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From Steve Jobs' Biography: "I'm going to destroy Android"

UK-MacAddict said:
Sure competition is good but at least come up with your own ideas.

The problem of copying is more with Samsung than HTC. Again at least HTC has a row of buttons on the bottom for different functions. Samsung have made a carbon copy of the iPhone with its one home button. Thats my point, of course buttons will be below the screen but Samsung chose to have the one button setup just like the iPhone. They even made the silver rim like the old 3GS that goes around the phone. As for the little white blobs, surely they could have used little white squares or some other shape.

Im sure Microsoft probably had some touch technology at the same time as Apple but I'm pretty sure Apple acquired the company which invented the multi touch it uses on its iPhones etc.

As for the last part of your comment. Companies can copy all they want as long as they pay for and have permission for their use from the company which has it patented.
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I can't find the samsung you're talking about. The one with silver rim like the 3gs is the Galaxy S, and you're right, it's a copycat of the iphone 3gs (externally). But it doesn't have 1 button, it has 3... :S

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KnightWRX said:
Remember who won that lawsuit ? ;)
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Remember who wins the ($)courts($) in democratic America?
 
orfeas0 said:
I can't find the samsung you're talking about. The one with silver rim like the 3gs is the Galaxy S, and you're right, it's a copycat of the iphone 3gs (externally). But it doesn't have 1 button, it has 3... :S
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Actually, the "3GS" look alike is the Galaxy S i9000 (international)/Vibrant (US/Canada). And it doesn't have a silver rim, it has a dark chrome rim. The difference is notable in person, not so much on pictures. ;)

Not to mention it looks nothing like a 3GS, the back is completely different and as you point out, the 3 buttons on the bottom (2 capacitative).
 
k995 said:
Yes :

Version 1.0 (February 06, 2007): spb mobile shell

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reminds you of something? This was released 6 months before iphone

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Lg prada released couple of months before iphone

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Oh no there isnt. BEFORE the iphone was released other already had the basic design apple still follows.
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You guys act like Apple in the course of 6 months completely scrapped the design of the of iPhone because of the prada. The iPhone was in development for years prior to release stuff like that takes time.
 
yes but

ChrisTX said:
You guys act like Apple in the course of 6 months completely scrapped the design of the of iPhone because of the prada. The iPhone was in development for years prior to release stuff like that takes time.
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k995 said:
Yes :

Version 1.0 (February 06, 2007): spb mobile shell

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reminds you of something? This was released 6 months before iphone

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Lg prada released couple of months before iphone

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Oh no there isnt. BEFORE the iphone was released other already had the basic design apple still follows.
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Yes it's true but never working good ... like my (****ing) android
 
Android can't be stopped.
Being Destructive is not a good use of time and money for Apple. They should not try to stifle innovation even if it is stolen from them initially. They should use the competitive energy to be better instead. Apple should not believe that all the good ideas are taken. Just make more. Be Creative and Keep Thinking Different.

When Google's Schmidt came to talk. Apple should have setup some sort of Royalty payment plan and then used that money to innovate again.
I hope Steve didn't leave "Destroy Android" in his will.
I hope Tim Cook will reconsider.
 
Compare what Schmidt and Gates said about Jobs with what Jobs says in the book about Schmidt and Gates.

Jobs comments sounds a lot like what Richard Stallman said about Jobs...

Classy stuff.
 
Copy? I love my iPhone but if Jobs wants to talk about theft then let's talk about the pull-down menu that was added to the recent iOS. He never gives elaborate credit to other companies i.e. Microsoft, Dropbox, Google, Samsung, HTC. His ego was too big for my liking, but that's what great entrepreneurs are made of I guess. And he's a Buddhist ironically.
 
Why is it only when it comes to mobile phones that people expect a new design every revision?
I dont hear people complaining why the MBP still has the same design since 2008.
The iPhone4 looks elegant and since it is only a year old it will continue to be, so why rush into something new with the 4S?
Instead of spending on design, they can spend that extra cash on new technologies and ideas.

Funny thing is, Jobs has enough money to buy a couple nukes.
 
ChrisTX said:
You guys act like Apple in the course of 6 months completely scrapped the design of the of iPhone because of the prada. The iPhone was in development for years prior to release stuff like that takes time.
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lmao

No I dont act like that, apple fanboys act like that who think everyone copies apple.

I merely showed that the whole market was moving in that direction, apple included. LG didnt copy apple, apple didnt copy LG they saw simular influnences and drew simular designs . The tech moved on and along it the market, happens all the time.

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Steflinsky said:
Yes it's true but never working good ... like my (****ing) android
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Then by something else, I am more content with my android then with my iphone 3g I had, but its quit possible the iphone 5 will be better, I will happely make the the switch. People who are blinded by brand are stupid, I look at what works best for me, dont care about brand.
 
LagunaSol said:
Apple is an American company, FYI. Samsung, HTC, LG, etc...not so much.

Apple is generating American profits, while Google fuels the Korean economy so it can pimp its users for advertising. Nice work Serge and Larry.
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as opposed to apple moving a large amount of its bankroll overseas to avoid... tax (o_O)
 
So I am curious as to how the Android defenders on here feel about being cattle on the Google farm. Do you enjoy using a smartphone OS from a company that does not give a rat's arse about you or your privacy?

