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Thank you for adding the notice describing how to change the default back, the new layout was actually discouraging me from visiting. I'm only interested in a select few forums, and they're not the ones with all the traffic...
yeah. If you spend a minute to set up a few watched forums, the new posts can just pull from there if you use the filter.
obviously this didn’t go as smoothly as I’d hoped so am keeping that in mind.
arn
Not a fan of the default layout but I am glad there is an option to revert back!
So I've changed back to the "new" view and added the filter to "Watched forums & threads" per @arn 's suggestion and it's much better. I still prefer to drill down into the various areas of the forum that interest me most at the time and I can easily do that by selecting the "forums list" tab. This gives me almost the best of both worlds as I'd still prefer to see the forums tab as my primary view but this isn't bad.
Yuck!
Change for the sake of change is typically reflective of boredom and bankrupt thinking.
I still can't get over how much worse the newer forum looks compared to its predecessor.
I did, thank you.
However, change for the sake of change is a negative, and that is what the change both looks like and how your explanation reads.
Sorry to be a downer, but having read your site since something like 2001 (2002?), this, combined with the (most recent) platform change, appears as one step forward but two steps backward.
I don't like this change. I'll change it back to see the forum list instead.
Great thread: it is good to discuss how we like information displayed on a website we like.
Also, having the choice is great, thanks.
Personal preference: for me, more structured is better. So, forum list it is. At least instead of a list of active threads, which is bound to change all the time. As I tend to visit the same 3 or 4 forums all the time, being able to set a specific forum as a starting point might be good, but probably not worth the time adding this feature, unless others have the same habit.
Also, having the choice is great, thanks.
Personal preference: for me, more structured is better. So, forum list it is. At least instead of a list of active threads, which is bound to change all the time. As I tend to visit the same 3 or 4 forums all the time, being able to set a specific forum as a starting point might be good, but probably not worth the time adding this feature, unless others have the same habit.
It's good to hear the different ways people use the site.
It is possible to filter "New Posts" with just the forums you care about. But right now the process is a little complicated. (You can "Watch" specific forums and then use the Filter in New Posts to just show those.)
I'm looking into options on how to make it work smoother for everyone. But, if you are happy with Forum List -- and revert back, even if we do change the default in the future, it won't change for you.
arn
While I haven’t liked everything about the new facelift etc., I believe Arn is trying to make the site as functional and user friendly as possible.
Given that forum usage has been significantly down since the advent of social media, Arn has to constantly walk the technology tightrope between practical usage that draws and keeps members, versus forum eye candy that many here look for year after year, just like they do the iPhone.
While the forum software and layout is important, the heart and life force of MR is it’s regular member posters. And that is what makes me proud and keeps me coming back every day.
Only posting this here, as i reckon its related..
The site now must login just to view posts from email link..
This is kinda gona backwards.... The workaround would be to either stay logged in, or just navigate through forum as usually, but its not the same.
"You must be logged in to do this" I'm just viewing a reply,, don't wish to even post. On a whim, ii think this got changed as well about the same time.
The site now must login just to view posts from email link..
This is kinda gona backwards.... The workaround would be to either stay logged in, or just navigate through forum as usually, but its not the same.
"You must be logged in to do this" I'm just viewing a reply,, don't wish to even post. On a whim, ii think this got changed as well about the same time.
We didn’t change anything. The only thing I can think of is it was a Political thread which isn’t accessible to the public.
arn
It's definitely evolved, before social media a forum was the only real place for people to engage in conversation and now it's being relegated to obscurity. I do see the urge to try and modernize things a bit but the other side of that is existing users aren't always so adaptable.
Just a sidetrack observation here, for any of the forum owners/operators out there are you familiar with Discord and if so, what are your thoughts on it? It's much like forum on steroids, IMO the next logical step in this type of software.
"Steroids" is right. I'm still in Discord recovery after modding on two servers and being a user on many others. I'm never going back to using it. I much prefer the calm of this forum format.
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Discourse or Discord?
Discourse is a more modern attempt at a forum. Discord is more realtime chat.
I had a hard time getting into Discourse. There are some successful communities, but for some reason it didn't really click with me.
arn
I am thinking of Discord and you're right about it being more like a realtime chat, almost like an updated version of IRC. I do like the feature of going to last read though, it gives it sort of a forum feel only faster and a bit more of a modern feel.
I love Discourse because:
- It has a neat feature called infinite scroll (which replaces thread pages): https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-is-infinite-scrolling/30804
- Everything updates in real time (posts, notifications, etc)
- It is extremely modern
Migrating from vBulletin to Discourse was admittedly daunting at first, but I quickly adored Discourse and got used to it within a week.
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I think "some" is an understatement. 😅
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Discord is oriented towards gamers. You'll much prefer Slack (the exact same thing as Discord, but without the gamer stuff).
I'm on a couple of other forums that uses Discourse and I'm not a much of a fan. I'm very happy with the style and software MacRumors is using. If we end up on Discourse there is a possibility my participation here would wane just as it does on those other forums where I rarely ever visit anymore.
As for Discord, I much prefer traditional IRC instead. If MacRumors went the Discord route, I'd probably fall away faster than on Discourse. There is too much flair on Discord for my liking.
I do hope MacRumors stays the course with Xenforo.
As for Discord, I much prefer traditional IRC instead. If MacRumors went the Discord route, I'd probably fall away faster than on Discourse. There is too much flair on Discord for my liking.
I do hope MacRumors stays the course with Xenforo.
I suspect that if MR were to adopt Discord as the primary forum software that a lot of people would not be happy about that, and I would be one of them. Text, vocal and other approaches offering immediacy is fine for some situations but not for a forum which provides information and ongoing support for people who are using various Apple products and devices. This is not a site for gamers, this is a site for all users of Apple products, from Grandma and Grandpa right down to the 12-year-old who has managed to evade the age restrictions and sign on with his or her own account.
Someone may not need to know right now about some quirk in MacOS but they may need that information a few months or a year or two later if they have chosen not to update their system for whatever reason. With the kind of format available through our current forum software, that is possible to quickly access.
I don’t know enough about Discourse as a forum software program to agree or disagree that it would be appropriate for MR, but I have the suspicion that again, it would not be for various reasons, and that whlie it might satisfy some people who come to MR, like Discord it could also have the rather unfortunate result of alienating a lot of users. That’s not what Arn or anyone else here wants to see happen! I’m in the camp of let’s just stick with what we’ve got — Xenforo — for a while, as it seems to be working well for the majority of users at MR. It also works very well for another forum in which I have been a long-time participant and in which again the switch was made from vBulletin, which indeed had outlived its usefulness.
Someone may not need to know right now about some quirk in MacOS but they may need that information a few months or a year or two later if they have chosen not to update their system for whatever reason. With the kind of format available through our current forum software, that is possible to quickly access.
I don’t know enough about Discourse as a forum software program to agree or disagree that it would be appropriate for MR, but I have the suspicion that again, it would not be for various reasons, and that whlie it might satisfy some people who come to MR, like Discord it could also have the rather unfortunate result of alienating a lot of users. That’s not what Arn or anyone else here wants to see happen! I’m in the camp of let’s just stick with what we’ve got — Xenforo — for a while, as it seems to be working well for the majority of users at MR. It also works very well for another forum in which I have been a long-time participant and in which again the switch was made from vBulletin, which indeed had outlived its usefulness.