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Former Apple Employees on Eddy Cue: Siri and Eddy Were 'A Bad Fit' and He is 'Always Doing Too Many Things'
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"Hey Eddy, I was thinking we could make Siri d--"
"HEY SIRI PLAY SOME SPICY SALSA"
"...never mind"
That's hilarious.
"...the two companies clashed so much about decisions over how Beats Music would transition into Apple Music, "there were almost literally fistfights over design aspects, features, aesthetics," one person said. "They all hated each other."
HaHaHa! Isn't this the way most corporate mergers/acquisitions become?
HaHaHa! Isn't this the way most corporate mergers/acquisitions become?
Apple Music player UI change ... that was Ive in iOS7.
Proof of your claim about "every software he's been in charge of has languished"?
If you come with Siri ... sorry there was other infighting before he was granted it and it was DUMB on Cook's part to grant Siri to a Media lead not the software lead.
Source: https://www.theinformation.com/arti...ndZUB0QxMD02QzRVJuh90&unlock=09c7b4c206903bb9
I figure if you're driving the travel and route of the road is most important at a glance, while Siri or Maps will announce the road as it comes up. This is the same way Maps has worked for decades ... long before smartphones and even used in Rally Car when you have a 'navigator' telling you the condition of the road, traffic, direction you're going, which turn (on/off ramp), lights, merging, accidents etc ... the street is announced shortly before you need to make a turn. ??
As a pedestrian yeah I can understand what you mean ... but while driving, I have to get to point A ... if point B is before point C and the street name is useful if I know the area sure. If I don't ... I could care less until I need it. But that's just me.
You claim Apple Maps issue you're facing is a "simple fix" if it was you'd have fixed it. Obviously it's not a simple fix as a change will affect everyone.
BTW, under Cue ... services revenue has thrived. Apple's WebStore has continually evolved and looking top notch, purchasing and shipment information updated timely ... music, TV, Movies content has NEVER been the issue at iTunes/Apple ... displaying the content in iTunes yeah needs major overhaul.
You're putting a LOT of blame and frustration to the one guy that's got a LOT RIGHT at Apple over a VERY long time and has delivered on his expertise ... and has been handed a BUM role of leading Siri ... a jackass move by Cook because Cook rid Apple of Forstall (whom yeah Siri had issues as well).
Siri's issue was Apple's original vision to be 'The Navigator' yet needed the right direction to get it there. Forstall's leadership got it there. But 'The Navigator' was a very old concept and didn't have real world vision for the future. After Jobs died after it was delivered all the BS infighting vs actually WORKING as an entire TEAM was the REAL issue.
Trust me ... just cause they hired John Giannandrea as AI lead for Siri ... it's going to take a LONG time for Siri to get modern. I don't see any improvements before December 2018 and nothing really Awe-inspiring until late 2019. There is a TEAM of engineers to lead and a LOT to replace and minds to change and get the job done.
You're placing 1 person as the fault for things you don't like without any research to really backup your claim. See I've done mine with Siri but everyone is going to point to Cue as the issue for Siri. Yet the truth is VERY different.
I blame media (macrumors, the verge, 9to5Mac, etc for not updating their one off posts when leadership changes about previous process and background).
Cue has some serious fashion no-no's (Bright Blue & Pink shirts at WWDC, trust me you'll miss them when he's gone), and did he's own impersonation of Balmer's monkey dance lol ... but at least he's not making DUMB ass claims like "Cant' Innovate Anymore my Ass" which sounds cool and gets fans to side with him in rebellion to a quote the company's co-founder stated when Apple really was lacking in innovative products. Yet 5yrs after firing off the tip of his tongue, Phil Schiller is STILL eating those words on the Mac Pro!! No Innovation!
Would I buy the Mac Pro 2013 ... hell yes because I love the design and idea and it's more than powerful enough for my needs ... and it reminds me of the Cube which I see one in grey market for sale
but it was naive innovation by Apple. Cue hasn't stated idiocy publicly like that. Cue rose to the top based on his SKILLS not his dumb new fan popularity and riding coat tales off greatness before him like I see Federighi doing. The benefits to macOS seems to pale in comparison to major underpinning updates made by former OSX leads.[doublepost=1536168428][/doublepost]
Sounds VERY like what Jobs did to Apple when creating the Macintosh team. Pirates yarrr!
