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Former 'I'm a Mac' Actor Justin Long Throws Shade at M1 Apple Silicon in New Intel Ad Campaign
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Well. OK then. Intel is a good choice for a game console. 
My amateur take: seems that the M1 may entice developers to create games for it. How many or how fast is the question, but I suppose the hardware had to exist before the software.
Well, except for EA. They'll port to anything and charge you $0.99/minute for the privilege.
My amateur take: seems that the M1 may entice developers to create games for it. How many or how fast is the question, but I suppose the hardware had to exist before the software.
Well, except for EA. They'll port to anything and charge you $0.99/minute for the privilege.
No. This thread is about Intel’s ad. Intel’s ad compares Macintosh laptops to PC laptops. There are Macintosh laptops that support multiple monitors.
Not sure what you are trying to say. If your argument is that Apple Silicon Macintoshes so out perform PC Ultrabooks that people who are purchasing them realized they are fast enough to run games, but right now streaming is the only option for them, that is correct. However, someone considering a PC Ultrabook, the only machines with the same physical specs as the Apple Silicon Macintosh laptops, is not buying it as a gaming machine.
Apple currently has two Apple Silicon Macintosh laptops. Those are competitive in price and physical specs to ultra books. That they now perform so much better than PC based systems in the same physical class explains why there is now interest in gaming on the Macintosh. At the point that Apple has a full line of Apple Silicon Macintosh systems, coupled with the iPads and maybe a new, high-end AppleTV, there may be enough of a market to see AAA titles available. Until then, game streaming is a great option.
More likely they though “thanks for the free publicity, Intel. Once we complete the switchover to M1, we will be seeing you”
I am saying that people don't buy Macs with the expectation that it's going to run their existing library of windows games. When I bought my first iMac in 2011, I knew it meant giving up my entire collection of games. Sure, there was bootcamp at the time, but I didn't expect to use it much, if at all. And the process proved troublesome enough that I stopped bothering shortly after.
Likewise, who are the people hooking up an ultrabook to two external displays? The target market for computers like this are your average consumer like students and teachers, who generally plan to just use the laptop as is and aren't going to bother docking it.
That's why we buy Macs. We know there are these drawbacks, and they simply don't impact us in any meaningful way.
It reminds me of the old Samsung tablet ads where they made such a huge deal about supporting flash, even as that turned out to not be a huge deal at all. You can just smell the desperation in the air, from Intel realising that they have no legitimate advantages over the M1 Mac worth trumpeting.
Not everything that can be measured matters. Just as not everything that matters can be measured. Stuff like an M1 Macbook getting 9 hours of continuous zoom usage while staying cool to the touch (showcase its extraordinary battery life). Being able to airdrop files from my iPhone to a Mac to edit in iMovie or FCP (and highlighting the improved performance of the M1 chip). Its trackpad remains the best in class.
Your original statement was:
The ads compare Macintosh and iPads to PCs. That ad says: ”With the Mac I can plug in one.” It does not say: “With an M1 MacBook Air or M1 MacBook Pro I can plug in one.” I do not care that the thread is incorrectly titled. The two ads that talk about 2-1s and multiple monitors talk about Macintoshes and are therefore not only not “dead on” but simply false.
You are changing your definition mid-argument. Using game streaming one can play games on Apple Silicon machines meaning that one can play games on an Apple Silicon Mac. You are correct that there are not many native macOS AAA titles, but since the hardware is performant enough to make game streaming work, one can play games on these machines.
So there are some games that one cannot play in that way. That is a much different (and way more limited) statement from “you cannot play games on an M1 Mac.”
No, you claim to have watched the ad and said it was “dead on”. No where in the ad does it mention M1 or Apple Silicon. It just say ”With a Mac”. Go back and watch it again.
Nothing I have said claims that Apple can do no wrong, nor have I claimed that there are not use cases where PCs make more sense. My only point is that these ads are disingenuous. They compare the whole world of PC laptops to two ultrabook class Apple Silicon Macintoshes and use the words “with a Mac”, implying all Macintosh systems.
Not out yet. It pairs but doesn't work. Stadia didn't work in Safari either until 11.2.x. Always behind while paying the Apple premium.
Wow 32 pages.
He's just an actor... lol.
I'm a little sad that a lot of people thought Justin Long's performance in Live Free or Die Hard was so bad. I really like that movie. While the hacking from a 3g keyboard'ed cellphone was a little funny, I enjoyed the movie lol. As a kid I really liked the Apple commercials too - though back then I was not an Apple user, but as a Windows user, those ads really spoke to me and probably had an effect on me getting Apple eventually.
While I also like Intel, I'm looking forward to what the M1 will become. May be my age but I don't game as much as I used to. 1 of the 2 games I do play now works just fine on Mac OS (not as good as Windows tho). The other game I used Shadow Cloud for the last year - worked pretty good. (Starcraft II and Age of Empires II HD).
He's just an actor... lol.
I'm a little sad that a lot of people thought Justin Long's performance in Live Free or Die Hard was so bad. I really like that movie. While the hacking from a 3g keyboard'ed cellphone was a little funny, I enjoyed the movie lol. As a kid I really liked the Apple commercials too - though back then I was not an Apple user, but as a Windows user, those ads really spoke to me and probably had an effect on me getting Apple eventually.
