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Wonder if any of the delay has to do with Apple wanting everyone's new MBP money to hit their Q1 '07 sales (which starts October 1st)?
Q4 '06 (which ends today) sales should be great with the crazy MacBook demand.
Unless Apple's going to launch the iPhone, iTV or the real G6 "video" iPod before Christmas, I don't see anything out of the ordinary to spike their next quarter sales other than refreshed MacBook/Pros. The colorful nanos and G5.5 iPods are cool, but I just don't see them flying off the shelves at the same rate that the orig. nanos and G5 iPods did last year when those designs were brand new.
Q4 '06 (which ends today) sales should be great with the crazy MacBook demand.
Unless Apple's going to launch the iPhone, iTV or the real G6 "video" iPod before Christmas, I don't see anything out of the ordinary to spike their next quarter sales other than refreshed MacBook/Pros. The colorful nanos and G5.5 iPods are cool, but I just don't see them flying off the shelves at the same rate that the orig. nanos and G5 iPods did last year when those designs were brand new.
suwandy said:
Until recently, there was discussion about the new MBPs on both - just trying to keep everyone motivated
macman2790 said:
Actually, SR is estimated for an April-ish release from what I've read. Which means that, as Multimedia has steadily mentioned, probably means you won't really see a system with it until late May or early June.
That being the case and assuming that 1) Apple adopts SR and isn't working on something better with Intel, and 2) they don't have another update until that time if they do go with SR, then it would be more like 7 months or so between updates. Of course that assumes a little room for time, but November to June would be ~7 months, as would October to May.
That's assuming that they make the April timeframe for SR. Who knows? It could be a little earlier, or a little later.
"Silent" Updates Are Just As Good As Live Event Updates
It doesn't get any bigger nor better than both the MacBook and the iMac updates which were both "silent". I no longer see any correlation between "silent" or "Press Event" updates thanks to the power of the web to explain it all in more depth than any live presentation can. Those are starting to look like a waste of money.suwandy said:Prefers "loud" update release,
david6545 said:
Competition?
With the switch to Intel, Apple can no longer afford not to update with Intel's latest chip. Even if it is just a simple refresh with the new processor. They're competing for the same customers as they have been, but if you were in a store with the option of this PC notebook with the latests processor and speed, or one that has had the same processor that was released a year ago, which would you think was better?
Now that's taking all technical knowledge aside, and looking at it from the "average" consumer's view.
Apple can't simply rely on OS X to be the only reason for a PC user to switch. If they have a little bit of knowledge, and go wow, this chip isn't even available anymore in this (Sony, Dell, Toshiba, etc), they most likely would think to themselves that "Hey, I've been screwed by windows for so long already, so it can't get any worse. Plus, I'll have the latest technology."
Their sales would slip, even amongst current users. In general Mac users tend to be more aware of what's going on than the average PC user, they're either going to not buy the outdated equipment until it is updated, or they may end up having to jump ship for a while simply due to need.
In short, Aplle would be shooting themselves in the foot to wait that long.
Design Change Is Now For HD Bay & Ventilation Improvements
For an easy access HD Bay and better ventilation. Your noiton it won't change for more than another year is the wildest I've seen posted here yet.david6545 said:
Multimedia said:
Most definitely. Although, if there is already something on the schedule, it makes sense to hold an event. But simply creating an event to center around an announcement seems less feasible now than in the past.
You'll always have your big events still, but I agree that it seems silly now to make up an event to just to say now shipping a new and improved (insert computer line here).
Multimedia said:For an easy access HD Bay and better ventilation. Your noiton it won't change for more than another year is the wildest I've seen posted here yet.
i agree - waiting until SR is available (which is H1 2007 - meaning no sooner than April, meaning you will not actually see them inside machines you can buy until May/june) is ridiculous. no way apple is going to go a year before updating the MBP. impossible.
Apple will not wait until 2007 to release a new MacBook or MacBook Pro. Apple's going to release a new version of the MacBook Pro, and the MacBook shortly thereafter in the next few days or weeks. I am not big into the notion that there's going to be radical design changes that some say are coming, like new enclosures, just because of a perception that Apple's late to the Merom notebook game. I think whatever comes this month by way of Merom MacBooks and MacBook Pros will have design refinements like better heat dissipation and/or user removable hard drives.
bwanac said:
Leopard will only cost about $100 and so far they haven't released everything there is about its new features... i wonder how much more they can add to a great OS that Tiger is already..
Why Wait For Leopard When Tiger Rules? !
You can even watch Steve explain Leopard with demonstrations at the August WWDC from this streaming video page.
It's all right there on the Apple website for you to study. Since it will only cost you another $75 academic why wait?bwanac said:
You can even watch Steve explain Leopard with demonstrations at the August WWDC from this streaming video page.
bwanac said:
I'm planning on waiting until Leopard comes out, so I get the latest OS with the (hopefully) C2D. I'm in no big need for a new Mac (my first, BTW), as I have an HP pc and the Gf's Mac G4. I got really interested in Macs when she moved in and I got to play on her Mac. I'm in with the rest of these guys here that are waiting for a MBP with a C2D. Waiting for Santa Rosa or the next biggest thing is beyond my patience, as I'm just looking for something to last me about 3 years and not be too obsolete.