And look at Beats now ... an undeniable global brand and the very FIRST decent headphone product youth today get ... whether or not their Apple product brand users ... they mostly end up being so soon enough. Beats was not just about the music product/services ... it was for the brand and negotiation expertise in the music and as we're seeing now the TV streaming industry with new shows from Apple!
Why is this still so obvious yet so hard to understand by so many forum members and yet Beats so hated still? You better believe AirPods and the upcoming high-end audio headset product by Apple was learned from the Beats team expertise.
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Eddy Cue is Apple's next CEO. Once they get rid of Cook who has simply skated on Steve's legacy. Eddy will take Apple in directions we'd never dream of.
BINGO!
It's actually a very GOOD thing Apple Maps was ordered improvement because Cue got spooked by an internet blog post! Executive usually are very over confident and due to that arrogant to seeing needs for improvement ('cue' Cook for not updating Mac mini STILL ... 12K post on a thread here alone, far too many articles to mention).
I completely agree Cue should have never had Siri in the first place. Siri is more software based in terms of an AI so Federighi should have had it back in 2012 when Cook rid Apple of Forstall ... not Cue. To me that's poor executive management in failing to understand the nature of the service/product they offer, failing to understand the correct team lead to have responsibility, and failure to understand the market.
“Apple tries to do too much with too few people,”
Apple is a bilion dollar company , but when you look at there produc releaces past few years you think WTF is going on
This is my feeling for years now , you feel it very well in the computer side of apple.
OSX apple software department , they scrap great software like aperture , i photo ... releases/ updates of final-cut pro are to long apart .... apple software is what makes them different from Windows competitors that make beautiful stuff now days .
Then on the hardware side windows is beating apple , mac mini ,mac pro ,mac-book air ect how many years waiting for a simple update. and competitors do deliver. what apple will not ...
Imacs used to have cutting edge hardware .... well we are still waiting in a regular I7 6 core imac with vega ....
when in intel land I9 8 core intel is already hitting the street .
lots of people want a big IPOD . you see in the forums how many people are modding old ipods ? there is a market but apple does not sell it .
Imac birthday has come and gone what did we see? nothing WTF apple
and what we do get? a speakers thats dubble D and does not work with the important apps.
A 5K imac ... that does not support a second screen K5 screen . profs use 2 screens .
all this stuff apple could have made and done it would have made them a lot more revenue but they did not do it because well they dont have the people to do it profits are sky high... your a bilion dollar company you could easy hire more people to do the work .
Apple is a bilion dollar company , but when you look at there produc releaces past few years you think WTF is going on
This is my feeling for years now , you feel it very well in the computer side of apple.
OSX apple software department , they scrap great software like aperture , i photo ... releases/ updates of final-cut pro are to long apart .... apple software is what makes them different from Windows competitors that make beautiful stuff now days .
Then on the hardware side windows is beating apple , mac mini ,mac pro ,mac-book air ect how many years waiting for a simple update. and competitors do deliver. what apple will not ...
Imacs used to have cutting edge hardware .... well we are still waiting in a regular I7 6 core imac with vega ....
when in intel land I9 8 core intel is already hitting the street .
lots of people want a big IPOD . you see in the forums how many people are modding old ipods ? there is a market but apple does not sell it .
Imac birthday has come and gone what did we see? nothing WTF apple
and what we do get? a speakers thats dubble D and does not work with the important apps.
A 5K imac ... that does not support a second screen K5 screen . profs use 2 screens .
all this stuff apple could have made and done it would have made them a lot more revenue but they did not do it because well they dont have the people to do it profits are sky high... your a bilion dollar company you could easy hire more people to do the work .
Indeed. Fixed iSync and MobileMe ... but I still would love to have an email address "holla@me.com" @Hater
What I’ve seen of Eddy Cue reminds me of several people I’ve known over the years who were effectively checked out of a company but they were shuffled around because they knew somebody in management who liked them.
Most of the people I know who fit that description eventually landed in a “Business Development” position, which, for the companies I’ve worked for, at least, is a job that entails calling and visiting existing and prospective clients, taking them out to lunch, kissing their ass, and basically spending the company’s money in droves in the hopes that it will result in a net gain for the company.
In the case of every person I’ve ever known who’s had a “Business Development” job, they had that job for no more than two years before somebody higher up finally realized that the person wasn’t pulling their own weight and they were subsequently let go.
