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From Steve Jobs' Biography: "I'm going to destroy Android"
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We miss his passion and now Christopher Hitchens is also gone of cancer and he had passion to spare. 
Still reading the biography and its just incredible the stuff in it. I also love the one about how he did presentations which is steve all the way.
Still reading the biography and its just incredible the stuff in it. I also love the one about how he did presentations which is steve all the way.
I have an iPhone, an Android phone, a Mac and a PC. I like the Mac over the PC (which is ten years old, so no wonder) and the Android over the iPhone. The bigger screen, and drag / drop files via my choice of bluetooth or wifi without using iTunes is pretty nice. iOS5 finally brought wireless sync, but it still has to run through iTunes, and isn't as slick as Android.
So, no... Android isn't destroying Android at all. It has seemed to inspire Apple to improve the iPhone slowly but surely, on the other hand.
My take on the status of things today is:
PC>Mac
Android>iPhone
iPad>other tablets
PCs with Win7 is more stable than OSX, and happen to cost a lot less on top of it. I'm still on Snow Leopard, but lots of people I know are bummed about buggy Lion.
iOS5 is about even with Android on complaints I've seen first hand, but Android phones are easier to deal with if you know how both systems work. If you're new to technology, then iPhones are probably more simple when you have battery. My Android lasts 3x longer with heavy use, and 5x longer if I just let both sit unused.
I have no tablets of any kind, but from what I can tell, Apple wins there so far.
Android will not be destroyed by Apple today, nor tomorrow. I think only something better than Android will destroy Android. Apple isn't it, yet... and at the rate they fix iOS, it won't be soon.
So, no... Android isn't destroying Android at all. It has seemed to inspire Apple to improve the iPhone slowly but surely, on the other hand.
My take on the status of things today is:
PC>Mac
Android>iPhone
iPad>other tablets
PCs with Win7 is more stable than OSX, and happen to cost a lot less on top of it. I'm still on Snow Leopard, but lots of people I know are bummed about buggy Lion.
iOS5 is about even with Android on complaints I've seen first hand, but Android phones are easier to deal with if you know how both systems work. If you're new to technology, then iPhones are probably more simple when you have battery. My Android lasts 3x longer with heavy use, and 5x longer if I just let both sit unused.
I have no tablets of any kind, but from what I can tell, Apple wins there so far.
Android will not be destroyed by Apple today, nor tomorrow. I think only something better than Android will destroy Android. Apple isn't it, yet... and at the rate they fix iOS, it won't be soon.
I don't think Steve was talking in the context of the iPhone destroying Android phones due to user interface and being a better product.
I think he was talking in the context of, "They copied what we created so I want them to die." Hence those words were probably spoken very early in Android's lifecycle as the OP indicates he met with Google's CEO soon after.
In fact, Samsung is already making a new voice assistant. Guess what it's called! You guess right: S.I.R.I
*I don't remember what the letters stand for, some guy posted this on Appleinsider.*
In fact, Samsung is already making a new voice assistant. Guess what it's called! You guess right: S.I.R.I
*I don't remember what the letters stand for, some guy posted this on Appleinsider.*
Samsung Intelligent Response Integration.
Don't think I've ever heard something more ignorant come out of an Apple fanboys mouth. And that's saying something.
I own a 4S(just putting it out there so I don't get called a "Fandroid") but still can't help but admire Android and ICS in particular(Was close to getting the Galaxy Nexus but the wait was killing me), Blackberry's(Their keyboards still blow any virtual keyboard out of the water), and Windows Phone(Mango was a great update and the UI itself is gorgeous with tons of potential).
Saying all that. You're an embarrassment.
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Apple drones are like dumb, ignorant religious people, and Android folks are like Christopher Hitchens (RIP, even though Hitchens would laugh at the term RIP).
Apple drones getting Hitchslapped constantly.
Andreas Ramos's view on Android vs. Apple
Many analysts see a rising trend in 2012 in favor of Android due to more openness and choice. International author Andreas Ramos saw Steve Jobs many times in Palo Alto and basically predicts Android completely dominating Apple soon:
"Google Android has seized market share. The same will happen with the iPad. Jobs invented a number of new markets, but his limited business sense and irrational decisions allowed others take over those markets. The strategy of total control is a plan for failure."
He also sees Bill Gates as having more to do with Apple's success than Steve Jobs:
"So, what can we learn from the Book of Jobs? It's a great story to read. A major Hollywood movie is in the works. The comic book version is out. But when you read the book, you'll realize he wasn't much as a person and in business he was too erratic. There's nothing to learn there."
