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rcm3 said:
But supposedly everything is ready to go and they are just waiting for the marketing dept......

Based on what?

I'm not trying to be argumentative, I've just not seen anything other than speculation on the subject from any sources -- and nothing from anything remotely like a reliable source...
 
jericho878 said:
Try Ebay and put a reserve price on your MacBook. That way you only need sell the machine if someone has bid the minimum price that you're willing to accept.

With something expensive like a MBP it can seem risky...but I've found that when you list an item with no reserve price, and a starting price of $0.01, people go much more nuts in bidding on it, almost always resulting in a higher final sale price. When I sold my Powerbook a few years ago, I started with a reserve, and the auction ended without that reserve being met. Then I relisted with no reserve, and it sold for a couple of hundred dollars more than what I had originally set the reserve at. This has also seemed the case with other (albeit less expensive) items I've sold. Good luck!
 
Apple Corps said:
ergle2 - I tend to think some type of engineering problem has developed or a new gpu shortage as you suggested. We are now over 7 months since the current MBP started shipping and gobs of problems with Rev A.

Well, depends what you class as Rev A., Rev B, etc. -- I'm aware of quite a few motherboard revs. I think the last I recall reading of was G but that was way back in May so there may be newer ones.

My theory was that it was down to Apple didn't want to launch until they were ready to ship in numbers.

So far, the only laptop I've seen in stores with C2D of the same kinds of speeds one would expect to be in a new Mac is a Sony Vaio model (tho I haven't been in electronics stores for a couple of weeks...).

Dell et al are offering them on their websites but their's a fairly large lead time (I think the Dells were claiming a ship-date of October 2 when I looked earlier, Lenovo's was somethng similar on the C2D Thinkpads...).

I suspected that in keeping with Apple's recent history, they weren't going to announce til it was in the stores and available from the website, and thus it wasn't late, it was just Apple playing by their own rules.

It feels like forever since everyone else announced they were going to ship C2D models but initially the only ones shipping were the 1.66/1.83 chips (smaller die size, just 2MB cache) which Apple won't be using in their portable line. I'm assuming we'll see them in the mini in the new year tho'.

The other reason I figured on was it was down to their allocation size -- they first big shipment obviously went on the iMac -- so they were waiting for their next, presumably bigger batch.

Of course, this is all just pure guess work, assumption, whatever.
 
dclocke said:
With something expensive like a MBP it can seem risky...but I've found that when you list an item with no reserve price, and a starting price of $0.01, people go much more nuts in bidding on it, almost always resulting in a higher final sale price. When I sold my Powerbook a few years ago, I started with a reserve, and the auction ended without that reserve being met. Then I relisted with no reserve, and it sold for a couple of hundred dollars more than what I had originally set the reserve at. This has also seemed the case with other (albeit less expensive) items I've sold. Good luck!

I've been told the same thing by a friend that used to sell a lot on ebay.

She reckons people get caught up in the competitive aspects of it all. There's bound to be a good social study somewhere that discusses it.

The other thing I'm told is essential is good photos of the actual item in question -- not official pics, but pics of the exact unit you're offering.
 
AvSRoCkCO1067 said:
I still think it's funny that everyone thinks these Macbook Pros are "long overdue" - when, exactly, did the FIRST Dell laptop with C2D ship? I thought it was supposed to be around tomorrow...but surely it couldn't have been before last Monday or so at the earliest.

So that's, what? A week behind in the worst case scenario? Oh God...

