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It's a nonissue for me, movies and music sound 1,000 times better with AirPods Max. Phone is muted the rest of the time, since notification pings and ring tones are annoying and disruptive.

For me I watch the odd video or YouTube randomly in the morning or through the day. Like if someone sends you something or you’re bored. It’s mainly that - and the odd loudspeaker calls.

For watching anything else of course you’d use AirPods.
 
Yeah I have mixed feelings on the battery case, I might use it if I'm in a part of the house where I don't like having tech cables strung all over the place. I'm not an accessory person and often don't use cases unless I'm going out of the house. Plus, I feel anything put on it is going to add weight, even just a bumper, and run counter to the idea of having a phone called "air" to begin with.

I cancelled the Apple MagSafe pack because it’s not that great. With third party ones you can charge them with MagSafe, charge other items, and they have more capacity.

For example a comparable anker etc has 5000mAH. There’s even ones that are 1/3rd thicker that are 10,000mAH. That’s because they use silicon carbide instead.

So I’m going to wait for those packs to get updated for the air - or for reviewers to check if they fit.

I like the idea of 5000-10000 available in another pocket or bag near by, or at least charged and ready at home for that day you’ll be out all day or staying over somewhere.
 
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I cancelled the Apple MagSafe pack because it’s not that great. With third party ones you can charge them with MagSafe, charge other items, and they have more capacity.

For example a comparable anker etc has 5000mAH. There’s even ones that are 1/3rd thicker that are 10,000mAH. That’s because they use silicon carbide instead.

So I’m going to wait for those packs to get updated for the air - or for reviewers to check if they fit.

I like the idea of 5000-10000 available in another pocket or bag near by, or at least charged and ready at home for that day you’ll be out all day or staying over somewhere.
Keep in mind, that the Apple pack is specifically made to control charging heat (just like the prior MagSafe Battery Pack).
 
Keep in mind, that the Apple pack is specifically made to control charging heat (just like the prior MagSafe Battery Pack).
That’s a good point. If it’s A problem I’ll get one of those too.

Also I thought it’s a good idea to push the phone without any extra battery to see how it works for me first to get a baseline.

I’m one of those guys in games that keeps reloading my ammo even when it’s not near empty :p. See myself doing that with battery too if I don’t control myself lol
 
I'm so unsure about the Air... I pre-ordered the 17 and think that as a long-time Pro user, I'll be happy with it. I can't imagine that the Air has the same battery life as the 16 Pro (which I own)... I just can't believe it. But I'm so curious to try it out and I really love the design of the Air. 😅 But for me, the difference is still a whopping 250€ compared to the base 17, which has better battery life and better cameras.
 
I'm so unsure about the Air... I pre-ordered the 17 and think that as a long-time Pro user, I'll be happy with it. I can't imagine that the Air has the same battery life as the 16 Pro (which I own)... I just can't believe it. But I'm so curious to try it out and I really love the design of the Air. 😅 But for me, the difference is still a whopping 250€ compared to the base 17, which has better battery life and better cameras.
Same boat here. Coming from 16PM. something different. Orderd Air. second thoughts. orderd 17Pro. I had no complaints about the size of the pro max but wanted something new. But battery life yeah. Camera's is th point for me. I think before the pre order day, they should allow reviews on YouTube so that we can decide better.
 
Same boat here. Coming from 16PM. something different. Orderd Air. second thoughts. orderd 17Pro. I had no complaints about the size of the pro max but wanted something new. But battery life yeah. Camera's is th point for me. I think before the pre order day, they should allow reviews on YouTube so that we can decide better.
I'm so unsure about the Air... I pre-ordered the 17 and think that as a long-time Pro user, I'll be happy with it. I can't imagine that the Air has the same battery life as the 16 Pro (which I own)... I just can't believe it. But I'm so curious to try it out and I really love the design of the Air. 😅 But for me, the difference is still a whopping 250€ compared to the base 17, which has better battery life and better cameras.
The battery on the air is more than likely based on average use, not pro level, not power users; why so much comparison of the air to a Pro or Pro Max is very unfair, and I believe Apple made the 16 Pro statement as a point of reference and that's all. These phones are intended for two completely different markets.
 
I cancelled the Apple MagSafe pack because it’s not that great. With third party ones you can charge them with MagSafe, charge other items, and they have more capacity.

For example a comparable anker etc has 5000mAH. There’s even ones that are 1/3rd thicker that are 10,000mAH. That’s because they use silicon carbide instead.

So I’m going to wait for those packs to get updated for the air - or for reviewers to check if they fit.

I like the idea of 5000-10000 available in another pocket or bag near by, or at least charged and ready at home for that day you’ll be out all day or staying over somewhere.
I figured there'll be other options available at some point, I really don't know why I made the purchase because I don't use them for existing devices, I've bought a few over the years and they are heavy as all hell for one thing and will weigh down any handbag or pocket.
 
Did you check your shipping date again? A lot of people in other threads are reporting their dates changing from the 25th to the 19th. Maybe if you hard close the app and reopen it?
Yup, checked this morning and still no change.

No text, no email, no app changes.

Going to email Timmy and team....
 
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For me I watch the odd video or YouTube randomly in the morning or through the day. Like if someone sends you something or you’re bored. It’s mainly that - and the odd loudspeaker calls.

For watching anything else of course you’d use AirPods.

Lol, I normally use iPad or TV. I rarely use the iPhone for watching. Even a Pro Max is too small.

So yeah, iPhone speakers are a non-issue for me as long as it's loud and clear enough for FaceTime, speakerphone, etc.
 
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The battery on the air is more than likely based on average use, not pro level, not power users; why so much comparison of the air to a Pro or Pro Max is very unfair, and I believe Apple made the 16 Pro statement as a point of reference and that's all. These phones are intended for two completely different markets.
I don't really agree. Only because I use my phone a lot don't means I need a Pro phone at all.
 
I've got all of next weekend set aside for it.

Nice! I’m off next weekend too.

Liking the Air’s box (and the others) 😀

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Might be an illusion but the shape of the Air box, does it look wider and flatter to anybody? Like not just the phone is thinner, but the box as well.
I guess those are the 17, and 17 pro’s. And then and Air. The Pro Max box will be even bigger than the airs.
 
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