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Fortune Names Steve Jobs 'Smartest CEO', Jony Ive 'Smartest Designer' in Tech
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Well... there are some trolls on here that just want to bash for the sake of bashing. Most trashing products they don't even own or have experience with. Those are the Trolls. Let me be clear... I don't think Apple or Steve is perfect. There are many things I would have liked to see different over the years and even with the current iPhone 4... which I own and use. I don't think they are perfect and I know Apple makes mistakes... every company does. No one is perfect.
But with that said... Apple does more great moves than they do bad moves and Steve and his crew deserve the credit they are given.
I just can't stand the people who just feel compelled to jump on EVERY article good or bad and toss a slam in about how much things suck.
That's all and I'm sorry you took offense.
Its funny, you never see any other company discussed like Apple. They're now under a microscope.
No company or product is ever perfect - but they seem to nail it better than anyone out there.... by far.
No company or product is ever perfect - but they seem to nail it better than anyone out there.... by far.
When...
I held MacBook 15' unibody in my hands... when I unboxed it... owned it...
That's when you feel how well it's been thought out and engineered, made so well.
The aluminum unibody... so well done, then you look at the plastic of PC laptops... the fail in comparison.
Well Done!
Last year when I bought an Asus... still with clingy factory plastic on it... As I opened and lift the laptop screen for the first time.. hearing a pop-pop sound....
I looked over to the hinges to see both plastic hinge canopies laying on the desk, still with their plastic factory film on.. the hinge canopies had broken off on first opening...
I could not stop laughing at that!
Both had small dog legs clips.. they'd broken off as they flew off the laptop lol...
I held MacBook 15' unibody in my hands... when I unboxed it... owned it...
That's when you feel how well it's been thought out and engineered, made so well.
The aluminum unibody... so well done, then you look at the plastic of PC laptops... the fail in comparison.
Well Done!
Last year when I bought an Asus... still with clingy factory plastic on it... As I opened and lift the laptop screen for the first time.. hearing a pop-pop sound....
I looked over to the hinges to see both plastic hinge canopies laying on the desk, still with their plastic factory film on.. the hinge canopies had broken off on first opening...
I could not stop laughing at that!
Both had small dog legs clips.. they'd broken off as they flew off the laptop lol...
Nice work by both of them. I'd chalk up the antenna design of the iPhone 4 to a stumble from an otherwise fantastic designer.
Many problems? It's just the only phone to receive such scrutiny. No one cares about the "buy one, get one free" Droid. I have had the iPhone 4 since day one and the antenna "problem" is just overblown hype. Yes, I can on occasion make the signal strength drop on the display, but the phone still make calls just fine. If the phone really had problems, we would be aware of many returns within the 30 day return window. People don't keep expensive electronics products that have "MANY" problems. Do you have one yourself, to speak from first hand knowledge?
And a lying (or stupid) bunch of critics who massively overstate the problem while ignoring the fact that it hangs on to more calls than before overall, downloads and uploads at incredible speed, has the best screen on the market, the largest number of apps on any platform, etc. Go ahead, Swiftboat all you want, Tea Party your ass off, you still can't touch that.
Funny that you said that.............that even knowing about the so called (problems) I personally do not have any 1.7 million people bought it........now who is the smart one here......the one who sells 1.7 million Iphones and counting(even with problems as you called it) or the one who had to stop trying to sell nexus ones because they could not sell any..... I wonder.
Uh ? Get out of the Apple blogosphere, this phenomenon isn't unique to Apple in some way. Google, Microsoft, Novell, HP, Dell, they all get their minute in the spotlight.
Just because you don't know where to get tech news other than Apple news doesn't mean it's not out there.
Yeah, I wouldn't discount the iPhone just because it has a couple of issues either. There are very few things in this world that are completely flawless.
Regarding Steve's mortality, Apples shares will tank when he leaves us...it's inevitable, at least until Apple sans Steve can show they have what it takes to keep moving the game forward.
Well said.
Although Steve Jobs is by far the best known CEO out there at the moment.
Who's smarter in the business than Steve and Jonathan? Tech has moved so vastly because of the two of them! KUDOS!!!