However - if they waited till November, then yeah, I'd agree that they were overdue...:)

Dell has shipped quite a few core 2 duo laptops. Infact current order to arrival time is between 7-10 days. I know a friend who got 1505 with T7200. Merom looks really good even in Dell.
 
madscience said:
I can't believe this! I ordered my shiny new MacBook nearly 4 weeks ago. Last I heard they will finally ship in one more week, then another week to actually arrive. So count it- 6 weeks to get the notebook that will be outdated within a month of me powering it up. They better figure out how to meet demand on the stuff they released just a few months ago before they start upgrading, IMO. I work with Macs at school, but this is my first personal purchase. Another teacher ordered a MacBook Pro with no modifications and it only took 4 days to arrive! It better be the greatest little piece of technology I've ever owned because my work is suffering without it right now.... Is Apple always this slow or am I just accustomed to the fast-as-lightening speed of Dell?

shiny new Macbook Random Shutdowns: Update
instead of counting the days, count yourself lucky they're fixing it b4 you get it
 
ergle2 said:
Dell et al are offering them on their websites but their's a fairly large lead time (I think the Dells were claiming a ship-date of October 2 when I looked earlier, Lenovo's was somethng similar on the C2D Thinkpads...).

Lenovo is currently not yet offering any Core 2 Duo notebooks. Shipping times for Core 2 Duo notebooks at Dell are only a few days later than those for non-Core 2 Duo notebooks (e.g., 9/29 instead of 9/27).
 
ariechel said:
Lenovo is currently not yet offering any Core 2 Duo notebooks. Shipping times for Core 2 Duo notebooks at Dell are only a few days later than those for non-Core 2 Duo notebooks (e.g., 9/29 instead of 9/27).

Actually Lenovo is selling C2D notebooks. They aren't selling the ThinkPad series with C2D yet, but their '3000' series has had the C2D in it for a while.
 
Apple Corps said:
rcm3 said:
But supposedly everything is ready to go and they are just waiting for the marketing dept......

What source is that based on? It appears that NO ONE on all of the rumor sites has a handle on this one.

I read this as well on one of the rumor sites, I'm having trouble remembering/finding which one though.
 
My theory was that it was down to Apple didn't want to launch until they were ready to ship in numbers.

Or they're doing more to the MBP than just dropping merom chips into it. Why would they sex up the Macbook relative to the iBook, and leave the MBP permanently in a Powerbook case? The current MBP screams "transitional" to me. Or at least to my patient optimistic side that wants to see a broader upgrade.. on my desk. ;)
 
Potential update next week

Hello, all. I don't profess to know secret knowledge, but here's some telling news IMO. I'm at college and a hallmate just ordered a 15" MBP. The salesman she was talking to told her that refreshes are coming next week and she might possibly get one of the new MBPs when her order arrived. He told her that the way to check to see if it's a NEW macbook pro is if the logo on the bottom of the LCD is shiny, not matte. Sure enough, it is! Potential indicator? I've been out of the loop on specs, but in the minute I looked at her System Profiler she had 1GB of memory and a 2.16GHz processor, which is currently the middle of the lineup. She told me she had ordered the BASE model, indicating that they had indeed upped her order to the newer models. Therefore...I'm more excited now. :)
 
ToastCabbit said:
Hello, all. I don't profess to know secret knowledge, but here's some telling news IMO. I'm at college and a hallmate just ordered a 15" MBP. The salesman she was talking to told her that refreshes are coming next week and she might possibly get one of the new MBPs when her order arrived. He told her that the way to check to see if it's a NEW macbook pro is if the logo on the bottom of the LCD is shiny, not matte. Sure enough, it is! Potential indicator? I've been out of the loop on specs, but in the minute I looked at her System Profiler she had 1GB of memory and a 2.16GHz processor, which is currently the middle of the lineup. She told me she had ordered the BASE model, indicating that they had indeed upped her order to the newer models. Therefore...I'm more excited now. :)

Wow, salesmen in your area are heavily into BS.
 
imperium said:
Or they're doing more to the MBP than just dropping merom chips into it. Why would they sex up the Macbook relative to the iBook, and leave the MBP permanently in a Powerbook case? The current MBP screams "transitional" to me. Or at least to my patient optimistic side that wants to see a broader upgrade.. on my desk. ;)


Shhhhh!!! dont say the powerbook case is "transitional.... Apple fan boys will be coming soon with their pitchforks.... oh man...