While I also like Intel, I'm looking forward to what the M1 will become. May be my age but I don't game as much as I used to. 1 of the 2 games I do play now works just fine on Mac OS (not as good as Windows tho). The other game I used Shadow Cloud for the last year - worked pretty good. (Starcraft II and Age of Empires II HD).
Not in the one that matters most: sales
It's more important for them to protect the dominance of x86. They know how to deal with AMD. The performance crown occasionally changing between these two is nothing new. But there is more to it than that, most importantly the breadth of Intel's products that creates the entire ecosystem. This is also a major problem for ARM. Apple has the capabilities and scale to build a custom chipset etc., but most OEMs don't.
Agreed, and convert him - show how his life got better after finally switching. "Better late than never!" lol.
Your Envy x360 is twice the weight of the Thinkpad X1 Carbon she uses (2 kg vs. 1kg). TWICE !!! It is not a perfect solution for everyone, but for her it is perfect and she loves it. I love, love the Thinkpad keyboard. Love that its battery is EASY to replace. Love how easy it is to access the built in stylus. Love that the sensitivity of the stylus is the same as our Wacom. Love how easy the battery can be replaced along with access to other internals. Thinkpad would be the only computer brand I would consider on the Windows side (used to work for HP so I am apologizing in advance for what you are likely to experience later). Lenovo is not a brand I would have bought, but apparently they have not yet diminished the Thinkpad products given the primary user base is businesses willing to pay top dollar.
My point is that the Yoga design can be a terrific option. Not perfect as a tablet, but one that is very acceptable for many. (I see no tradeoffs at a portable computer - it really is a fantastic portable.) Apple with the M1 could probably build an absolutely amazing, astonishing Yoga product. If they did, my daughter would own it. Rather than continue towards $1T in stock buy backs, I wish Apple would commit to giving consumers more options. A Yoga-styled portable for one. A version of a Fairphone for another (for people whose commitment to the environment exceeds their need for newest and shiniest).
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I hear in there next commercial they show Justin comparing the iPod Touch to the Zune.
Actor: “no one would ever use an iPod Touch as a doorstop like they do with Zune”
Actor: “no one would ever use an iPod Touch as a doorstop like they do with Zune”
Damn, Justin "I'm a Mac" Long sure knows how to push our buttons.
Now I want Apple to hire Dwayne the Rock Johnson as "Mac" when they launch the first proper Apple Silicon computer
then have him completely decimate "I'm a PC"-actor John Hodgman in a variety of different activities.
Now I want Apple to hire Dwayne the Rock Johnson as "Mac" when they launch the first proper Apple Silicon computer
then have him completely decimate "I'm a PC"-actor John Hodgman in a variety of different activities.
How is Apple going to spin that though? You're giving up so much more than you gain with M1. Even the basics like browsing and palm rejection are broken.
One other thought. I remember really liking the "I'm a Mac/I'm a PC" commercials and thinking Macs looked interesting but, it wasn't until they started using Intel processors, and Bootcamp, that I really got interested enough to dive in. Now, years later, I so much prefer macOS to Windows that I fully intend to get a new MBP with Apple silicon when the 16 and 14 inch MBPs are available later in the year, even though it may not be possible to run Windows.
Game properly? Define gaming please. Am I not a gamer if I play point&click adventures?
That movie is a giant pile of garbage, and ruined the whole franchise. That movie is why Bruce Willis now makes 200 straight-to-streaming movies each year with names like “blazing violence” and “action death.”
Have you ever used one? How many times have you actually touch the screen on laptop and when you press on the screen it moves. Does it make you feel good? People buy laptops not because of touchscreen your argument is dumb.
You’re leaving the debate because you’ve gotten this wrong, and it’s a shame you won’t admit that. The thread title is completely irrelevant. It’s fair to interpret the ads as an attack on the M1 Macs, but nothing in the ads actually refer to the M1, they speak only of PCs and Macs, and appear to compare everything available on the PC side with everything available on the Mac side. The problem with that is (a) they clearly do omit all the Intel powered Macs that can handle multiple monitors for example, and (b) fail to clarify that the two Macs they are pitching the entirety of the PC range against are two of the cheapest, lowest spec machines that Apple make. These are desperate and deliberately misleading tactics from Intel, that will fail as Apple release higher spec M1 and M1X devices.
Hasn't it? ... For sure there's no shortage of 2-in-1's. I'd think, though, if I was terribly wrong that many would gleefully respond to my post(s) to tell me how well the MS Surface Pro or convertable / 2-in-1's doing (better then just treading water).
What I'd be curious to know is whether the tablet portion of a PC 2-in-1 laptop sees much regular use from those that do buy one. Logically, they make sense from a quick shoot from the hips kind of way (to me, at least). But, after that (likely highly biased opinion) I have to figure they're instead 3+ lb "fablets" that have around half battery life.
I think they're great ads! But they don't talk about the downsides to PCs and windows either which makes sense.
The whole Mac market share is like 15% at best and 85% is for Wintel machine. I don't think Intel has anything to worry about here.