Full Laptop Refresh By Holidays?
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ShadowHunter
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You know, I'm kinda in a grumpy mood, so I apologize ahead of time.
Y'all need to get a life. I'm as hopeful as the next guy for Merom lappies, but seriously....we've turned a passion about an elite line of products into some sort of religious obsession.
Every day Apple is becoming larger and more corporate. The traditional idea of Tuesdays and large product announcements for what 90% of the buying public consider minor updates are probably on their way out. Calculating release dates against earnings reports? Stating Apple is just completely behind the times over a couple of weeks time period (name me one vendor that is shipping MASS Merom-equipped devices? Aside from a select few, most reports and shipping times I've seen almost leaves Merom in near vapor-ware territory right now.)? Get real and go outside. Find a pretty girl, seek God, hang out with a buddy, whatever floats your boat.....just step away from your computer.
Y'all need to get a life. I'm as hopeful as the next guy for Merom lappies, but seriously....we've turned a passion about an elite line of products into some sort of religious obsession.
Every day Apple is becoming larger and more corporate. The traditional idea of Tuesdays and large product announcements for what 90% of the buying public consider minor updates are probably on their way out. Calculating release dates against earnings reports? Stating Apple is just completely behind the times over a couple of weeks time period (name me one vendor that is shipping MASS Merom-equipped devices? Aside from a select few, most reports and shipping times I've seen almost leaves Merom in near vapor-ware territory right now.)? Get real and go outside. Find a pretty girl, seek God, hang out with a buddy, whatever floats your boat.....just step away from your computer.
I agree
I agree. I'm going to abandon this thread. Have fun waiting. I'll get one whenever.
Tonite I am getting laid. Heading over to the C2D bar and waiting for this really hot chick to show up. I read about her on the internet. I think her name is Merom.
Neuroguy
I agree. I'm going to abandon this thread. Have fun waiting. I'll get one whenever.
Tonite I am getting laid. Heading over to the C2D bar and waiting for this really hot chick to show up. I read about her on the internet. I think her name is Merom.
Neuroguy
ShadowHunter said:
Do you really think we sit at our computers all day awaiting this release? While it's nice to check when I'm on the computer, I don't sit at home all day refreshing that Apple Store page, and I'm sure we all have lives. We're just having fun here to pass the time, please don't take the fun out of it.
Buhbuhb
macrumors member
ShadowHunter said:
I agree with you. Although technology can/ does get obssessive at times... sometimes you do need to rethink where you're investing your time & energy into. Although it may appear that nobody has lives here, I think a large majority of the people who post here do so in a fleeting fashion. It can easily seem that many do not have lives due to the "large-ness" of this post. Once I finally get my first Apple computer I intend to just enjoy it to death for a good 3-4 years ahead, until then I'll check semi-regularly due to my unquenched thirst for a new MBP refresh (No matter what it actually is going to be at this point).
macman2790
macrumors 6502a
i second that. he's a little grumpy just like he said.chris07 said:
fishoutofagua
macrumors newbie
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is the core 2 duo processor going to make that much of a difference in the macbooks/macbook pros. i'm planning on buying a regular macbook. is it worth the wait?
is the core 2 duo processor going to make that much of a difference in the macbooks/macbook pros. i'm planning on buying a regular macbook. is it worth the wait?
AvSRoCkCO1067
macrumors 65816
fishoutofagua said:
no.
Buhbuhb said:
Second. We've gotten way over our heads in this whole Core 2 Duo thing. I've been waiting for these notebooks to come out since my birthday in mid-July. Obviously, we can wait and wait until our faces turn blue. But don't think if you order a Macbook or Macbook Pro right now that it won't be a great machine!
I say the new motto should be, "Buy when you need it and wait WITH PATIENCE when you don't."
azzurri000
macrumors 6502
aaronb said:
What's the old motto?!
AppliedVisual
macrumors 6502a
Multimedia said:
Yeah, probably so... I suppose I was just being hopeful. But NAB does make more sense for that.
macman2790
macrumors 6502a
i'm surprised that nobody is saying the infamous line "I can feel that it's gonna happen tomorrow morning!"
AppliedVisual
macrumors 6502a
Butthead said:
I wouldn't be surprised if we see DDR3 shipping with 800MHz Merom within the next 6 to 8 months. It makes a hell of a lot more sense than pushing 800MHz DDR2 for mobile use. DDR3 consumes less power and generates less heat. Manufacturing cost is somewhat irrelevent as it's not new technology and prices would only be high for the initial introductory period as production quantities are ramped up. There is no indication yet whether or not Crestline combined with the upcoming 800MHz C2D chips will allow for DDR3 support. If Intel restricts them only to DDR2, then that's terribly foolish of them.
But what do I know... After all you're the expert, referencing all these big hardware sites who get their predictions wrong 80% of the time. Intel has yet to go public with a full spec sheet for Crestline and the Santa Rosa platform and they have made no commitments on delivery dates. What if we get an interim release of a mobile Napa64? What if Crestline is early and only gets replaced next April/May with yet another update?
AppliedVisual
macrumors 6502a
Butthead said:
Of course there's problems, never said there wasn't. All I was saying is that many PC vendors are waiting for these drives to actually be somewhat reliable. Currently they're too unreliable and too expensive to even be considered as an optional component. My guess is that Apple is waiting too.. And they will probably continue to wait for better drive options and for their software updates to support them.
