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macman4291 said:
Does anybody know the best way to make the most money if I wanted to sell my 17 inch Macbook Pro in time to get the newer C2D Macbook Pro when it comes out. It has never gone anywhere, and barely used, it also has an applecare protection registered.

SORRY I DON'T READ BOLD POSTS
 
shecky said:
the 17 can handle the thicker DL burner because it sits far enough to the right of the track pad for it to clear it entirely. on the 15 the trackpad overlaps the footprint of the burner not allowing it to fit.

certain newbies should learn the facts before they speak.


Despite the DL burner, I have no idea why Apple thinks the one inch thickness is an asset? Aside from a frail, paper thin appearance, what advantage is there? When if it was even slightly thicker it would have more air flow, run cooler.

I may not upgrade to the MBP for this reason. Too hot, thin and frail.

The 13’’ inch screen may also be too small for the MB, when I can get a 14’’ for less.

A 14’’ Black Book for about $1,200 would be nice.

Hell, put the Yonah in there and I’ll take it!
 
islanders said:
Despite the DL burner, I have no idea why Apple thinks the one inch thickness is an asset? Aside from a frail, paper thin appearance, what advantage is there?

Generally, thinner means lighter. And weight is a major factor for most people considering notebooks.
 
jericho878 said:
Generally, thinner means lighter. And weight is a major factor for most people considering notebooks.

Hmmmm, my Blackbook is quite a bit thinner than the Dell Inspiron it replaced. But I don't really think it's any lighter.

And to the poster who said the MB or MBP are frail, pick one up. They have a much heftier, more solid feel than any other portable I've ever held.
 
(lost my post on an edit, but here is the jest of it)


.1 inch difference isn’t going to make any difference in weight.

Besides most people are concerned about the heat, not the .1 inch thicker.
 
dsnort said:
Hmmmm, my Blackbook is quite a bit thinner than the Dell Inspiron it replaced. But I don't really think it's any lighter.

And to the poster who said the MB or MBP are frail, pick one up. They have a much heftier, more solid feel than any other portable I've ever held.



Actually, I said they have a frail appearance, and, the point I was making was that the appearance was the only virtue to this ultra thin design.
 
islanders said:
Actually, I said they have a frail appearance, and, the point I was making was that the appearance was the only virtue to this ultra thin design.

Sorry if I misunderstood, this line confused me.

islanders said:
I may not upgrade to the MBP for this reason. Too hot, thin and frail.
 
islanders said:
.1 inch isn’t going to add any noticeable difference. That’s not why Apple is so anal about this one inch design.
IMO, the average buyer won't try to confirm Apple's claim. The claim works as a suggestion that the MBP is lighter than its predecessor. Or maybe it's a nod to Apple's prowess in managing to squeeze more "advanced" technology into a smaller package. Just a guess since it's all really marketing BS.

Hmmmm, my Blackbook is quite a bit thinner than the Dell Inspiron it replaced. But I don't really think it's any lighter.
Just about anything is going to be thinner than the Pizza Box Inspiron. IMO, it comes down to perception since most people don't travel to the Apple Store, Dell in hand, to weigh them both.
 
How to sell?

Does anybody know the best way to make the most money if I wanted to sell my 17 inch Macbook Pro in time to get the newer C2D Macbook Pro when it comes out. It has never gone anywhere, and barely used, it also has an applecare protection registered.
 
macman4291 said:
Does anybody know the best way to make the most money if I wanted to sell my 17 inch Macbook Pro in time to get the newer C2D Macbook Pro when it comes out. It has never gone anywhere, and barely used, it also has an applecare protection registered.

Try Ebay and put a reserve price on your MacBook. That way you only need sell the machine if someone has bid the minimum price that you're willing to accept.
 
macman4291 said:
Does anybody know the best way to make the most money if I wanted to sell my 17 inch Macbook Pro in time to get the newer C2D Macbook Pro when it comes out. It has never gone anywhere, and barely used, it also has an applecare protection registered.

If it's barely used why bother buying another one?
 
shecky said:
the 17 can handle the thicker DL burner because it sits far enough to the right of the track pad for it to clear it entirely. on the 15 the trackpad overlaps the footprint of the burner not allowing it to fit.

certain newbies should learn the facts before they speak.


