This is just for cars running Android Automotive. They are not going to do firmware updates on older cars.
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Ford Plans to Stick With CarPlay as GM Moves to Phase Out Support
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I'm not a Ford guy, def GM guy, but at least this guy "gets it". Unlike GM's clueless managers.
Or they just know how to make good business decisions 🤷♂️
GM is going to loose a lot more over it. Also it is just not car play GM is killing. They are also killing android auto. Basically affecting 100% of their customers.
Car play/ android are quickly becoming the deal sealers. I will admit I was looking at GMs new EVs until I saw that announcement. My reasoning for tossing them out is I can just as easily get all the same features and wants plus car play with other manufacturers.
GM might not lose many of their current customers over it but they are going to struggle with conquest from other manufacturers. This on top of they are going to cause a lot of people to look around.
Ford Mach E for example was a massive conquest car as they were getting near 70% of the buyers were from people replacing another manufacturers car and not a ford. That is insane numbers.
Car play/ android are quickly becoming the deal sealers. I will admit I was looking at GMs new EVs until I saw that announcement. My reasoning for tossing them out is I can just as easily get all the same features and wants plus car play with other manufacturers.
GM might not lose many of their current customers over it but they are going to struggle with conquest from other manufacturers. This on top of they are going to cause a lot of people to look around.
Ford Mach E for example was a massive conquest car as they were getting near 70% of the buyers were from people replacing another manufacturers car and not a ford. That is insane numbers.
Ok now show where Tesla's loss of market share is only because of increased capacity of other OEMs. Tesla has cut the price of the Model Y six times for a total of 20%. Ford has the cut price of the Mach-E twice for a total of 7.8%. Yes, Tesla cutting prices has forced other automakers to do the same thing, but the fact that the difference in cuts is so large speaks to a desirability issue for Tesla. And now Musk is talking about making up the lost profit with in-vehicle software and services. Because if there's one thing customers love, it's being nickel and dimed with expensive subscriptions.
I think GM's decision isn't so bad if Google's infotainment system for future GM EV's support the ability to control music and podcast playback on an iPhone directly from the app. You still would have access to Google's excellent Google Maps.
This makes GM's decision to roll their own, seem undeniably bone-headed.
Rolling your own is totally fine. But making it the only option seems short-sighted. Make your solution the default, but allow CarPlay and AndroidPlay users the option to continue using this interfaces. If you believe in your offering so strongly, it will win users over. Clearly, they don't - hence the forcing their option on their users. I'm not smart but this doesn't seem a smart move. I could be wrong. We'll have to wait and see.
Rolling your own is totally fine. But making it the only option seems short-sighted. Make your solution the default, but allow CarPlay and AndroidPlay users the option to continue using this interfaces. If you believe in your offering so strongly, it will win users over. Clearly, they don't - hence the forcing their option on their users. I'm not smart but this doesn't seem a smart move. I could be wrong. We'll have to wait and see.
I disagree whole heartedly. GM isn’t going to lose staggering numbers because they don’t offer car play or android auto. GM offers features that other manufactures don’t. I had a Serria 1500 loaded and it had a HUD, screen rear view mirror, etc. my 2021 F250 loaded doesn’t have any of those. GM offers meany premium features on their vehicles that people want and will capture new buyers.
Your Mach e comparison is apples and oranges. Mach E numbers captured more new buyers because of the EV push and that was one of the few options that wasn’t a poorly made Tesla.
Legacy, car manufacturers, such as GM need to move quickly and provide the best service as possible. With them taking off CarPlay and android auto, they are making a massive mistake. Not only are they not moving quickly enough. They are withdrawing important and wanted services that their cars have.
Good luck GM because your sales are going to plummet
Good luck GM because your sales are going to plummet
Seems to depend on car for me. Which is weird since you would think it would be the same. In some cars, it's been really good. But, in some others I have tried it's been so so. In my wife's Volvo, it's been great. Now if I wish Tesla would get this.
I'm a current GM owner (third time for me), but it may just be my last if I have to be locked into their in-car infotainment solution. I like Apple CarPlay, and while it's not perfect, it just works.
I don't know what the hell Mary Barra and the Beancounters are doing, but they are certainly going to cost themselves quite a decent percentage of sales in the long run.
I don't know what the hell Mary Barra and the Beancounters are doing, but they are certainly going to cost themselves quite a decent percentage of sales in the long run.
I don’t think I’ve ever had a single problem or glitch using CarPlay. It’s been flawless for me.
Well, the reason I care, in this day and age of connected cars, is because the Uconnect sys in my 2012 Charger works horribly with my phone now. It was freakin' awesome back in the day. But today, with no more OEM support, and the fact that I'm 4 phones and a million iOSs away from when Uconnect was new?
It's practically useless. Voice calling, dead. "iPod music" mode, dead.
All it does is still see my contact list for manual selection for calls. And Bluetooth music connectivity. That's it.
And as of the last iOS update, even that Bluetooth connection is very flakey, and sometimes requires a car reboot to work.
An ACP or AA setup should update dynamically with other mobile device updates and have a much longer shelf life. Especially since we are keeping cars so much longer (way longer than phones).
Typically, and tragically, as with past decisions like this, they're probably spending MORE beans than if they changed nothing.
I mean, that's basically what leases and car payments are. But I get what you are saying.
Whoa that’s cool. The only other manufacturer that I know of that does that is Porsche. I have an efriend that was showing me pics of his 911 T being built. Pretty cool.
As for Apple CarPlay, absolutely my next car must have it. I have an older car that doesn’t have it but the few times I’ve rented a car with one I absolutely loved using it.
You forget to mention an internet browser, arcade games, and a bunch of other choices for streaming content.
When I first bought my Tesla, I thought I would miss CarPlay, but not at all. Nice to not need to plug in a phone to get things working. The navigation with the ability to pan, pinch zoom and rotate just like an iPad is much nicer than the CarPlay screen.
I think the reason is, if my Tesla did have CarPlay, I wouldn't use it anyway. Sure CarPlay was great in my Chevy Bolt, but there is no use for it the Tesla.
Tesla still posting record deliveries, are they not? https://electrek.co/2023/04/02/tesla-tsla-confirms-q1-2023-record-deliveries-beats-expectations/
What happens when some new app becomes available? You will be at GM’s mercy whether or not you can use it. The advantage of CarPlay is that it offers a way for app developers to get onto a car’s interface. GM will now become the gatekeeper. Are they going to create a platform for independent developers or will it requires millions to get your icon on GM’s dashboard?
GM is looking to monetize the interface. That is all. Even Tesla’s navigation app is lacking.
GM is looking to monetize the interface. That is all. Even Tesla’s navigation app is lacking.