Without a doubt these are two of the greatest businessmen of all.
re: new Toshiba, etc.
alent1234: I run into this same mentality all the time. People see the low price tag on a Windows-based system and they can't fathom how they'd possibly get enough extra "value" from a Mac purchase to spend the extra money to go that route. (And let's be honest here; even a basic Macbook portable on sale at Micro Center is going to set a person back at least $800 - and that's just about the cheapest place to buy a new one at the present time.) When Toshiba, Acer and others keep cranking out laptops at the $300 price-point, you can literally buy *3* of them for the price of an entry level Macbook Pro 13" or Macbook at the local Apple store.)
Then, to complicate things further, you still have the cost of re-buying software to get native OS X versions. (Most of these people owned Windows-based computers in the past and still have some software they want to use with their new machine, such as Microsoft Office.)
As someone who works in I.T. though, I've repaired and used enough computers to realize some things. First of all, those cheap Toshibas OFTEN give out on people shortly after the 1 year warranty expires. When they don't, they really start looking beat-up and showing signs of major wear. Typically, you see screen hinges so loose, the display can't be positioned upright at some angles anymore and silver paint worn off around all the edges and palm-rest area of the machine. Often, one of the trackpad buttons will start sticking, and keyboard keys may even pop out and never snap back in again. You'll likely start having overheating issues that you can solve for about 3-4 weeks of use at a time by spraying compressed air into all the vents, because dust in the heatsinks pushes them over the edge into overheating and randomly shutting down. Basically, it won't be a computer you're too proud to own after a little while....
Second, you purchased yet another Windows machine. The "Mac tax" is largely justified by the fact that you're purchasing a license for the OS X operating system with the machine. It's hard to put a price on that, since Apple only sells full OS X licenses bundled with new hardware, and they won't break down the costs to tell you how much of it was the OS. But from another standpoint? How much of your time and effort and lost productivity did you have over the life of a Windows PC, purely from spyware and virus issues or device driver conflicts? With OS X, I can honestly say all of that is next to 0 for me.
Lastly, people need to learn that with a Mac, you've got to stay aware of their product cycles much more closely than you do with Windows PC makers like Dell or HP. Those companies release incremental system upgrades every few months. Anything you buy off the shelf from them is going to be pretty current. With Apple, refreshes only come annually or so, as a rule. The Mac Pros you complain are "so far behind" were actually very competitive when they first came out. They're just past due for a refresh (should be here any time now). It's just the nature of Apple products that you can't always grab one off the shelf and assume you're getting a "good deal". You may have to hold off a bit and wait for a product update before buying the one you want, or alternately, buy a refurbished product to get a better buy.
alent1234: I run into this same mentality all the time. People see the low price tag on a Windows-based system and they can't fathom how they'd possibly get enough extra "value" from a Mac purchase to spend the extra money to go that route. (And let's be honest here; even a basic Macbook portable on sale at Micro Center is going to set a person back at least $800 - and that's just about the cheapest place to buy a new one at the present time.) When Toshiba, Acer and others keep cranking out laptops at the $300 price-point, you can literally buy *3* of them for the price of an entry level Macbook Pro 13" or Macbook at the local Apple store.)
Then, to complicate things further, you still have the cost of re-buying software to get native OS X versions. (Most of these people owned Windows-based computers in the past and still have some software they want to use with their new machine, such as Microsoft Office.)
As someone who works in I.T. though, I've repaired and used enough computers to realize some things. First of all, those cheap Toshibas OFTEN give out on people shortly after the 1 year warranty expires. When they don't, they really start looking beat-up and showing signs of major wear. Typically, you see screen hinges so loose, the display can't be positioned upright at some angles anymore and silver paint worn off around all the edges and palm-rest area of the machine. Often, one of the trackpad buttons will start sticking, and keyboard keys may even pop out and never snap back in again. You'll likely start having overheating issues that you can solve for about 3-4 weeks of use at a time by spraying compressed air into all the vents, because dust in the heatsinks pushes them over the edge into overheating and randomly shutting down. Basically, it won't be a computer you're too proud to own after a little while....
