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I heard awesome things about this production when it was at the Public Theatre. Congrats to Scott!
 
It's evident that his rift with the post-Jobs Apple exec team left him with a very bitter taste in his mouth. So much so that rather than join another tech behemoth, he decided to leave Silicon Valley altogether to pursue his artistic interests.

Scott was an artist in a sense, after all. There was a visual poetry, a familiarity, and an elegance that you just don't see in iOS 7 and beyond. I was a huge fan of the skeuomorphic design.

Sure, it was kitschy and cheesy, but it made you feel like you were not using a cold, lifeless, electronic device. It made you relate to the objects, signs, and textures of the real world, which made the iOS experience humanizing.

Jony Ive fetishizes ever-flatter design and ever-thinner hardware. He thinks simplicity = less stuff. But he is wrong. Simplicity = harmony/relateability with the real world. Jobs and Forstall understood that.

I still own a 3rd generation iPod touch stuck on iOS 5 and once in a while I check if it still works. The old UI looks so antiquated to me now. I don't think I could ever go back to the skeuomorphic design again. The only feature I would like is "dark mode" to give people who don't want to see the bright white all of the time when they go into settings, mail, etc. (especially at night). As for Ive's obsession with thinner hardware, I hope some more thought goes into the durability of hardware design in the future and the functionality doesn't get compromised. Maybe that's the reason they might use stronger 7000 series aluminum in the next iPhone according to a rumor released yesterday.
 
But Maps was a disaster, the service part anyway.

Everything is always a disaster with Apple, you people do realize that with Google/Microsoft there is never a smooth launch of a new product.

As a long time Android/ Windows 8 user I can attest to that.
 
I think that MR are trolling - trying to evoke a reaction just to bump up hit counts. Such pathetic "journalism", they know full well what a tiresomely childish bunch some MR members can be, and MR know exactly what manner of brain dead comments this article will provoke.

Slow day in the newsroom, huh?

Good on you, Scott. I'm serious, and MR needs to grow the #### up.

The irony from this guy
 
Have you ever produced a Broadway show?





Yeah, I thought so.

No but Parker and Stone said it was pretty easy and they did more then just provide funds for their producer credit.

I think people way overblow what a producer does, especially for a Broadway show. It is most likely they were fund raisers.
 
Of course is newsworthy, we're talking about the father of the iPhone here. Also, everyone knows Steve loved Scott and agreed with him everytime. Tim Cook and friends took Steve's death as an opportunity to fire him.
Steve loved him but a lot of other people didn't. Even other ex-Apple employees including Jon Rubinstein and Tony Fadell didn't have a lot of nice things to say about Scott.

As far as his design aesthetics are concerned, I will admit that I still kind of like OS X's early aqua-themed design, but a lot of the icons and artwork, especially on iOS had to go. I still use a 4th generation iPod Touch that can't upgrade to anything beyond iOS 6 and those designs are horribly dated. To me it's like the equivalent of of looking at 90's CG in movies and video games. It looked great at the time but hasn't aged well at all. It just looks cheesy. I'm not saying what Ive did was pure gold but maybe if there was somehow a balance between the two styles?

Still, I'm happy that he's found something that he's passionate about and that he's working again.
 
Has he gone crazy?

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As far as his design aesthetics are concerned, I will admit that I still kind of like OS X's early aqua-themed design, but a lot of the icons and artwork, especially on iOS had to go. I still use a 4th generation iPod Touch that can't upgrade to anything beyond iOS 6 and those designs are horribly dated. To me it's like the equivalent of of looking at 90's CG in movies and video games. It looked great at the time but hasn't aged well at all. It just looks cheesy. I'm not saying what Ive did was pure gold but maybe if there was somehow a balance between the two styles?

Still, I'm happy that he's found something that he's passionate about and that he's working again.

What about the butterfly watch face? Isn't that kinda skeumorphic? Why not a vector-based butterfly flapping its wings instead?
 
I think that MR are trolling - trying to evoke a reaction just to bump up hit counts. Such pathetic "journalism", they know full well what a tiresomely childish bunch some MR members can be, and MR know exactly what manner of brain dead comments this article will provoke.

Slow day in the newsroom, huh?