For the full post, see here:
http://www.andreas.com/steve-jobs.html
Many analysts see a rising trend in 2012 in favor of Android due to more openness and choice. International author Andreas Ramos saw Steve Jobs many times in Palo Alto and basically predicts Android completely dominating Apple soon:
"Google Android has seized market share. The same will happen with the iPad. Jobs invented a number of new markets, but his limited business sense and irrational decisions allowed others take over those markets. The strategy of total control is a plan for failure."
He also sees Bill Gates as having more to do with Apple's success than Steve Jobs:
"So, what can we learn from the Book of Jobs? It's a great story to read. A major Hollywood movie is in the works. The comic book version is out. But when you read the book, you'll realize he wasn't much as a person and in business he was too erratic. There's nothing to learn there."
For the full post, see here:
http://www.andreas.com/steve-jobs.html
I see this particular claim all the time from those that use BB's or have for any length of time, and I have to disagree. The keyboard is no better than any modern software based keyboard that is decently spaced out. All it takes is forced time of acceptance by the end user - I usually gestate 3mths of daily use of SMS+Email without switching devices.
The ONLY thing BB's keyboards have over ANY other product (manufacturer or OS) is the plethora of keyboard shortcuts! That is all. Previously AutoText was unique but with Shortcuts in iOS5, no longer.
PS: I've used BB's since the 8700r (Rogers) debuted until the 9700 without changing systems as my main device (except for Nokia E71 7mths & N85 for 3mths when they debuted). I still troubleshoot BB's via BES for the past 6yrs, along with a cloud based MDM for Droid/iOS.
"Openness?"
Google's Andy Ruben Deletes Post Touting Android as Open
http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/12/28/rubin.downplays.android.openness.in.post.removal/
Thanks for the laugh.
"Openness?"
Google's Andy Ruben Deletes Post Touting Android as Open
http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/12/28/rubin.downplays.android.openness.in.post.removal/
Thanks for the laugh.
Biggest non story of the year.
http://www.slashgear.com/andy-rubin-didnt-delete-his-october-2010-definition-of-open-tweet-30205025/
Amazing to see how something so insugificant (a missing tweet) can be twisted into something big.
"Openness?"
Google's Andy Ruben Deletes Post Touting Android as Open
http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/12/28/rubin.downplays.android.openness.in.post.removal/
Thanks for the laugh.
Andy Rubin Didn’t Delete “Open” Tweet, Twitter Lost It, Then Found It
http://parislemon.com/post/14991930955/andy-rubin-didnt-delete-open-tweet-twitter-lost-it
"still sets license requirements" -> False
"won't take contributed code from outside sources" Yes, it takes, after review
"gives selective early access to companies like Motorola or Samsung" -> What has to do with being open?
"lock the bootloader to prevent custom firmware" -> False
"prevent users from uninstalling some apps" -> False
Thanks for the laughs
Is electronista.com, you can expect that and more
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The only smartphone I had used prior to getting my 4S were all sorts of Blackberrys. The only thing I miss from them is having that physical keyboard. Even the Pearl's unique keyboard(Can't remember what they call it now) was better then any virtual keyboard.
Once again, like every other post you can easily be proven totally wrong. I doubt that even the most rabid and devoted apple cult members would really believe that android is "on the chopping block".
http://m.tgdaily.com/mobility-brief/60454-37-million-android-activations-over-christmas
It was a very Merry Christ
mas for Google's mobile operating system this year.
As Google's Android head Andy Rubin wrote on Google+, "There were 3.7M Android activations on 12/24 and 12/25. Congrats team-Android!"
While Rubin didn't break down how many of those were on Christmas Eve and how many came on Christmas Day, there's no doubt that at least one of those days set a new Android activation record.
The rate at which new Android-powered phones and tablets are being activated has grown 40% in just six months. Earlier this month, Google made waves by saying that more than 700,000 Android devices were being activated on a daily basis.
But for the two big holiday dates that number was doubled.
Of note, Android activations refer only to when a brand new device is taken online for the first time, so that number doesn't even include any used phones that might have been gifted over the weekend.
Mobile analytics group Flurry said the number of iOS and Android devices activated, combined, reached 6.8 million on December 25. Of course one would expect Christmas to be perhaps the biggest activation day of the year, it's worth noting that is more than double the number of activations on Christmas Day last year.
