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Imagine driving a GM Corvette C8 and it does not have a CarPlay 😐

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The funny thing is the dashboard screen is advertising Apple CarPlay.

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If you buy a C8 Z06 as pictured and are worried about CarPlay, you’ve got issues 🤣
 
I have a 2023 Accord Hybrid Touring on reserve and I hope that Honda enables this new CarPlay via a software update. It won't be as immersive as the picture Apple released but it has a 10.2" instrument cluster and a 12.3 center screen so it will have plenty of screen real estate to do some nice things.
 
Ford made the right call. Not sure what GM is thinking. GM is going to have a hard time selling cars now.
Indeed!
this guys gets it...
I'd love to see a 2019 Ford 350GT or 2020 Ford 500GT upgraded to the new CarPlay - at least the latter would have the driver console updated, the 350GT has an analog cluster but both are THE best products Ford has ever built!

That Mustang e is a joke.
Pretty stupid move by GM. But what to expect? That's GM for you. Maybe GM will come with its own CarPlay.
GM has made REALLY dumb moves.
Approval for a new funding deal for the union - Mary Barra lays off Unionized employees after Mexico plant is signed late 2022.
Still only 3 hummers built on the new electric platform and huge production set-backs way behind promised target timeline by Mary Barra.
Still totalling 12 products of production using the new electric platform ... pure joke.
But Mary Barra is LEADING the industry LMAO.
 
Definitely a stupid decision on GM's part, but is Carplay availability really a dealbreaker for your average new car buyer?

I think for many the fact that the option isn't there is the dealbreaker. After using it daily, it becomes such a convenience & many drivers become acclimated to that feature. Plus, the CarPlay OS is the same across all models, so there is no additional annoyances with dealing with various info setups & interfaces.
 
Who buys a car — a track-focused car — with a glorious flat crank V8 (and is likely the person’s second or third car in the garage) and is splitting hairs about CarPlay? It’s all about the drive.
So again ... why? I have a sports car ... and it came with CarPlay ... and it would be immensely annoying if it didn't have it. What does being "all about the drive" have to do with wanting CarPlay or not? You're being silly.
 
With many cars, you can just buy your own CarPlay deck, but some have such a proprietary stupid display that it's not replaceable by anything else, which is frustrating.
Yeah…I have seen the ones you can buy third party, but I don’t like that. I rather have it built into the car. I mean, I am already buying a pretty expensive thing, I don’t want to spend money on something else that I could just have built into the car.
 
and yes for someone like me, if I am looking for a new car and it doesnt have car play (daily driver etc) its a dealbreaker.
 
GM is making a gamble people don't buy a car based off the infotainment system. they're about to find out they're wrong. people want simplicity and ease. having to sync your iPhone via bluetooth and/or download some 3rd party app to talk to iOS's music app, navigation apps...it's not going to end well. CarPlay will be back in GM cars within 3 years.
yep… GM is known for bad decisions. A lot of what they choose to do is out greed and it usually bites them back. Why Kill Apple CarPlay and Android Auto? They want to focus on their own in-house solutions so they can monetize it.

GM also recently decided to discontinue their BOLT EV. Mind boggling that they would do so since it is their best selling EV. History repeats itself they killed their original EV some 25 years ago when they were ahead of everyone else in the field. They did so out of greed so they could focus on big (more profitable) SUV/PU gas guzzlers instead. They are doing it again by discontinuing the BOLT. But now they want to focus on building big electric SUVs/PUs because they are more ”profitable”. By doing so they are giving up on the small car EV market that is likely going to see the biggest and fastest growth. I guess GM will give Tesla, Hyundai/Kia and the rest of the auto industry free reign in the car EV space. As far as big trucks & SUVs go IDK why anyone would want to buy a GM product. If you want something like that buy a Toyota or Ford it will at least last.
 
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As long as the stock infotainment system has everything I need, I don't care about CarPlay/Android Auto.

