Full Details of iPhone 12 Lineup Allegedly Leaked Ahead of Next Week's Apple Event

[DeepIn2U]

Why does that matter? This is already the most expensive iPhone ever. Oh right, then they can raise the prices again for the 13. Youre going to be paying $1500 for an iPhone soon. Apple had better tread very carefully. There is a ton of competition and they can easily drop off if they continue this greed and arrogance.

mom very curious as to which phone model you currently have and which one you’ve had before. How long you owned the previous model and how long did it take to uodate to the latest OS and features when officially announced? Did that last part affect part of your decision to upgrade?

Android still tends to suffer performance lag over a few short months of use before a reboot va iOS from what I’ve been reading across XDA forums even for models released just last year running Android 9 or 10.

 

[DeepIn2U]

Ive been a pro photographer for 15 years. I promise you I understand megapixels. Sure, 12 to 16 is no real difference, but 12 to 108? Please. There is a very noticeable difference in those photos. Yea, I do want a larger sensor, Apple is way behind the completion there too. Most are using 1/1.33" sensors while Apple is stuck on tiny 1/2.55" sensors. Let me know when Apple can at least match the competition in sensor size. They have giant phones, no reason they cant.

im curious just how clean your images are using 108 pixels on your Note20 is vs Sony Xperia 1 mark II ; given the respective software available on each which either ships with.

 

[SteveJUAE]

when light transmission is increased, it literally means more light is hitting the sensor compared to setups with less light transmission. i am understanding light transmission accurately.

however if you saying the article is wrong that more elements DO NOT mean increased light transmission rate then alright. that’ll knock down tomsguide’s accuracy from my perspective

I think it's poor use of wording in the article

I do not profess to understand lens optics by any large means but adding multiple elements does not magically increase your F stop equivalent ie more light getting through

In my simple understanding It's more to do with transmission of the different spectrum frequencies that travel at different speeds, if you align these speeds (transmission) the image will be sharper more in focus and correction for distortion, chromatic aberration etc

Theoretically the more glass elements you add the more light is obscured so you have to use better lens and coatings etc to counter this

That's about the limit of my expertise and I may of even used poor terminology myself lol but this is not about increased light is my understanding

Some lens have 22 elements and have worse results than others that have 5, so the proof is in the testing and not necessarily more is always better

 

[venom600]

If I'm reading this correctly, effectively the only difference between the 12 and the 12 Pro is the camera and body material. At the same capacity they will likely be only $100 apart in price... so why would anyone get the 12 at all?

 

[Chaka Jon]

I’ve been waiting too. I have 4 Tiles that have needed re-Tiling for 6 months. I am (patiently) waiting to see what Apple has come up with.

We’ve been hearing about these damn AirTag things for over a year now. 🙄

I want the AirTags!

Don't tell me the board rejected the idea, we know they have been in the most advanced stages of final testing.

 

[troy14]

I just want the smallest iPhone with the best hardware available 😞

 

[Michael Scrip]

I just want the smallest iPhone with the best hardware available 😞

What if it's only the 2nd best?

I mean.... the iPhone 12 Mini with the A14 processor and a 2020 camera will still be very good.

It's kinda difficult to be mad at that.

 

[4jasontv]

I understand but which kind of apps? The only AR stuff I used was some simulation to put Ikea furniture at home. To be honest, it's fun and useful at some point, but it's not so important to me.

I agree with you that with some glasses, it would be much different. For example having the maps directions while driving a bicycle will be amazing.

Think "instruction manuals that can figure out where you are in the process", except for living things. Right now I have it on HoloLens 2 and iPads, but those aren't viable platforms for what I want to use it for.

 

[bobob]

Is anyone else a little bummed to have to buy the big phone in order to get the best camera?

Why can't I get a full cargo bed in my new subcompact car?!?


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Check out this brainless reply to this post. 😂

 

[polyphenol]

Umm, hello. Its 2020, hi, welcome. Its not 2009 with slow and buggy Android OS named after desserts that crash constantly. Android has come a long way and completely dominates with 75% marketshare compared to iOS's 24%. You really think 2.5 BILLION Android users are just putting up with a crap OS? Times have changed...

I do use Android on two tablets. Both fell out of support far too quickly. One was sold with 6 and updated to 8 - then no more. (It did have some security update in April this year.) The other has received 10. But it took around nine months to get there. And I am sure that will be that (though maybe, hopefully, a few security updates).

(Yes, I do know tablets are not phones.)

Samsung seem to have moved to 36-months of updates for all Galaxy phones and tablets. Microsoft have announced three years of updates for their Surface Duo.

My five-year-old 6s is on IOS 14.0.1.

Given the price premium of Apple, 2.5 billion Android users might simply not be able to afford IOS rather than a positive choice. Or not willing to pay that much. (I see Android phones available, new, at less than GBP 100. A new cheapie Android phone every year for five years would still be cheaper than an entry point IOS phone.)

Why, for some purposes I'd go Android. Like a phone to leave in the car for emergencies.

 

[polyphenol]

I think it's poor use of wording in the article

Yes - and the unusual term "light transmission rate".