Eddy’s been cruising in “Business Development” mode at Apple for a while now, I think. If somebody else on the Executive Team wakes up, realizes that, and cares to do anything about it, he will probably be shown the door so he can focus his time and energy on other things he really wants to do.
Most of the people I know who fit that description eventually landed in a “Business Development” position, which, for the companies I’ve worked for, at least, is a job that entails calling and visiting existing and prospective clients, taking them out to lunch, kissing their ass, and basically spending the company’s money in droves in the hopes that it will result in a net gain for the company.
In the case of every person I’ve ever known who’s had a “Business Development” job, they had that job for no more than two years before somebody higher up finally realized that the person wasn’t pulling their own weight and they were subsequently let go.
Eddy’s been cruising in “Business Development” mode at Apple for a while now, I think. If somebody else on the Executive Team wakes up, realizes that, and cares to do anything about it, he will probably be shown the door so he can focus his time and energy on other things he really wants to do.
Now ... I'm ... scared. That really scare's me. Cue is good and all and is loyal to Apple ... but don't be surprised to find some serious hate mail in your forum inbox from those here that complete can't stand the sight of Cue. Just look at all the comments on any thread about Eddie Cue here and abroad.
Hell we should make an internet rumour lol.
Apple seems to do more and more half-assed, language support other than "English" is abysmal, freaking every language should have predictive texting by now and auto detect what language it is. They launch one service after another that is either US only and sometimes US only and then only in four places.
Oh, you've worked there?
Doesn't matter anyway. Apple's management is doing a fantastic job and if it's because of or in spite of Cue, I don't care. Apple doesn't have a management problem. They are among the best.
That's what happens when you have highly paid blasé execs with a guaranteed seat for life, or what looks like it. Apple sure loves its execs !
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I suspect the main issue is that Cue’s portfolio is too big and too wide ranging.
Yes, we know he’s in charge of Maps and iTunes etc but I believe he’s in charge of Apple’s application software too.
I wonder if Apple is better off splitting the role into paid content services (iTunes, music, movies) and software services (iCloud, apps, maps etc)?
Yes, we know he’s in charge of Maps and iTunes etc but I believe he’s in charge of Apple’s application software too.
I wonder if Apple is better off splitting the role into paid content services (iTunes, music, movies) and software services (iCloud, apps, maps etc)?
Anything related to Cue in current times (and a few years ago) seems to be lagging, lacking or in the best case cruising just OK.
But if you look at past Cue achievements from the 2000s you do find great work and lots of achievements.
Did he got old and rich and just doesn't care? He is overstretched? Who knows.
But if you look at past Cue achievements from the 2000s you do find great work and lots of achievements.
Did he got old and rich and just doesn't care? He is overstretched? Who knows.
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough. I meant visually looking at the Apple maps. There isn't enough visual information such as street names to orient yourself, unlike Google Maps. This I believe is a design issue that Eddie would be in charge of that might not be very simple, but definitely affordable in relation to how much it would aid the customer experience.
With no disrespect, no research is needed for the simple claims that I make. Simply turn on your phone and discover that the music player interface is less intuitive and slower to navigate than before the time that Eddie Cue was managing that department. Even with all great new features that the Apple maps upcoming updates are promising that Eddie is in change of, the street name issue has not been addressed, and it's a central component of a map. These are just a couple examples that I'm posting here. After research on past posts to extensively list out problems that cropped up in a department after Eddie was put in charge, I don't feel the need to rehash what everyone else here doesn't give a **** about.
No he didn't. MobileMe was a failure by many aspects. Even Steve Jobs said so and he's only apologized for a handful of things.
"During the iCloud introduction, Steve Jobs mentioned MobileMe, saying it wasn’t Apple’s finest hour." Source: (which also highlights many of MobileMe's major shortcomings) https://512pixels.net/2018/07/mobilemes-legacy/
Eddie fixed many things. Its a matter of fact not opinion.
https://www.engadget.com/2014/03/17/how-eddy-cue-won-over-steve-jobs-when-jobs-said-no-to-an-apple/
While I upvoted you, how much does iTunes for the desktop even matter anymore? The vast majority backup to iCloud Backup or dont even bother to backup their iPhones/iPads, and they have no use for the desktop client when all the main iTunes desktop functions are on the iPhone/iPad.
iTunes is a relic of another era and it's going to the way of the dodo bird.
p.s. I still use iTunes desktop...