What's so dang terrible about fragmentation anyway? Android is a pretty nice base if you decide to start your own mobile/embedded OS and don't have billions of dollars to sink into R&D like Apple does. Linux makes a great base for embedded OSes, thanks to its endless flexibility, but it does take significant R&D to make a usable phone out of it. Thus Android!
I can sum up iOS vs. Android in one sentence.
"Two distinctly different platforms, providing variety and choices."
It's very interesting how threatened, or worried, or just plain narrow minded many iPhone users are over the fact that Android exists. That they will go to great lengths pointing out Androids shortcomings all in an effort to discredit and condemn it, says more about the authors of such posts, than the actual Pro's & Con's of the Android platform.
Exacerbating this unique behavior which seems so irrational, is the fact that the iPhone is already so hugely successful & profitable one wonders why these Apple advocates dedicate so much of their time & focus on bashing Android.
If these same people were as confident in the iPhone as they pretend to be, they surely wouldn't waste time posting hundreds, possibly thousands of threads just to attack the competition.
I speak from first hand experience with every model of iPhone since day one, and over ten top of the line Androids since they were released.
Results?
I find them both equally enjoyable, since I choose to focus on each platforms strengths and overlook their shortcomings because there is _no_ perfect phone.
Oh sure, I share my iPhone issues here so Apple can obtain feedback, and other users can compare their experiences. I do the same with Android on my forum of choice for that platform.
At the end of the day, I've been a very loyal, happy and consistent Apple customer for twenty years. My passion does favor the computers they build, even though I use both Windows & Mac at work & home. If I had to choose one it would be Apple.
That's my take on it. I have great enthusiasm for all things tech. My three favorite Macs that are current or 2010 models, are my MBA's, MBP's, and Mac Pro.
"Two distinctly different platforms, providing variety and choices."
It's very interesting how threatened, or worried, or just plain narrow minded many iPhone users are over the fact that Android exists. That they will go to great lengths pointing out Androids shortcomings all in an effort to discredit and condemn it, says more about the authors of such posts, than the actual Pro's & Con's of the Android platform.
Exacerbating this unique behavior which seems so irrational, is the fact that the iPhone is already so hugely successful & profitable one wonders why these Apple advocates dedicate so much of their time & focus on bashing Android.
If these same people were as confident in the iPhone as they pretend to be, they surely wouldn't waste time posting hundreds, possibly thousands of threads just to attack the competition.
I speak from first hand experience with every model of iPhone since day one, and over ten top of the line Androids since they were released.
Results?
I find them both equally enjoyable, since I choose to focus on each platforms strengths and overlook their shortcomings because there is _no_ perfect phone.
Oh sure, I share my iPhone issues here so Apple can obtain feedback, and other users can compare their experiences. I do the same with Android on my forum of choice for that platform.
At the end of the day, I've been a very loyal, happy and consistent Apple customer for twenty years. My passion does favor the computers they build, even though I use both Windows & Mac at work & home. If I had to choose one it would be Apple.
That's my take on it. I have great enthusiasm for all things tech. My three favorite Macs that are current or 2010 models, are my MBA's, MBP's, and Mac Pro.
I never got why people said "Android has fragmentation" iOS does too. Only one iPhone will use two cores, and only one iPhone has the A4 processor.
The 3GS has the slowest processor, the iPhone 4 only uses one core, the iPhone 4S is the only one to use two cores.
And they all run iOS 5.
Now tell me, does that sound fragmented?
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Why do others dedicate so much of their time & focus on bashing Apple? And Apple owners?
Why are rotten apple drones so obsessed with Samsung?
Maybe because they love samsung deep in their heart and obviously know every single Samsung phone products have been raping iphones, and the only way to express their feeling is to post whatever negative about the company so they don't have to be believe themselves to be hypocrites.
Sad excuse of people, really.
Your question reveals the facts. They may compare & contrast the Pros & Con's of iOS & Android, yet they bash Apple (not iOS) and the cult like segment of users because of their never ending arrogance, narcism & position as superior humans. A deliberately crafted culture, created and modeled by Steve Jobs. It's what makes Apple such a polarizing company within the tech sector.
It's as simple as that.
Probably because we don't have to deal with stuff like this on a daily basis.
Windows Emergency Update Live Today: Are You Patched?
http://www.slashgear.com/windows-emergency-update-live-today-are-you-patched-30205059/
I don't miss my days running Windows on my crappy VAIO laptop. Oh wait, that's why I installed Linux on it. At least that was an upgrade on the software side, the hardware was still junk and doesn't even come close to the build quality of my MBP's.