Good on you, Scott. I'm serious, and MR needs to grow the #### up.

They knew they'd get plenty of skeumorphism vs flat posts so it was good for page views.
 
A rather important/prominent Apple figure is doing something that is in the news, seems appropriate for a site that is about Apple and various rumors and information surrounding the company and people/organizations/companies involved with the company, directly or indirectly, past or present (or future).

... I believe he was ousted from Apple, and didn't have the balls to own up to his (departments) shortcomings, and Tim Cook took the brunt of it to issue a statement about the horrible iOS maps fiasco. That said, it this has nothing to do with Apple in the least. And I don't know that Broadway Releases are worth front page space on MacRumors. Just my own opinion, but surely not the only one.

Team Jony all the way!

(Next news article Scott Forstall spotted buying toilet paper a MacRumors Exclusive:rolleyes:)
 
The dude is young, presumably healthy, has a wife and kids, all the money they could ever need, and he's producing something he's passionate about. We should all be so lucky. Good for him.
 
Regardless of how overbearing he may or may not have been, I miss the product of his labors in iOS.



iOS 7 & 8 look atrocious.


I have mixed feelings about this. I saved some screen captures of my iPhone 5 on iOS 6, and I have to admit that I miss the metal/glass look of some of the icons and interface. It seemed alive in a way that iOS 7/8 doesn't.

On the other hand, iOS 7/8 seems more cohesive to me, and has none of the odd inconsistencies brought on by overuse of textured surfaces in some of the iOS 6 apps. iOS 7/8 is also much easier to use than 6 because of the Notification Center and Control Center. If I'd had my way, I would have probably preferred the metal glass look of 6 (I would have ditched the wood/felt/leather textures) with the consistency and features of 7/8.

The dude is young, presumably healthy, has a wife and kids, all the money they could ever need, and he's producing something he's passionate about. We should all be so lucky. Good for him.


I agree. Not everyone has the chance to professionally explore a second interest. If theater is something Scott always wanted to do, but never had time for because of commitment to Apple, then I'm glad he has had the opportunity to work on Broadway. I wish him success.
 
Everything is always a disaster with Apple, you people do realize that with Google/Microsoft there is never a smooth launch of a new product.

As a long time Android/ Windows 8 user I can attest to that.

That doesn't matter, it was not Apple like, and people expect more from them. Frankly, I did too. Maps for awhile didn't even accurately pinpoint where I lived, so guess what happens when my friends would use their iPhones navigate? They end up 2 blocks away.
 
Jony's version:

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First he works with SnapChat, then he does a broadway musical?? What´s next?

He can do whatever he wishes, its his time now, not corporate. And he is rich enough to pursue any interests he wishes with certain results :)
 
I think that MR are trolling - trying to evoke a reaction just to bump up hit counts. Such pathetic "journalism", they know full well what a tiresomely childish bunch some MR members can be, and MR know exactly what manner of brain dead comments this article will provoke.

Slow day in the newsroom, huh?

Good on you, Scott. I'm serious, and MR needs to grow the #### up.

Sounds good at first , but you pretty much can project that interpretation on any news that is published on MacRumors. Look at the idiots that jump on the "Jony shows new wristbands" or "Karl Lagerfeld receives golden Watch". It's all the same. It is not trolling, it's the business that MR are in. And you'll find tons of "childish" people on all sides.
 
Has he gone crazy?



What about the butterfly watch face? Isn't that kinda skeumorphic? Why not a vector-based butterfly flapping its wings instead?
Now you're talking about something that's the equivalent of a desktop background. Desktop backgrounds are completely separate from the actual user interface. Icons are something that should defy trends. I think Skeumorphic design works best when you're using it for a one time thing such as a logo for a movie or video game or something relates directly to a specific product. I don't think it works well when it's used for something such as a desktop icon that's supposed to used universally.
 
I really miss Scott's skeuomorphic design elements.

Apple IOS design is now sterile, glaring blind you at night bright white and red. Who ever thought that the current UI design was an improvement? It's horrible.

And the way he was pushed out of Apple shows that the slogan "think different" only applies to those in political favor.

I'm happy to see that the scapegoat is doing well in some other endeavor.

Yay Scott Forstall !!!

High five...
 
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