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From Steve Jobs' Biography: "I'm going to destroy Android"
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Considering that iOS has the iAds platform built into the OS, I think what Tunster posted is a silly thing to post.
http://developer.apple.com/iad/
Before anyone cries foul, yes I know it doesn't display ads within the OS.
Yep. The worst ones are in game ads for Apps that I paid for. That just pisses me off.
How's everyone enjoying the Notification Center?
This thread demonstrates yet again exactly why Apple is now like every other group and the days of Think Different are long gone.
There is nothing wrong with Android (especially in expanding the use of smartphones and telecom choice) and it has some neat ideas and functionality - as Apple just proved with the latest version of iOS. Anyone who doesn't see that and can't admit it is really not a voice worth listening to. It's the exact same attitude that Mac users encounter from Windows users, so essentially both groups are now comprised of the exact same type of people. Thank you mainstream.
I've used Macs since the 80's and that doesn't stop me using Windows or Android. In fact it's thanks to Windows that the Mac has the longevity it does, because when Apple adopted PC hardware standards during the 90's it meant creative Apple users could take PC parts and fill the tech gaps that Apple didn't want to fill. Taking great PC parts and flashing them for Mac use was one of the things that extended the life of Apple's lackluster hardware in lieu of Apple support.
I love all technology and I love Apple products, but to paraphrase Sloan - "it's not the product I hate, it's their fans" - and threads like this just reinforce that.
If anyone still thinks different to the typical internet crowd, please raise your hand. There aren't many of us left.
Couldn't agree more. Apple made great computers when they were a more stable alternative to Windows PCs, and provided slightly better support than Linux. But ever since the iPhone came out, the apple fanboyism on this site has just gotten so irrational. The fanboyism alone is seriously turning me off of apple products.
The fanboy battlecry these days seems to be how innovative Apple is and how everyone else is copying. To be completely honest, Apple hasn't innovated all that much for a while now, other than putting things together in a pretty little package. It's a great package, but still.
I'm retracting my statements, as it seems that, even on MacRumors, saying anything positive about Apple will get an attack.
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How is iOS not utilitarian? Closed system, etc... Ya right! Android isn't going anywhere so Apple might as well get used to it.
Umm, no. Microsoft was not moving away from touchscreens at all. You might be confused by some of the Blackjack style phones that ATT liked to carry. Also, the hot trend was to add a physical keyboard to some touchscreen models so business users had the best of both worlds.
Windows Mobile phones had come in two versions for years: the "Smartphone" which had no touchscreen, and the "Professional" which did. (There was also a WinCE phone for industrial users like myself. It was far better because it had real IE in it, not the Pocket IE crap they forced on WinMo users.)
The touchscreen versions were already beginning to move to WVGA resolution, which allowed more space for large GUI buttons. The non-touch versions were trending towards looking like Blackberrys.
Right, which meant supporting both types, like WinMo. The first public Android demo showed both cursor and touch driven models. People only seem to remember the first kind.
Actually, in 2006 there were plenty of all touch designs floating around, such as the BenQ Black Box, and Nokia Aeon concepts, the Synaptics capacitive Onyx demo phone, and others. Samsung put out this touch gesture controlled phone in Aug 2006. This Linux phone announced plans to use multitouch and pinch-zoom, months before Apple did.
It seemed just a matter of time before one was put into production, which is undoubtedly why Apple felt pushed to announce theirs just before the yearly phone shows, months ahead of their sales launch. As it turned out, of course, Apple was actually ahead of everyone else in selling a well done fingers-only device.
Which ones? Obviously Google was able to turn on multitouch without infringing anything Apple had patented. (The Fingerworks patents had nothing to do with phone touchscreens.)
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Just wait until something new comes out. The time is coming when a brand new OS comes to the floor. Something will always be competing. As for Android. You'll have a few more good years, good luck after that.
If you read the article you linked - it would appear that Steve thought he knew better than anyone and everyone about every subject.
Not trying to start a political argument. I just thought it was an interesting view on Steve talking to the POTUS. I tried posting in the political forum but apparently I can't post in there for some reason. I hadn't seen it posted anywhere else though.
I did too. Apparently what I posted "offended" some of the posters here. 11 downvotes. LOL
The truth is often hard to hear/read. It's not like I made up the stuff - it's all in the book directly from the man himself.
this book is just going to be the sad, lonely ramblings of a senile old man, which will do nothing to help Apple or his own image apart from damage it.
the funny thing about the original quote, that he failed with every single point.
I suggest, people buy iCon from Amazon, gives the side of the story Steve wanted to ban.
The man's ego knew no bounds.
To quote Stallman..
I'm not glad he's dead but I'm glad he's gone.
the funny thing about the original quote, that he failed with every single point.
I suggest, people buy iCon from Amazon, gives the side of the story Steve wanted to ban.
The man's ego knew no bounds.
To quote Stallman..
I'm not glad he's dead but I'm glad he's gone.
That is from 15+ years ago, before he went back to Apple. He recanted on other things he said in that documentary.
T. S. Eliot: "Immature poets imitate. Mature poets steal. Bad poets deface what they take. Good poets make it into something better or different. A good poet welds his theft into a whole of feeling which is unique and utterly different than that from which it is torn."
Also, watch the entire clip to understand what Steve's really talking about.
And the recant is bs. It was only done so the calling other copy cats would not be hypocritical but let's face it Steve Jobs really believed what he said in the documentary.
Wow. This is way to prejudice. Apple fanboys are all over this site.
And I agree, the iPhone is better than android. But it's totally normal that companies are going to copy other companies. If this didn't happen there would be no competition. I mean, sure patents are there for a good reason, for incentive to innovate, and a company certainly shouldn't break the law and steal. But it seems to me that Apple is headed in the wrong direction, by monopolizing the smart phone market.
And they DID steal ideas from each other. I'm sure this comment will get thumbs down because of the ignorant apple fanboys.
Seriously, grow up. Don't get all love-y around apple. Just like any for-profit company out there, they're in it for the money - not to revolutionize the way we live or any of that bs. Go ahead, by an iPhone. But I'm warning you, if things keep going the way they are, innovation will slow, and you will be stuck with the best, worst, and only smart phone.
When everyone's super, no one will be.
And I agree, the iPhone is better than android. But it's totally normal that companies are going to copy other companies. If this didn't happen there would be no competition. I mean, sure patents are there for a good reason, for incentive to innovate, and a company certainly shouldn't break the law and steal. But it seems to me that Apple is headed in the wrong direction, by monopolizing the smart phone market.
And they DID steal ideas from each other. I'm sure this comment will get thumbs down because of the ignorant apple fanboys.
Seriously, grow up. Don't get all love-y around apple. Just like any for-profit company out there, they're in it for the money - not to revolutionize the way we live or any of that bs. Go ahead, by an iPhone. But I'm warning you, if things keep going the way they are, innovation will slow, and you will be stuck with the best, worst, and only smart phone.
When everyone's super, no one will be.
The book will divide audiences just like on this thread. Some will take from the book how brilliant Jobs was and how everything he did had purpose and was the right thing to do - no matter the costs, etc.
Others will take from the book that Jobs had issues and, like everyone on this planet, want not perfect and made mistakes.
And so on.
But based on the snippets already provided - it doesn't seem to paint Jobs (for me) in the best of light personality wise. But again - these could just be salacious teasers released to gain interest in the book (not that the book really needs much marketing)
THe is only trying to defend what they made great and google copied but couldn't even copy it properly to make a good knockoff.
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