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From Steve Jobs' Biography: "I'm going to destroy Android"

iVeBeenDrinkin' said:
I am tired of people whining about not getting a new design. The iPhone 4/4S is by far the best looking phone on the market.
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But it's not a whole new number so it's inferior. :D My wife and I are LOVING our new 4Ss!

The people complaining are the ones that just don't understand that IT'S NOT IPHONE 5'S TIME! People should've seen this coming — when the 3GS came out, it set the standard of release.

I like to look at it like this: I'm on the 2-year cycle to get the best of any particular model. I got the 4S which is the best of the that model. When the 5S comes out, I'll get it and it will be the best of the 5s. When the WHOLE NUMBERED iPhone comes out, I'll nod and appreciate how nice it is... and bide my time, knowing that I'll be getting the S model! The glass is half full, people!

Now that I think about it, the people who are complaining the loudest are the people that have a 4 and wanted the iPhone 5 because it was a chance to upgrade to something that looked better. They can't pull the trigger on a 4S because it's just only marginally better than what they have in their pocket (and the extra money they'd shell out because a 4S would be non-subsidized for them) — BUT — they also can't bare to see millions of people walking around with essentially the same phone that they have but that is only much better. They're probably talking trash about how SIRI is no big deal, too.
 
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iBug2 said:
Really? If Jobs thought that, maybe we'd still have the BB design as the default Smartphone and we'd be using mini keyboards with a miniball in the middle.

If you asked me, what would the future of mobile computing be, today, I'd answer, probably voice control. Make a better voice activated A.I. than Siri, so much better that it can do everything yo do, everything, using your voice. That is everything which doesn't require you to look at the phone.

If someone comes up with that, that'll be another paradigm shift in smartphones imho.
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No - because any OS that now uses some AI version of voice control will be stealing from Apple. At least from the point of view you have and others on this thread.
 
likemyorbs said:
Yes, and steve STOLE what he saw when xerox let him in for a tour. what's your point?
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Haven't read much of anything written in this thread I suppose. Steve didn't steal anything from Xerox. In return for the right to buy US$1,000,000 of pre-IPO stock, Xerox granted Apple Computer three days access to the PARC facilities.
 
4D4M said:
The iPhone won't be your next phone then. Apple worked out long ago what the optimum screen size is.
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After using the iPad as well as the 4 in Android phones, the 3.5 in screen doesn't feel right. It's too small when compared to the 4S' staunch competitors namely the Galaxy S II, HTC Sensation and the upcoming Nexus Prime.

The Nexus Prime blows all the phones mentioned (including the 4S) away. NFC, 720p screen, what can you ask more?

Disclaimer: I like Android phones but that doesn't mean I blatantly hate Apple, if I hate Apple I would've thrown out this MacBook I typed this with.

It appears that this thread have unleashed the fanboyishness of Apple fans. Let's say Nokia copied Apple with Symbian as their applications menu is a grid of icons. ;)
 
samcraig said:
No - because any OS that now uses some AI version of voice control will be stealing from Apple. At least from the point of view you have and others on this thread.
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Not really. Apple hasn't done it yet or isn't even remotely close that yet. So you wouldn't be stealing anything from Apple if you did that today.

Then again, maybe it's not possible today. Who knows. Or maybe there's another paradigm shift coming which won't be about voice A.I., but through a different interaction method, maybe holograms finally? :)
 
iBug2 said:
Google acquired Android in 2005, and they were developing it after iPhone was released. So Google was developing Android when Schmidt was sitting on the Apple board throughout 2005 to 2009.
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Except Schmidt joined Apple's board in August 2006, a full year after Google's acquisition of Rubin's Android startup, which dates back to 2003.
 
KnightWRX said:
Except Schmidt joined Apple's board in August 2006, a full year after Google's acquisition of Rubin's Android startup, which dates back to 2003.
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Yes and? They were still developing it when he was on the board. I never said they started developing it in 2006.
 
iBug2 said:
Yes and? They were still developing it when he was on the board. I never said they started developing it in 2006.
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Apple invited Eric knowing full well what Google was doing as it was publicly disclosed in 2005 when they purchased Android.