I'd rather use a smartphone from a company that actually sees me as a customer.

I think of Google kind of like the machine army in the Matrix movies and Android users as human batteries hooked up into the matrix.
 
aristotle said:
I'd rather use a smartphone from a company [Apple] that actually sees me as a customer.
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LOL! You really think apple cares about you? You could lose your job, go broke, have your house taken away, lose your family, end up on the streets and lose a couple of limbs, Apple will not give a rats ass about you.

Apple only cares about whats in your wallet, PERIOD.
 
aristotle said:
So I am curious as to how the Android defenders on here feel about being cattle on the Google farm. Do you enjoy using a smartphone OS from a company that does not give a rat's arse about you or your privacy?

I'd rather use a smartphone from a company that actually sees me as a customer.

I think of Google kind of like the machine army in the Matrix movies and Android users as human batteries hooked up into the matrix.
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You're deluding yourself if you think Apple considers you any more or less a customer than Google does. Even more amusing is how personal people take these news stories as if it's an attack on them. Apple cares about your wallet. So does Google. Period.
 
broken1i said:
Copy? I love my iPhone but if Jobs wants to talk about theft then let's talk about the pull-down menu that was added to the recent iOS. He never gives elaborate credit to other companies i.e. Microsoft, Dropbox, Google, Samsung, HTC. His ego was too big for my liking, but that's what great entrepreneurs are made of I guess. And he's a Buddhist ironically.
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Pull down menu's can't be copied. Conceptually yes, but execution; no. The original G1 I owned had an awful and limp notification bar. Slow, sluggish, and didn't tell me the detail of information I wanted there and then.

As long as ideas aren't directly copied and improved upon, I see no problem Apple using the pull-down menu because IMHO, it works very well!

I can see why Jobs saw Android as the devil.
 
AppleMark said:
Er….. um…. [looks left]…..[looks right]…….

Yes! [runs and hides from the wrath of the Fanboy]..

I think not being able to use the entire Internet on an Internet browser is a real issue and one that I found and find particularly irksome. Especially in the early days of the iPhone and iPad and or course Safari!

Yes, a lot of (especially large corporate) websites have now updated to iPad and iPhone friendly versions.

However, I feel that this in itself is not just an issue Apple (Mr Jobs) had with Flash (Adobe..) but more with controlling industry standards.

HTML5 anybody?

No? :eek:

Well let’s see how long you are prepared to lose customers using the most advanced, sought after and fastest growing mobile Internet platform in the world.

Nothing wrong with that, as an aggressive business plan. Wish I had the gonads to make that kind of business decision.

Seen it all before with Apple and will see it all the time. Don’t we just love to hate that about them? :rolleyes:

I can imagine the board meeting now "The world can do without USB and Firewire."

Thunderbolt anybody....?'

Nothing new to see here, move along…..
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djrod said:
A lot of people said those things when Firefox came out, "I can't browse the full web, some websites are Internet explorer only!" and whose fault was that? Web designers/developers making bad choices. Nowadays that problem is gone as it would happen to this new one of flash.
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The issue of Flash cannot be compared to the browser wars.

In the instance of browsers, it was developers who made the choice to focus on the largest 'mainstream' (for want of a better word) platform in the infancy of the internet. But I do not see that this relates to the Flash issue.

Developers did not make bad choices, they were paying the rent! Why would they have focused their time and energy on what was then a very minority platform?

It was only the birth of the iPod and the rise of IOS products that followed that helped change this completely. Do you really think Apple would have the market share and be the household name it has now, it were just still making Macs and laptops?

The Flash issue differs completely, when you consider that it is not merely a subconscious incompatibility issue in the main. But the opposite, which is a total abandonment of an industry standard (Yes.. I know the official reasons).

Abandonment and incompatibility are not the same IMO. The abandonment was for reasons of control as well as the fact it did not work perhaps as well with IOS.

It is part of corporate life, take over this, take over that, make samsung pay.., destroy the android platform.......etc,etc :)
 
samcraig said:
You're deluding yourself if you think Apple considers you any more or less a customer than Google does. Even more amusing is how personal people take these news stories as if it's an attack on them. Apple cares about your wallet. So does Google. Period.
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I wouldn't say Google cared at all. Palm off the OS for nothing and snatch the rewards with plastering your phone with ads.

Apple and customers... the stores, the easy free 1 year cover, the friendly customer support. Of course business is about making money, but it's offering customers a sense of security and support.
 
Tunster said:
I wouldn't say Google cared at all. Palm off the OS for nothing and snatch the rewards with plastering your phone with ads.

Apple and customers... the stores, the easy free 1 year cover, the friendly customer support. Of course business is about making money, but it's offering customers a sense of security and support.
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Actually - I think (even though I am all Apple) I would trust the company who I knew what was going on behind the scenes over the company that was so secretive.

Fact is - everyone knows google is about advertising and information

Apple positions themselves as more stealth as evidence by some ignorance on this thread. Not you specifically - but Apple is all about control and keeping you 100 percent locked into their eco system. And it's a great eco system. But it comes with a cost.

As a Marketing and PR professional (over 20 years) - I have great admiration for Apple and Jobs. But that's a double edged sword because I also see their machinations clearly.

Again - both companies aren't good or evil. Both companies are businesses who are looking for your money. That's really the bottom line
 
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