 

[polyphenol]

If I'm reading this correctly, effectively the only difference between the 12 and the 12 Pro is the camera and body material. At the same capacity they will likely be only $100 apart in price... so why would anyone get the 12 at all?

Another part of the rumour has 6GB memory in the Pro, 4GB in the non-Pro. I've read every combination of possibilities!

Given some of the earlier speculation about memory, is it possible that the memory in the Pro models will actually be faster?

 

[Ntombi]

I hope there’s a (Product)RED 12 Pro to go with the series 6 Watch.

 

[rdy0329]

Likelihood of any of current models continuing at lower price?

iPhone 11 (Aluminum) will take the pricing of XR which is still a great value for what you get.

 

[rdy0329]

Even though it will be interesting how this plays out.

Right now it is:
SE 399 (A13)
XR 599 (A12)
11 699 (A13)

If now they have:

SE 399 (A13)

12 5.4 699 (A14)
12 6.1 799 (A14)

They could just drop the price of the 11 to 599, which would be weird, as a 6.1 phone is cheaper than a 5.4 phone, and it seems that cameras stay roughly the same. Or they'll keep the XR and lower it's price by another 50, so XR for 549 then, but it has only a single lens and 2 generations older processor.

not weird. Display tech and processor are major reasons for being more expensive. Look at the iPad lineup

 

[JM]

Acording to Speedtest, in the Chicago area only T-Mobile has rolled out 5G so far. At this time there is no reason to get a 5G phone. So I'm left either ordering an iPhone 12 Mini which will probably be $799 for 128GB or perhaps a iPhone SE with 256GB (which is what I really need) for $549. Neither leaves me fully satisfied and I'll have to ponder paying $250 more to get a better camera yet not enough storage. This makes me a very frustrated Apple customer. Why does Apple continue to add $100 for each bump up in memory size when you can buy the same size memory at retail for $20 or less? For Apple the cost is probably a few bucks. Christ, memory is almost as cheap as insulin or water and Apple continues to make it a heafty proposition. Frankly, I will probably just replace the battery in my perfectly fine iPhone 7. At least that way my disfatistaction will cost me less than $100.

"at least that way my dissatisfaction will cost me less than $100"
I haven't come across a better argument for buying the SE after they announce the 12's 😄 I'm feeling the same way after this leak of a 64 GB $699 mini.

 

[The Game 161]

If I'm reading this correctly, effectively the only difference between the 12 and the 12 Pro is the camera and body material. At the same capacity they will likely be only $100 apart in price... so why would anyone get the 12 at all?

It’s 200 not 100 from the sounds

799 compared to 999

 

[meady100]

I don't expect it, but I expect them to at least try. Keeping the same notch for 4 iterations in a row? That is seriously weak. For the Biggest company in the history of all known life in the every expanding universe to have the same annoying notch for 4 phones in a row... It's unacceptable!

But I'll quite possibly get one... damn me! But only for the larger size...

Doesn't unacceptable mean the opposite to getting one?! 😂

 

[venom600]

It’s 200 not 100 from the sounds

799 compared to 999

That's for the 64GB 12 compared to the 128GB 12 pro. If you get a 128GB 12, you're paying $899.

 

[satchmo]

iPhone 11 (Aluminum) will take the pricing of XR which is still a great value for what you get.

Does Apple typically keep the previous gen flagship iPhone Pro model around? Or just the regular iPhone.

 

[one more]

Not so enthusiastic about the rumoured pricing of the smallest iPhone Mini (5.4”). If the rumoured price of 699$ is correct, which corresponds to the current price of iPhone 11 64GB, then we can expect them to cost starting from around 800€ in Europe. And this is the cheapest and smallest model of the iPhone 12 line-up. The rest of them are going to be even more expensive, despite lacking the power adapter and EarPods in the box. I am lucky to be able to afford it, if needed, however I am not sure I will get any massive quality leap from my current iPhone 11, except for the OLED screen. To see...

 

[one more]

Does Apple typically keep the previous gen flagship iPhone Pro model around? Or just the regular iPhone.

iPhone 11 is not really a flagship, so should still be there, probably taking the current XR spot.

 

[MountainApple]

Having a hard time justifying upgrading from 11 pro.

Why would you even want to upgrade from the 11 Pro? The 12 Pro will be bigger, with little improvement it seems (other than 5G). If I were you I'd sit this one out...

 

[one more]

Does anyone know if the Apple store allows for returns of iphones? If I buy 1 small and 1 big? Can I return a used iPhone when bought from the Apple Store?

Sure, you still get your 14 days return window as usual, no questions asked. 🖐

 

[Mr Lizard]

Why are someone's guesses interesting so close to the launche date?

Because they’re not guesses. The leaker has an almost unparalleled level of accuracy based on past leaks, so there is almost no chance that these specs are wrong.

If knowing the specs wasn’t important then Apple wouldn’t bother holding a launch event to talk about them.
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Why would you even want to upgrade from the 11 Pro? The 12 Pro will be bigger, with little improvement it seems (other than 5G). If I were you I'd sit this one out...

Entirely subjective, depending on what’s important to you. For me, having a longer optical zoom matters. Based on these specs, that makes the 12 a no brainier upgrade for me.