Soon you will get responses to your post saying "why fix a good thing if it ain't broken."

I am dreaming for a new design look... or just a refreshed design. But becareful where you are posting... You'll be crucified...
 
ToastCabbit said:
Hello, all. I don't profess to know secret knowledge, but here's some telling news IMO. I'm at college and a hallmate just ordered a 15" MBP. The salesman she was talking to told her that refreshes are coming next week and she might possibly get one of the new MBPs when her order arrived. He told her that the way to check to see if it's a NEW macbook pro is if the logo on the bottom of the LCD is shiny, not matte. Sure enough, it is! Potential indicator? I've been out of the loop on specs, but in the minute I looked at her System Profiler she had 1GB of memory and a 2.16GHz processor, which is currently the middle of the lineup. She told me she had ordered the BASE model, indicating that they had indeed upped her order to the newer models. Therefore...I'm more excited now. :)

Sounds more like a PowerBook (ink imprint) to current MBPs (glued shiny imprint) verification to me. Although BASE model could mean 2.16 base and 2.33 high end. Otherwise nothing different to current models
 
ToastCabbit said:
Hello, all. I don't profess to know secret knowledge, but here's some telling news IMO. I'm at college and a hallmate just ordered a 15" MBP. The salesman she was talking to told her that refreshes are coming next week and she might possibly get one of the new MBPs when her order arrived. He told her that the way to check to see if it's a NEW macbook pro is if the logo on the bottom of the LCD is shiny, not matte. Sure enough, it is! Potential indicator? I've been out of the loop on specs, but in the minute I looked at her System Profiler she had 1GB of memory and a 2.16GHz processor, which is currently the middle of the lineup. She told me she had ordered the BASE model, indicating that they had indeed upped her order to the newer models. Therefore...I'm more excited now. :)

I'm not sure I completely understand what you're indicating here. Did she simply get a better deal on the mid-range model, paying the lower-end price? Or are you indicating that she got a core 2 duo notebook?

Or it could be as was said above that the apple store employee is full of it.
 
HecubusPro said:
I'm not sure I completely understand what you're indicating here. Did she simply get a better deal on the mid-range model, paying the lower-end price? Or are you indicating that she got a core 2 duo notebook?

Or it could be as was said above that the apple store employee is full of it.

From what I gathered talking to her, the mid-range specs are becoming the base specs with the update. And I don't know if she got a C2D. I'd be happy to ask her, though, if someone would tell me how to check that.
 
ToastCabbit said:
From what I gathered talking to her, the mid-range specs are becoming the base specs with the update. And I don't know if she got a C2D. I'd be happy to ask her, though, if someone would tell me how to check that.
Check the specs with System Profiler, which should be in the Utilities folder, or can be accessed through the Apple menu under "About This Computer".
 
MacinDoc said:
Check the specs with System Profiler, which should be in the Utilities folder, or can be accessed through the Apple menu under "About This Computer".

Or don't bother, because we know for sure that it's a Core Duo and not a Core 2 Duo.
 
AppleKrate said:
shiny new Macbook Random Shutdowns: Update
instead of counting the days, count yourself lucky they're fixing it b4 you get it
So, Apple has shipped hundreds of thousands of Macbooks and MBPs, and 30 people have posted stating that they have had random shutdown and related problems, and now you are suggesting that Apple has a major QC problem? The repair rate for laptops made by all manufacturers is 15-20%, and Apple is among the more reliable laptop manufacturers, according to Consumer Reports.
 
The anticipation is killing me... Hype is a powerful thing. This will be my first Mac and i can't wait! :D
 
I've been checking every rumors site i know, apple's site about 50 times a day, ... it's just not healthy. Tell me i'm not alone here.
 
Not alone... Can't wait for the three or so years of serenity that will follow this damn update.
Having a relationship with Apple is sometimes painful.. Apple is not really that open with me, so I'm left wondering, what is it up to, will I get my fix soon..? I don't know, but I hope..
 
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