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It's not really a contest.. It's that I doubt the veracity of the people who say they can "go naked" and have zero microscratches. It just doesn't add up. With my friends who claim scratch free, who hate screen protectors, if the phone is at least 6 months old I can show them hundreds of microscratches 100% of the time. So each to his own.. I have zero problem with people going unprotected - I have a problem with their "delusion" that their screens are completely microscratch-free. Not possible without protection. Believe what you want - type what you want here. But if I were in the room with you I could prove to you you're quite definitely NOT scratch free even on your 6/6+. Will the S series this year bring us scratch-free ability? Doubt it.. And I'll never try it again on any phone I own. But more power to ya !

No delusion here. 100% scratch free under any light or tilt.
 
Hopefully we all find out soon enough! Some nice sales going on.

I also spoke with Apple through chat and was told that they actually would work. Emailed Spigen, Rearth and iLoome and they all replied that they will work. I also seen a Tweet from Tech Armor claiming that it works as well.

Sounds terrible, but I don't really trust any of them have had way too many run ins with 'oh it'll definitely work' and have a thing definitely not work for me to just wait until I see it for myself. Hopefully it will, media blackout should be over early next week so one of the sites may mention it then in their reviews.
 
The big question is whether it will work EQUALLY WELL as with no protection or at least as well as with a plastic protector. If I have to press harder to get the same effect I won't purchase a glass protector.
 
The big question is whether it will work EQUALLY WELL as with no protection or at least as well as with a plastic protector. If I have to press harder to get the same effect I won't purchase a glass protector.


Even more so you have to wonder how those cases which completely enclose the phone will interfere with force touch.
 
Gotta wonder how you'd scratch a sapphire screen unless you rubbed up against a diamond.

I would love to know also.

Here's a pic. It's not terrible but it is noticeable.
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I would love to know also.

Here's a pic. It's not terrible but it is noticeable.
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Is that a scratch or a smudge? I get sometimes something that looks like a scratch on my glasses, but with the right treatment, it comes off. Otherwise even Windex won't take care of it.

It could be a strand of protein that will take an enzyme to remove it.
 
It's a scratch. I actually used a pinhead to see if it was removable, and you can feel the pinhead "drop" into the scratch when I run it over it. It's been there for the better part of two months now.

I think I need to come grab your wrist and drag you to the Apple Store to get your watch replaced. Couple of months, thats "giving in" - resignation

This is equivalent to, your lightsaber not being able to - slice & toast - bread. How is this scratch possible?
 
My sapphire AW is also marked albeit you can hardly see it. I did take it into the Apple Store however it was considered normal wear and tear and not a defect. Sapphire is not scratch proof and will mark. Similar thing happened with my Tag Carrera.
 
I think I need to come grab your wrist and drag you to the Apple Store to get your watch replaced. Couple of months, thats "giving in" - resignation

This is equivalent to, your lightsaber not being able to - slice & toast - bread. How is this scratch possible?

I know....

I can't figure what I might have touched that would cause that.

The only thing I can think of is maybe it is kind of a surface fissure versus just a simple scratch. It might actually be a combination of a fracture of the sapphire at the surface from an impact?
 
I'm very picky about keeping my iPhones / iPads / Mac Laptops clean scratch free and looking like new.

That said, I'm also one that buys it all for me to use and enjoy... Not to keep it nice so the person that buys it can enjoy it.

Nor do I baby it. You'd be surprised how just a little care and maintenance can keep it all like new. I don't buy snake oils like iKlear or special highly overpriced cleaners. I use a regular microfiber cloth moistened with water if needed. Keeping a fresh clean cloth in my laptop bag plus one in the center console of my car makes keeping things clean very easy.

I carry my iPhone in my front pants pocket all by itself. Doing so has produced excellent results. I've had every new iPhone since the original and not one is scratched. Nor do any have the highly accepted but totally mythical "micro scratches" when I read about micro scratches I laugh.

Yes indeed it appears that way. But fact is if you don't wash your microfiber cloth regularly it'll create this very distinctive pattern of "micro scratches." They won't usually rub off when you run your finger across them so the impatient user jumps to the conclusion they have a scratched display glass.