Butthead said:
I can't comment on FCP 3 -- never owned/used it until FCP 5. As for 5, works just fine, no complaints. Did everything I needed right from the start except I had to figure a few work arounds for 1080p24, which is now supported just fine as well. For video work, I switched from using Vegas, Fusion, Ecncore, Acid and AE over to Final Cut Studio, Shake. The only app I miss is Acid, but I still use it now and then, it's not like I threw it away. I had to go to a different software solution because of the HVX200 camera and I was sick of dealing with the hodgepodge worklfow I had. I demoed plenty of solutions, including various offerings from Avid. The only software on the PC I considered in the end was Edius Pro as it has the best support for MXF and great DVCPROHD performance, but it just lacked a lot of features I needed and didn't solve the hodgepodge problem. Since then, other PC solutions have come to light, but I'm happy with the current solution, especially given the price. If I were a big-time DP or producer, I would go for one of the larger Avid solutions, but I've got other things to spend my money on since video is only a portion of what I do.
Butthead said:
Yeah, I did read your links... They were either outdated news or product announcments, nothing much to do with what the situation is right now. Who cares if Panasonic has shown a slot-load, slimline prototype... So has Sony, Pioneer and Samsung. Actually, the Samsung slot-loader will hit the market first, but I'll believe it when I see it. None of them will be capable of writing dual-layer media in this first generation. The current Sony tray-load drive they're using in their Vaio notebooks tends to burns more coasters than any other optical drive in history, and not just BD media, but DVD media as well... I've known two people to buy these systems and I've seen enough forum complaints to steer me away for now. Of the two people I know who bought one when they first released, one could never get a BD disc to write, Sony replaced the drive once and then replaced the entire notebook and still no luck. So he sent it back. The other's system wouldn't write BD or DVD discs and wouldn't play BluRay movie titles back properly. Sony swapped out the system for him and the burner appears to work just fine. Actually Sony was pretty cool and gave him a 10 pack of BD media for free with the swap, customer service told him that their return rate on the notebooks with the BluRay super multi drive is about 50%. Other than Sony championing their own product, what system vendor would want to deal with that?
I'm not anti-BluRay or anything, but so far the whole BluRay "launch" is a complete joke. In the end, I'm sure it will win the format "war", but the hardware just isn't ready for prime time yet.
Butthead said:
Yeah, they will drop in price as demand increases. I just can't believe the amount of problems that BluRay is experiencing. The product launch is a disaster and it seems to be affecting every BluRay device manufacturer... None seem to be able to release players that were originally supposed to be released last spring/early summer. Samsung pushes a complete turd onto the market and has yet to offer up a fix or a revised model. The Sony burners are plagued with AACS issues that they can't seem to resolve, even with the recent firmware update to the dual-layer burner. The slimline notebook burner has QC issues that would make any OEM customer run away screaming.
FWIW, Toshiba isn't doing much better with HD-DVD... And to top it all off, they're now becoming arrogant and over confident in light of BluRay's continued stumbling. The next round of players are being dumbed-down from the current HD-[X]A1. The [X]A2 update actually removes features from the A2 and leaves the MSRP at $499 while the XA2 gains HDMI 1.3, 1080P output and some other goodies, but they push the MSRP all the way up to $1099. But at the rate BluRay is going, Toshiba will have second generation players on the market before Sony ships the BDP-S1, which is now on indefinite hiatus.
Sorry to go off-tangent, but it's really hard to get excited over BluRay and HD-DVD right now with the state of the industry.
Butthead said:One thing for sure, this thread is rehashing everything over and over to the tune of nearly 100-posts/day, if they don't come out with a simple speed bump a la iMac with just the C2D, then by the end of November this thread my well be the longest ever on MR
Yep....
And we start all over again for this week beginning tomorrow. After all tomorrow (oh, wait, it's midnight Cupertino time), so I mean today is yet another disappointing Tuesday.
AppliedVisual
macrumors 6502a
generik said:The other brand is Dell. Dell sells more computers in a day than Apple does in a quarter, so it is not like a few million batteries will hurt them all that much
...And they (Apple) have no problem finding batteries to put into current systems. I doubt the updated ones will use different batteries.
First of all: I hope for today. It's 9AM here in Germany so I have the chance to wait all the probably 9 hours till shop-update online in this forum.
Neither do I have a HVX200, nor the FS100. I rent both in December and hope it works
AppliedVisual said:Eeeewww... You use the FS100 with your HVX? Yuck.
Seriously, how does it work? I've read nothing but complaints about it on most of the forums and I've stayed away. But waiting for the CinePorter is pointless - the camera will be obsolete by the time those guys release their product. I just had to suck it up and I know own 5 8GB cards and 2 4GB cards.
Neither do I have a HVX200, nor the FS100. I rent both in December and hope it works
AppliedVisual
macrumors 6502a
ColeSear said:First of all: I hope for today. It's 9AM here in Germany so I have the chance to wait all the probably 9 hours till shop-update online in this forum.
Neither do I have a HVX200, nor the FS100. I rent both in December and hope it works
Oh. Good luck!
If you can, I advise renting a couple extra days before you shoot. Lots to learn if you have never used the HVX200. If you have used the DVX100, that's a start, similar feel but the HVX200 is bigger. But make sure you have a day or two to figure it out before you need to use it. Especially with the FS100. Have a back-up plan in case the FS100 doesn't work the way you want.