Hence another good reason for a case re-design.

The old look is stale. Nothing innovative. Wasted trackpad space, HDD a pain to access, the keyboard is flimsey, the case and arm rest shows finger prints, scratches easily, the front latch design is awkward to use.

Why can't Apple really differentiate the intel with a completely revamped design. One that will turn heads, make people take notice, and drop their jaws, like the TI G4 500 did back in 2000.
 
digitalbiker said:
Hence another good reason for a case re-design.

The old look is stale. Nothing innovative. Wasted trackpad space, HDD a pain to access, the keyboard is flimsey, the case and arm rest shows finger prints, scratches easily, the front latch design is awkward to use.

Why can't Apple really differentiate the intel with a completely revamped design. One that will turn heads, make people take notice, and drop their jaws, like the TI G4 500 did back in 2000.

I think one of the reasons none of the designs changed appearance appreciably is so that people didn't think too hard about certain aspects of the change.

Specifically, the machine inside might essentially be a mid-to-high end PC, so they kept the current "look" and pushed how much faster etc. the Intel systems were.

It's part of a branding strategy, pretty much... I think we'll start to see new cases once the first anniversary of the Intel Macs has been and gone.
 
meanmusic said:
If it's barely used why bother buying another one?

I agree. If you are just using it for less intensive purposes then you won't notice much difference updating.
 
Can anyone give any GOOD reasons why apple is waiting to 'pull the trigger' on these?

The only reasons I can think of are:

-A chip shortage --- but there is plenty of evidence that there is no chip shortage, especially since they are ready to go!
-They still have old merchandise left --- but then why are they delaying so many ppls shipping dates?

Argh.
 
rcm3 said:
Can anyone give any GOOD reasons why apple is waiting to 'pull the trigger' on these?

The only reasons I can think of are:

-A chip shortage --- but there is plenty of evidence that there is no chip shortage, especially since they are ready to go!

There is? Everyone offering them as options has pretty long lead times.

Bear in mind that Apple's first allocation was obviously ear-marked for the iMac line.

rcm3 said:
-They still have old merchandise left --- but then why are they delaying so many ppls shipping dates?

Argh.

The only other option I can think of is that they found a flaw in their Merom-based design, but that too seems unlikely. Merom's been ready for some time and Apple knew everything including specs at least a year ago -- and probably before the '05 WWDC.

It doesn't seem to offering major problems for anyone else, so unless it's a shortage of another part -- say, they've chosen a different GPU which is for some unforseen reason late to market or in short supply...

I guess another possibility would be connected to a fabrication problem.
 
ergle2 said:
There is? Everyone offering them as options has pretty long lead times.

Bear in mind that Apple's first allocation was obviously ear-marked for the iMac line.



The only other option I can think of is that they found a flaw in their Merom-based design, but that too seems unlikely. Merom's been ready for some time and Apple knew everything including specs at least a year ago -- and probably before the '05 WWDC.

It doesn't seem to offering major problems for anyone else, so unless it's a shortage of another part -- say, they've chosen a different GPU which is for some unforseen reason late to market or in short supply...

I guess another possibility would be connected to a fabrication problem.

But supposedly everything is ready to go and they are just waiting for the marketing dept......
 
ergle2 - I tend to think some type of engineering problem has developed or a new gpu shortage as you suggested. We are now over 7 months since the current MBP started shipping and gobs of problems with Rev A.

On the Apple discussion site there are new reports of sudden shutdown on the MBP with the newly revised mlb (sounds a bit like the current MB problem). This is sounding too bad to be true:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=628267&tstart=15

WWDC was the earliest I was expecting a Rev B - so if Photokina brings us a Rev B we are only 6 weeks late (although it feels like forever). If Photokina fails to deliver the goods I really am at a loss as to a next best guess on when. This misery has to end soon - we all hope.
 
rcm3 said:
But supposedly everything is ready to go and they are just waiting for the marketing dept......

What source is that based on? It appears that NO ONE on all of the rumor sites has a handle on this one.
 
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