Uh thats nuts, sorry. iTunes is still a media manager and people care more about their media more than pretty much anything else. There are many many people who have what are referred to as "music libraries" that rely on iTunes.
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Former Apple Employees on Eddy Cue: Siri and Eddy Were 'A Bad Fit' and He is 'Always Doing Too Many Things'
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You’re joking right? Are you seriously implying that Jobs surrounded himself with clowns that were simple Yes-men?
You clearly have no clue about Steve Jobs or how he managed people then.
LOL! I Love your "Vast Majority" Comment - If you would like to share where you got these statistics from, I am sure everyone here would be fascinated to read them.
Yes, nerds like us on these forums. Only nerds like us bother with video libraries, everyone streams from the cloud and buys/rents from the cloud.
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I just finished a huge study that will be published shortly
Well then I will rephrase, of the 30 technical illiterate people for whom I provide tech support none bother to use iTunes desktop anymore with their iPhones/iPads. As I just wrote, they all rent/buy from cloud service providers, and use cloud backup services. it honestly is a LOT less work to get a spotify/apple music/pandora/netflix/amazon prime subscription.
iTunes desktop was always a pain in butt, so why bother using it when much better options exist for the non media hoarding nerd types (like myself).
p.s. I am not defending the mess of itunes desktop. It just is a sign of the times, this old way of self managing media are not of great interest to apple and MS (MS ditched their media server software). I suspect it just was too complicated to make it easy for most user. I've been doing it for many years and it is always a lot of work to keep it well setup, though Plex has been a great improvement.
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OK, so to make this clear, these 30 people who are wealthy enough to hire your services, or are Family / Friends, who you give your services to for free, are your vast majority.I just finished a huge study that will be published shortly
Well then I will rephrase, of the 30 technical illiterate people for whom I provide tech support none bother to use iTunes desktop anymore with their iPhones/iPads. As I just wrote, they all rent/buy from cloud service providers, and use cloud backup services.
Maybe your sample IS truly accurate regarding the vast majority of users - but stating that it IS accurate, based on 30 people is, I humbly tell you, erroneous statistically.
Next time try "Everyone I know or work for" This would be a much more accurate statement. Just sayin'
Ok, sorry for the incorrect statistical claims. I am sure no one in these forums has made generalizations before
In any case, I believe further evidence is seen in how little apple and MS are developing their media client software (and/or abandoning it). Unless you think they dont have tracking statistics that guides their software development focus needs?
Yeah, always clarify when there's more than one possible target: "Following Jobs' death in the fall of 2011,..."
Unless you're writing the script for Airplane.
It always seems to me he is out of place. Like he belongs on a used car showroom somewhere. Belly hanging out and wearing the wrong sized shirts that don’t do him justice. Then, he speaks and it doesn’t make sense. His words don’t captivate an audience. He wants people to applaud him, but he seems like everything he touches turns to crap. I have never met the man, and these are all just impressions from seeing him mostly in the Apple keynotes. However, each time I read something about him, my disdain for him grows. I think Apple’s executives are a pot luck.
Ive should be under an innovator (missing executive at a tech company).
Cook should be the COO, as he is overextended as CEO and has no innovator/leadership sense to take Apple to a better direction.
Angela is probably the best fit. When she was with Burberry she gave a great interview that made me think she knows how to use technology to sell. I don’t know that any of what she was doing there has translated over to Apple. It should, and she is the only executive that could actually have a vision for Apple.
Craig seems like a great guy and best fit to run MacOS.
They fired the guy Forstall who should be in charge of iOS. He was ultimately, I think, supposed to be the successor to the thrown after Cook made the transition and gave Apple a good five to ten years of stability. He was the innovative thinker. He was the one that had the insights to lead Apple down magical paths and great products. From what I have read and heard, he was doomed the day Jobs died. Cook knew he was a threat to Cook’s leadership, so Cook fires him. And that was the end of Apple as an innovative tech company.
Apple should have been buying great companies cheap five to seven years ago like Netflix and DeopBox. Think how big Apple would be if it had an innovator on deck and in charge of the new products, with Ive underneath designing, and purchased lots of startups that make great technology and used the talent and IP to lead into the future.
Now, let’s all watch Amazon be the company to reach and stay on top. More innovators in their warehouses than anywhere in Apple.
If I had the CEO job at Apple, Iwould lead with new innovation that makes the AppleWatch look like a joke. And Netflix would have been integrated perfectly into AppleTV. DropBox would be iCloud and actually work. I would have augmented reality glasses on deck. Probably buy Tesla and use battery manufacturing for iPhones and use capacitors and force my hand on Trump/Government to make roads smart car ready by building out smart car ready roads with electric and sensing features built in. Cars don’t need huge batteries. The roads should have the power in them. There should be a secure network providing information of where all vehicles are on all roads. There should be sensors all over the roads that interact with cars/trucks and that would allow true autonomous transportation that could be accident free.
Why doesn’t Cue think of any of this? Oh he is overloaded telling people he is Apple and he doesn’t have to do this or wear that as it isn’t Apple culture.
Ive should be under an innovator (missing executive at a tech company).
Cook should be the COO, as he is overextended as CEO and has no innovator/leadership sense to take Apple to a better direction.