You should see the eyes light up of a user that hands me their phone so I can "see the proof of micro scratches" only to watch me wipe them away like magic :D
Lol. This magic cleaning is one of the most ridiculous things I've read here.

Nice troll.
 
Why is it hard for people to believe that some people do not get any scratches, seen or unseen? It's like you're trying to make yourself feel better by saying if you have them, everybody else does too! Also seems like a justification for you wrapping your phone in unnecessary materials.

I've seen micro scratches and deep scratches. A couple of my phones have had micro scratches. None have had deep scratches. My current phone does not have either. Why can't people just believe others these days? Why is it always a contest?
Probably because while technically not impossible, it runs counter to everything we've seen or would reasonably expect. Every buddies phone who claims it's not scratched, every Apple demo unit I've examined, our own personal devices, etc. After a while of having so many data points, it just seems so unlikely that reasonable people dismiss it.

I mean, sure it's possible unicorns exist. Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence after all.
 
No delusion here. 100% scratch free under any light or tilt.
I doubt that if you've been protectorless. I could show you the micro scratches. You just can't find them. You'd have to prove it to me. In 100% of the claims by my friends of no scratches I've been able to prove them wrong.

But maybe you're the luckiest or most OCD careful person on the planet. Never a single drop - lint free pockets.. Awesome! But I doubt it.

Of course it's silly for us to go in a circular argument - but from my experience with scores of phones over the years I can confidently say that 100% of people who go with no protector have scores to hundreds of microscratches on their screen. Can you see them daily at a quick glance?.. No. Are they there? - you betcha. I'll do a video one day soon to show folks how to find them. Your mind will be blown..
 
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Probably because while technically not impossible, it runs counter to everything we've seen or would reasonably expect. Every buddies phone who claims it's not scratched, every Apple demo unit I've examined, our own personal devices, etc. After a while of having so many data points, it just seems so unlikely that reasonable people dismiss it.

I mean, sure it's possible unicorns exist. Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence after all.
Exactly correct. People who "wish" to believe something have a very powerful drug at their command. This is why a person can take a placebo (sugar pill) in a medical trial and actually experience the healing effects of the drug they actually didn't take!! Power of the mind.

In defense of the "I have no scratches crowd" - micro scratches can't be seen looking straight on to your phone or in light bulb lit settings. Only in sunlight or bright fluorescent light. And at an angle. So - their daily experience is, for them, "scratch free"..

The better argument for them to make in this debate is not "I'm scratch free" but "if I have to use acrobatics to find the damn micro scratches.. who the hell cares!".. That's a fair argument.
 
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If micro scratches can appear on sapphire I guess the same for the glass screen. Bodyguardz are sending out emails saying their screen protector are ready to ship for the S.

It is not the glass that scratches, it is the oleophobic coating that they use.
 
Exactly correct. People who "wish" to believe something have a very powerful drug at their command. This is why a person can take a placebo (sugar pill) in a medical trial and actually experience the healing effects of the drug they actually didn't take!! Power of the mind.

In defense of the "I have no scratches crowd" - micro scratches can't be seen looking straight on to your phone or in light bulb lit settings. Only in sunlight or bright fluorescent light. And at an angle. So - their daily experience is, for them, "scratch free"..

The better argument for them to make in this debate is not "I'm scratch free" but "if I have to use acrobatics to find the damn micro scratches.. who the hell cares!".. That's a fair argument.

So true. I still stand behind my statement. 0 Scratches of any kind. :)

Anyways back to the topic on hand.
 
I ordered a screen protector from Ringke on Amazon because of a coupon, but I received a note in the box: "Please note that 1 Free HD complimentary screen protector included with your purchase may not be fully compatibility with the new iPhone 6s/6s Plus 3D touch sensitivity. Force and slide sensitivity may vary with the dimension of interaction with the screen."
 
So true. I still stand behind my statement. 0 Scratches of any kind. :)

Anyways back to the topic on hand.

If you are screen protector-less then I can guarantee that you have micro scratches. Absolutely guarantee it. UNLESS you have just taken the protector off within 1 day. OR you don't let the screen touch anything, which is near impossible.
 

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