But you make a good point, who cares ? People never really can tell you what Android copied from iOS. It always ends up being some kind of hardware feature. Android is software.
 
iBug2 said:
Haven't read much of anything written in this thread I suppose. Steve didn't steal anything from Xerox. In return for the right to buy US$1,000,000 of pre-IPO stock, Xerox granted Apple Computer three days access to the PARC facilities.
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Yes i have a life so i didn't read through 31 pages of comments. The point is, if apple expected to be the only one in the touch screen smart phone game, then that's just naive.
 
KnightWRX said:
Apple invited Eric knowing full well what Google was doing as it was publicly disclosed in 2005 when they purchased Android.

But you make a good point, who cares ? People never really can tell you what Android copied from iOS. It always ends up being some kind of hardware feature. Android is software.
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Stop with all these crazy things that are facts. They have no business here ;)
 
iBug2 said:
When Google bought Android they were not doing anything that could compete with iPhone. Android before iPhone looked a lot like BB interface, which obviously wouldn't have caused much issues with Apple, since BB wasn't their property. But after iPhone Android project was rebooted to imitate iPhone rather than BB, that is what pissed Jobs.
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I'm sorry, this is getting boring. AGAIN: The first Android phone on sale was the G1. Go and look at the thing and tell me how that looks like BB OS.

There are pictures earlier in this thread.
 
iBug2 said:
When Google bought Android they were not doing anything that could compete with iPhone. Android before iPhone looked a lot like BB interface, which obviously wouldn't have caused much issues with Apple, since BB wasn't their property. But after iPhone Android project was rebooted to imitate iPhone rather than BB, that is what pissed Jobs.
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But the problem wasn't that Google entered the phone market?

Now is when they changed from a BBesque to a iPhonesque phone?

Ahhhh
 
likemyorbs said:
The point is, if apple expected to be the only one in the touch screen smart phone game, then that's just naive.
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Steve Jobs was only naive to think that a friend whom he had invited to sit on Apple's Board wouldn't stab him in the back. Schmidt was a snake for doing what he did.


GiantSteve said:
Really, to think that any product isn't derivative in some ways of other products, seems irrational. Certainly Jobs deserved to be proud of everything the iPhone accomplished and to be peeved that there was a strong competitor who used some of its ideas. But rather that accept that competition would help drive Apple to make an even better product, the quote as expressed seems kind of like jousting at windmills. I am sure more context in the book will cast this incident in a somewhat different light.
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Well said and the Quixote reference was subtle but effective — however — you're wrong. Apple liked CoverFlow, they BOUGHT IT. Apple loved the mouse, they LICENSED IT. Apple wanted Multi-touch patents, they BOUGHT THEM. When you don't innovate, you pull your checkbook out and get what you want. I think Apple has done this enough times for us to know that's how they roll. And it's not jousting at windmills, ... Apple has won its fair share of litigation. Lost some, too. But it's the game. You feel you've ripped off, you take 'em to court!
 
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iBug2 said:
Yes and? They were still developing it when he was on the board. I never said they started developing it in 2006.
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No, but you did say:

Schmidt was sitting on the Apple board throughout 2005 to 2009.
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When in fact he joined the Apple board in 2006.

These dates are important if you are trying to make them relevant to some fictitious point you are making.

You reckon he joined Apple's board without having to sign any kind of NDA?
 
Well... to be surprised, if this quote is true, then I'm surprised Jobs didn't do more to really try and destroy Android. I mean think about it, iOS as MUCH more potential than it's current manifestation. While iOS 5 is pretty sweet... Apple could have done much more with it if they really wanted to "destroy" Android. Oh well. I like healthy competition. In fact, it's very important to have competition...
 
Really funny to see some of these responses. I guess that is what you get in a mac forum! haha

By the way, little ol' apple isn't exactly innocent either. They steal stuff all the time, they just have deep pockets and great lawyers.
 
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