), not prove people innocent. The electronic driver’s license is how law enforcement will trick people into handing over their phone. If you happen to unlock the phone before handing it over (intentionally or accidental face-unlock), you have just given your blessing to have the phone searched. This is the same reason for shutting & locking your car if you are asked to exit your vehicle.
Best practices for everyone: if you are stopped by an officer, make sure your phone is put into a semi-locked state (power+volume up, then hit cancel) so a passcode is required. If you aren’t planning on videoing or recording audio, power it off. All notifications should be obscured unless the phone is unlocked (somehow your buddies will send you inappropriate texts at an inopportune time). Be polite. Don’t argue. Don’t over share and create unwanted evidence. Remember that you can always fight it out in court - that’s why there are defense lawyers and a judge to hear both sides of the case.
Any official vax cert w/o a photo on it to eliminate requiring a companion ID is a complete failure of design and political leadership.Agreed! the 2 app approach to the covid vaccine proof is ridiculous. Florida is going to beat NYS with digital license is embarrassing !!
Sorry, but covid apps are nearly useless in most places.They couldn’t even take advantage of the COVID-19 tracker API… sheesh!
Waiting on your Legislators to get their act together.Come on California...
Mission creep never happens? Like instantly?It says they take a picture to confirm your identity - something they also do when you renew a license at the DMV. I hardly think this is something out of the ordinary.
I go off the assumption the government can track me already by simply locating my cellphone location off of cell towers and the only way to avoid that is to avoid carrying a phone which isn't something I'm prepared to do. This digital ID is really just convenience and I don't see how it invades my privacy beyond how things stand currently. I say this as someone who very much values their privacy and has no social media.
Officer: I was just going to take a look but now you are inviting me to plug this giant cable and mysterious box into your iPhone."License? I'm sorry officer, but my iPhone battery just died!"
They need a warrant (and probable cause) to search your phone, but will suggest otherwise. Their job is to uphold the law (find people guilty), not prove people innocent. The electronic driver’s license is how law enforcement will trick people into handing over their phone.
If you happen to unlock the phone before handing it over (intentionally or accidental face-unlock), you have just given your blessing to have the phone searched. This is the same reason for shutting & locking your car if you are asked to exit your vehicle.
It is basically a pic of your license verified by the state. Nothing more and nothing less. The AP ID verification checks to see if the nbr, name and date of birth match what’s on file with the state. Will work with a state ID that has no driving privileges as well. The app is an ID only checker ….it does not actually check to see if you have driving privilege. That is why you still need an actual license to driveFlorida: Don't tell me what to do, don't track me. But now I can send my ID to Apple? Sweet! <sigh>
Yes, I wholeheartedly agree, you can make a questionable or okay situation go real bad real fast. Been down that road and fortunately knew when to shut up.If they need a warrant to search your phone, why would they be interested in "tricking" you into handing over your phone? Everything they find would subject to suppression.
You don't hand your phone over to anyone in this scenario. It works like Apple pay does, or with a scannable QR code. You maintain physical control of your device at all times.
This is without a doubt the worst roadside Lionel Hutz lawyering I've ever seen or heard. First off, simply handing your device over noes not constitute consent. Second, consent can be revoked at ANY TIME without reprisal. So even if you did sign a consent to search anything (your vehicle, your phone, your home, etc) and as the cops were about to open the drawer that you had "XYZ CONTRABAND" in and you blurted out I REVOKE MY CONSENT NOW!!! They have to stop, and can't use the withdraw of your consent as probable cause when trying to get a warrant to proceed.
Locking your car after being asked to exit your vehicle has no implications on the legality of a search or any sort of consent, implied or expressed. If a cop sees something in plain sight in your vehicle, they can seize it. Locked car or not. If a cop has reason to believe your car has weapons in it that can harm him/her and you have possession of the keys, that is constructive possession of the vehicle contents. You can unlock it for a cursory examination for weapons, or you can sit in the back of a police car and watch them do it with the keys they fished out of your pocket. That's your choice, of course. When it comes to safety, the courts have almost universally sided with police, particularly on roadside encounters, pedestrian and traffic stops.
Most cops are decent people. They just want to make a paycheck and go home at night. There are a LOT of bad cops out there though, and when bad advice like this meets those bad cops is when things can get ugly quickly. Don't make like you know your rights when you don't. In some instances you seem assert rights you don't have, and in others you neglect to point out the rights you do have. So when you make it seem you know what you're talking about, you just make things bad for people you may be trying to help.
Your assertion that fighting your battles in court is excellent advice. I wholeheartedly agree. And pay the money for the good lawyer. Public Pretenders are crap.
Here's a phone charger, plug it into your car. Done."License? I'm sorry officer, but my iPhone battery just died!"
They would have to admit everyone has an ID first. 😂Come on California...