Angela is probably the best fit. When she was with Burberry she gave a great interview that made me think she knows how to use technology to sell. I don’t know that any of what she was doing there has translated over to Apple. It should, and she is the only executive that could actually have a vision for Apple.
Craig seems like a great guy and best fit to run MacOS.
They fired the guy Forstall who should be in charge of iOS. He was ultimately, I think, supposed to be the successor to the thrown after Cook made the transition and gave Apple a good five to ten years of stability. He was the innovative thinker. He was the one that had the insights to lead Apple down magical paths and great products. From what I have read and heard, he was doomed the day Jobs died. Cook knew he was a threat to Cook’s leadership, so Cook fires him. And that was the end of Apple as an innovative tech company.
Apple should have been buying great companies cheap five to seven years ago like Netflix and DeopBox. Think how big Apple would be if it had an innovator on deck and in charge of the new products, with Ive underneath designing, and purchased lots of startups that make great technology and used the talent and IP to lead into the future.
Now, let’s all watch Amazon be the company to reach and stay on top. More innovators in their warehouses than anywhere in Apple.
If I had the CEO job at Apple, Iwould lead with new innovation that makes the AppleWatch look like a joke. And Netflix would have been integrated perfectly into AppleTV. DropBox would be iCloud and actually work. I would have augmented reality glasses on deck. Probably buy Tesla and use battery manufacturing for iPhones and use capacitors and force my hand on Trump/Government to make roads smart car ready by building out smart car ready roads with electric and sensing features built in. Cars don’t need huge batteries. The roads should have the power in them. There should be a secure network providing information of where all vehicles are on all roads. There should be sensors all over the roads that interact with cars/trucks and that would allow true autonomous transportation that could be accident free.
Why doesn’t Cue think of any of this? Oh he is overloaded telling people he is Apple and he doesn’t have to do this or wear that as it isn’t Apple culture.
Eddy is a fixer. That means he sticks his hands where others wouldn't to get the job done. It's not glamorous nor does it get the plaudits but when somebody needs to grab a project by the scruff of the neck and shake it down then look no further than Mr Cue.
You just assassinated his physical form and his personal clothing style. What does that even have to do with his ability to do the job?
Dude never work anywhere else other than Apple. Great example of seniority over competence. Sure, dude was boss over some teams who did some good stuff. But even a blind person can see that he is just the in-house chipmunk, who's banned from organising keynote's ever since he showed up that one time with a wrinkly shirt and showed off some awkward dance moves after a tequila too many the night before with Drake.
If Apple doesn't have a management problem, then you are implying that Apple management is not at fault for any of Apple's (numerous) issues and failings. Which begs the question, what is it that Eddy Cue does all day?
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Even Steve Jobs made mistakes. Eddy Cue was one of those mistakes.
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Doesn't seem like he's doing much of that "fixing" you're talking about.
Absolutely that’s the impression I get.
But if Apple’s services were available on other platforms, would you use them?
I expect not. Maybe Apple Music. Not really iTunes anymore. Maps? Books? Ok, I was just joking there.
I think that’s telling.
Someone else on this thread made the very astute observation that being an amazing fixer isn’t the same as having a product vision for services.
I know that Apple is a little bit different to most companies though where marketing will provide much of the product vision, so being a top class fixer isn’t necessarily an impediment to running the entire team.
And making these services run for hundreds of millions - if not billions of customers must be super tough. So credit where credit’s due. Not to mention the privacy first approach.
Even so, there feels something that’s just a little too ‘good enough’ about Apple’s services and not ‘insanely great’.
Um, name a perfect company?
The failings certainly don't outweigh the successes though now do they? You can't just cherry pick a couple mistakes and act like the company is in disarray. Apple is worth $1T and has tons of employees. You're not going to be perfect, but I'm pretty sure the strategy is working.
Knowing a bit about management, I would suggest people look at Tim Cook before judging Eddie Cue's performance. I won't excuse falling asleep at a meeting but it does sound like Apple is trying to do a lot with as few resources as possible, and in this case it seems too few resources. If Eddie Cue needs more help then it is Tim Cook who needs to address the issue.
The sad thing is we've been calling this for years on the macrumor forums. But apple doesn't listen to us .
I could tell you this about the man and I don't even know him. You can just tell how he is. Not exactly a leader type. No wonder he couldn't handle the Beats crew
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Or a lot of the areas of stagnation at Apple are actually under Eddie's control. Hmmm
.I could tell you this about the man and I don't even know him. You can just tell how he is. Not exactly a leader type. No wonder he couldn't handle the Beats crew
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Or a lot of the areas of stagnation at Apple are actually under Eddie's control. Hmmm
This is direct Apple studio media. They'll want it to broadcast to everyone, just like Apple music. I don't like it either, but it's smart. It's less about ecosystem here, and more about hits.
Falling asleep in meetings is pretty telling. But I agree with you, Cook is likely part of the problem as well.
I’ve wondered what he actually does. Signing up music labels and rocking out at some sick parties.
I’m sure Apple is just like every other organisation with their own internal challenges.
What makes happy customers?
Happy employees.
Cook should get on top of this but I wonder if he has the balls to.