Second, you purchased yet another Windows machine. The "Mac tax" is largely justified by the fact that you're purchasing a license for the OS X operating system with the machine. It's hard to put a price on that, since Apple only sells full OS X licenses bundled with new hardware, and they won't break down the costs to tell you how much of it was the OS. But from another standpoint? How much of your time and effort and lost productivity did you have over the life of a Windows PC, purely from spyware and virus issues or device driver conflicts? With OS X, I can honestly say all of that is next to 0 for me.
Lastly, people need to learn that with a Mac, you've got to stay aware of their product cycles much more closely than you do with Windows PC makers like Dell or HP. Those companies release incremental system upgrades every few months. Anything you buy off the shelf from them is going to be pretty current. With Apple, refreshes only come annually or so, as a rule. The Mac Pros you complain are "so far behind" were actually very competitive when they first came out. They're just past due for a refresh (should be here any time now). It's just the nature of Apple products that you can't always grab one off the shelf and assume you're getting a "good deal". You may have to hold off a bit and wait for a product update before buying the one you want, or alternately, buy a refurbished product to get a better buy.
Agreed
Clever is more accurate. Love him or hate him you have to give him props. Anyone that can sell millions of defective, overpriced products to customers and then those same customers so emotionally defend their decision to purchase defective products is a freakin genius.
Clever is more accurate. Love him or hate him you have to give him props. Anyone that can sell millions of defective, overpriced products to customers and then those same customers so emotionally defend their decision to purchase defective products is a freakin genius.
Fortune Names Steve Jobs 'Smartest CEO'
I guess the article was written before the iPhone 4 release.
I guess the article was written before the iPhone 4 release.
Forgive me if I came off as an anti-Apple troll, I get sarcastic and punch-drunk on Fridays. Let me be clear, I'm as big of an Apple & Jobs fan as the next guy.
They both deserve this accolade for what they have done (and here it comes) BUT decisions made within the last year or so do not exactly support such praise. This does not disqualify them for such, but it does have an irony one can't deny.
There are plenty of things I have defended Apple and Jobs for and I fully believe in their vision. But lets face the facts, we're Apple customers. We tend to whine a lot about everything and expect perfection in service as well. We get upset every time Apple releases something because it didn't meet rumor expectations. I'm sure Apple and Jobs get tired of us and our childish behavior as customers, so one can hardly blame them when they treat us like children or pretend there's nothing wrong. I should expect my MBP battery to expand and explode when it's old, that way I know when to replace it and repair the damage. Having it simply stop working is just silly and childish. Apple tells me "it's normal" and "not to worry, it's not a danger" but I should "stop using it" and buy a new one. Silly me.
They both deserve this accolade for what they have done (and here it comes) BUT decisions made within the last year or so do not exactly support such praise. This does not disqualify them for such, but it does have an irony one can't deny.
There are plenty of things I have defended Apple and Jobs for and I fully believe in their vision. But lets face the facts, we're Apple customers. We tend to whine a lot about everything and expect perfection in service as well. We get upset every time Apple releases something because it didn't meet rumor expectations. I'm sure Apple and Jobs get tired of us and our childish behavior as customers, so one can hardly blame them when they treat us like children or pretend there's nothing wrong. I should expect my MBP battery to expand and explode when it's old, that way I know when to replace it and repair the damage. Having it simply stop working is just silly and childish. Apple tells me "it's normal" and "not to worry, it's not a danger" but I should "stop using it" and buy a new one. Silly me.
Ive deserves nearly all credit for Apple's success. Jobs was smart yes, smart enough to let a designer design instead of cut costs. Unfortunately most CEOs dont understand the value of style because they have never had any. Ive was responsible for every product that turned Apple around like the iMac and the iPod.
There's not much difference between the words. It all depends on context of course. Webster's and OED definitions are slightly different however.
One thing's for sure, the use of words in the US can differ from state to state. Unfortunately this does not take away from their apparent authority over our English language.
Excuse me while I go and 'fix me a sandwich'... :-/
So what you're saying is the British contingent made Apple what it is today!
And don't diss SJ's style...his outfit has quite a following you know... :|
