Back in the day I used to dread Ford sync with Microsoft software in their cars. I would avoid getting fords on my rentals.
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Ford Plans to Stick With CarPlay as GM Moves to Phase Out Support
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Why would GM do this? Because Google convinced their bean counters. I wouldn't be surprised if Google is paying GM to build their infotainment software.
Right now it's a race to the bottom. And with the financial system in slowly imploding, we will see weirder and weirder decisions come out of corporations.
Right now it's a race to the bottom. And with the financial system in slowly imploding, we will see weirder and weirder decisions come out of corporations.
In 5 years of CarPlay use, the only times I've ever had CarPlay issues, it turned out to be the cable's fault - the Apple cable always worked - but with third party cable, make sure it's MFI certified.
You're not basing any of this on anything except the fact that you're a car enthusiast. I'm a car enthusiast as well and I disagree with you. You're saying people that want CarPlay in their expensive car have issues. That sounds more like a you problem. Stop projecting.
I won't buy GM then, that's how much I've become dependent on CarPlay. What a horrible move. Not a bud light move, but pretty bad.
There are probably at least a dozen iPhones in my extended family and none of those family members ever complain about iOS being buggy, not a one. iOS 16.4.1(a) on my iPhone 13 is rock solid. So I really question your assertion about ‘the past few years’. Perhaps the problem is with you and not iOS.
I had same issue initially when I started using a third party cable, dealer told me to use original apple cable. Never an issue after.
Wireless CarPlay works great in my Ford and GM vehicles. This is just stupid (and greedy) by GM. They want those subscriptions for connected vehicles, NAV, etc. You don’t need that with your phone well integrated into the vehicle. The phone is the center of most peoples lives these days, especially the younger generation. Sure, make your car incompatible with the 18-40 yr-olds Favorite obsession. #fail
General Motors is shooting themselves in the foot by removing Apple CarPlay.
It’s like they used 2001 clip art icons with inconsistent sizing. Talk about embarrassing.
One day? Homie, have you heard of a lease?
GM's UI when it comes to their dashboards and entertainment are so ugly - can't imagine what they will barf out on their own.
I guess many here want CarPlay because they don’t want to be locked into an obsolete proprietary entertainment and navigation system. That‘s why I wished my 2016 Audi had CarPlay: my navigation system is definitely old school, I refused to pay 300€ for the map updates and it lacks detailed traffic information.
But what GM is going for seems to be Android Automotive, the same system used in recent Volvos (and other European manufacturers). Since it offers a seamless experience with apps like Waze and Spotify, and integrates with the car to take into account info such as the remaining range and precondition the battery for charging, the case for CarPlay is becoming more difficult to make.
But CarPlay can be offered on Android Automotive systems (as is the case with Volvo), so I am pretty sure GM can easily reverse their decision if they realise it hurts their sale.
We are in active search for a used car. There are 2 requirements: 4 door sedan & Apple Car Play.
Of course an American automobile was never on our list of manufacturers. We’re looking for reliability instead.
Of course an American automobile was never on our list of manufacturers. We’re looking for reliability instead.
I think that a majority of car purchasers will find non CarPlay support a detractor from purchasing the vehicle they prefer and will Bluetooth connect iPhones to manufacturers’ propriety infotainment systems. I had aftermarket Alpine (mostly) and one Pioneer head units with CarPlay integration installed in my previous Mazdas excluding my current MX-5 (Miata), however knowing CarPlay retrofitting was coming to my current generation waited to upgrade. Interesting how technology pushes evolution forward and other segments of the human race turn to regression.
Yep. A lot of people don't seem to grasp this (probably most of them don't own a Tesla).
The rest of the auto-makers have done a terrible to just mediocre job at best with infotainment systems. "Ford Sync" has been categorically poor. GM kept doing different things with different product lines, like Cadillac's "Cue" (which ran Linux, interestingly). BMW has iDrive, which seems to get a revision almost annually, with no ability to upgrade after the fact. Many of them really have nothing but a touchscreen that can use proprietary GPS maps you pay hundreds of dollars each time you need to upgrade them, along with the basics to use a radio and play MP3s from a USB stick.
Tesla was the one company who thought it all through and made a fully functional touchscreen system. There wasn't the need to hide/cover up the original menu system with Apple CarPlay taking it over. It might not have the ability to load apps to add features to it. But really, Tesla added most of the important stuff over time (from Spotify to Apple Music to Netflix) and they have a functional Chromium-based web browser too.
About the *only* time I wish I had CarPlay is to make it easy to run Waze as my navigation system. Tesla's built-in nav system is excellent and has all the integration for knowing where chargers are and even how many supercharger stalls are used vs. empty at a site. But Waze tells you where people marked police activity and other more interactive info like that.
The only one that didn’t get bailed out… making smart choices for consumers..weird
Isn't what Tesla does similar to what Apple does? They want to control the entire experience, hardware and software. The difference is that automobiles aren't an information product (like a computer or smartphone). They're essential like a mobile residence. Imagine buying a house where you were forced to use only builder-chosen appliances. But like Apple, Tesla has managed to create a powerful brand image that allows them to do just that. At this point, GM doesn't have that vaunted a brand image.
I really want to say it is 100% your car as I have been using car play since about 2017 across 4 different cars. My VW, Hyundai, Subaru and now my jeep and it has almost always worked fine. There has been a few times where the infotainment system locked up and needed a reboot as well as sometimes with the phone needing a reboot. Hell I even bought a 3rd party wireless car play adapter and it works great and is the best thing ever.
Until something better come out I would never buy a car thar didn’t support CarPlay. It has maps that are always updated and des require $$$ or time to update. Has all my music on it, plus anything I want to stream and has Siri, which some may say is a con, but I have no issues asking it for directions, playing music or calling/texting someone. All while the phone is in my pocket.
I don't bother about carplay so never bothered to pay to "activate" it in my BMW (models came out a year late had it without extra cost!
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But I know that a lot of people prefer to use Carplay. So, in a country like US where most smartphone users own an iPhone, not offering carplay is like playing with fire. Most of their sales are in US and China. Google services are not available in China.
)But I know that a lot of people prefer to use Carplay. So, in a country like US where most smartphone users own an iPhone, not offering carplay is like playing with fire. Most of their sales are in US and China. Google services are not available in China.
Ford is losing $ on EV they make. Tesla is making a profit off of every EV they make.