The default infotainment in my Tesla gives me:

Apple Music
YouTube Music (via Bluetooth)
Navigation with integrated charging stops
Contacts
Hands-free text messaging
Calendar integration

And when I'm parked (like when I'm waiting for the kids in carpool), I can watch Disney Plus, YouTube, Plex, etc., on the big screen (also handy when charging on long trips).

If GM or whatever other company can give me all that, I'd probably be fine with their implementation.

Now in my old 2017 Audi A4, CarPlay was a must because the default infotainment/navigation was absolute TRASH.
And you are willing to pay monthly for that? When it’s already included for free with your phone?
 
So again ... why? I have a sports car ... and it came with CarPlay ... and it would be immensely annoying if it didn't have it. What does being "all about the drive" have to do with wanting CarPlay or not? You're being silly.
For most people that are in the market for a $100,000+ high performance supercar, CarPlay is not a make or break feature.
 
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CarPlay is important, but I hope the automaker can still customize the experience in CarPlay 2. That could be custom apps for the car and branded or unique dashboard widgets. Similar to what Apple does with Nike. The great thing about this approach is those car features keep working when you’re not in the car. Maybe you want to plan a Ford managed charger network on a long trip for instance. I doubt Apple considers this a profit center, so certain types of content might be considered non-platform content and avoid IAP similar to buying content for an Oculus Headset or Xbox on the iPhone.
 
Ford has really been appealing to me since their Great Recession revamp. They got back on their feet by themselves and have done a really good job with things like the Mustang redesign and now calls like this.

Carmakers suck at software. CarPlay is just a necessity now.
 
I used to believe that I would never buy a car if it didn't have Carplay. In fact, it's one of the reasons I've never considered a Tesla.

However: I was recently in the market for a nice plug-in hybrid for my wife. We ultimately landed on a Volvo XC60 Recharge due to a number of reasons.

It has Carplay... but it ALSO has an excellent, built-in Google system. The Google system is deeply integrated into EVERYTHING about the car. For instance you can "Hey Google" to: turn on the cabin lights, change the cabin temperature, turn on/off heated seats and stearing wheels, etc. etc. Since our whole smart home is run using Google - this is all completely natural to us (and we can control our house using Hey Google in our car too).

In addition, Google Maps is completely built into the way the car operates. The map in the main/driver's instrument panel (which takes up about half of that space) is Google Maps, and the directions in the heads up display are run by Google maps.

BUT IT GOES EVEN FURTHER: Google Maps is actually integrated into how the hybrid-electric system operates. When you put in a destination, if it's further away than your available battery mileage Google Maps _optimizes the use of the battery along your route to give you the very best gas mileage_. For instance, it know where there are street lights and where there are uphill sections and it will SAVE BATTERY IN ORDER TO USE IT TO START FROM A STOP AND GO UP HILLS since the electric motor is more efficient at that. It optimizes it to the point where you will run out of battery _just_ as you roll into the parking lot of your destination.

Also: it has the ability to load apps from the Google App store and comes with Spotify pre-loaded.

ALSO: everything about what apps are loaded and even what Spotify and Google Account are active is tied to your key... so the entire infotainment system remembers who you are, what your preferences are and changes them back and forth for each driver.

What does this all mean?

It means that we _never_ use Carplay. For us, Google Maps and Spotify were 95% of what we were using CarPlay for in the first place... and having excellent, first class support for those has obviated our need for Carplay.

I honestly never thought I would type the above words... but here I am.
 
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I honestly haven't had a positive experience with CarPlay (especially wireless car play). iOS has been so buggy the past few years, I can't tell which problems are from Apple and which problems are from my vehicle. But its turned me off of using it for its current capabilities, let alone letting it take control of the entire dashboard.
It likes to occasionally not start CarPlay when we plug the iPhone in. And no amount of restarts of anything fixes it. It just decides to work again the next time we start the car further in the future. Android Auto has never had that issue.
 
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