Eric
P.S, first time poster and long time looker, and I must say that you guy's have got it down when it comes to info on Macs!!
Waiting For Leopard To Save $129?
But why wait 'til then? Does your girlfriend have Tiger installed on that old G4? If you're gonna wait for Leopard, you might as well wait for Santa Rosa. Leopard is only gonna cost you $129 max. Is it worth it to you to wait for all that time to save $129?
Thanks and welcome to MacRumors Forums.Eric374 said:
But why wait 'til then? Does your girlfriend have Tiger installed on that old G4? If you're gonna wait for Leopard, you might as well wait for Santa Rosa. Leopard is only gonna cost you $129 max. Is it worth it to you to wait for all that time to save $129?
I think the biggest fault in your assumption is that you think that the amount of Apple customers who base their purchase on processor speed is significant.ThunderLounge said:
From what I've seen hanging out at our new Apple retail store (and walking by the Dell kiosk), that's not the case. The average person almost always asks the sales person "Oh, is this model fast enough for me to do [x,y,z] on it? OK, I'll take one". Seems like they have NO clue about what the latest Intel processor is.
I think your point is dead on about people like us that hang out in forums like this, but I really really doubt that we're anywhere near representative of Apple's main user base.
A lot of folks that sent their MBs back to Apple for the RSD problem got them back with new logicboards that the owners say run SIGNIFICANTLY cooler.DHagan4755 said:
Wonder if Apple's already got a new MacBook refinement (in regards to heat)?
aristobrat said:
My new Macbook (as of last week) runs rather cool. I keep it on my lap the whole time I use it with no problems.
Of course, I haven't run any CPU intensive apps yet, so maybe it will get hotter.
Multimedia, I'm waiting for Leopard basically because that's about when I'll have the money to buy that nice shiny new MBP! (tax return time) I figure by the time I get ready for it, Leopard should already be here. If not, then I'll wait a max of 1 month, then buy. Like you said, why wait when it only costs $129, but that's also about the price of some upgraded RAM, soooo.....
Eric
Eric
Mac users more aware of hardware changes?
ThunderLounge, unfortunately, I think you're wrong. Every time I've set foot in my local Apple store, I've seen a slew of people in there who know *very* little about computer hardware and technical specs. They look at the Mac Pro towers and ask "This is the real fast model, right?" They often rely heavily on computers for their jobs (anything from writing to wedding photography), but their more technical questions tend to focus sharply one one or two apps they use in-depth.
All this talk about people not wanting to buy a Macbook Pro until it includes the latest Intel CPU is hogwash. Might be true for the crowd that frequents Slashdot and these forums - but we're a MINORITY of the Mac-using public, by far. Most Apple customers buy a Macbook Pro only because they're told "If you get that cheaper Macbook, Final Cut isn't going to work very well for you on it." or what-not. They're trying to buy a machine that solves specific problems for them. They're not all worked up over exactly what CPU revision or model they're getting inside of it compared to the latest Window notebooks from HP or Dell.
ThunderLounge, unfortunately, I think you're wrong. Every time I've set foot in my local Apple store, I've seen a slew of people in there who know *very* little about computer hardware and technical specs. They look at the Mac Pro towers and ask "This is the real fast model, right?" They often rely heavily on computers for their jobs (anything from writing to wedding photography), but their more technical questions tend to focus sharply one one or two apps they use in-depth.
All this talk about people not wanting to buy a Macbook Pro until it includes the latest Intel CPU is hogwash. Might be true for the crowd that frequents Slashdot and these forums - but we're a MINORITY of the Mac-using public, by far. Most Apple customers buy a Macbook Pro only because they're told "If you get that cheaper Macbook, Final Cut isn't going to work very well for you on it." or what-not. They're trying to buy a machine that solves specific problems for them. They're not all worked up over exactly what CPU revision or model they're getting inside of it compared to the latest Window notebooks from HP or Dell.
ThunderLounge said:
And yeah, she has Tiger on her G4. I guess I could just upgrade them both at the same time. Never thought of that!
Eric
Eric
MB Will Only Get A Processor Upgrade - Nothing More - Same Speeds As Now
There's no reason to believe nor want any change to the MacBook other than the C2D processor which will be running at the same sppeds as now only with the 2GHz C2D having double the shared L2 cache - 4MB instead of the current 2MB. You are probably right about Rev. 2 already being inside the MacBook.
The redesign issue only revolves around the MBP and expecting Apple to roll the HD Bay that's already in the MB into the next MBP which leads to a redesign by definition.
Would you please provide us with the words that the acronym RSD mean? I have never seen this acronym before your post. Thank you in advance for your consideration.aristobrat said:
There's no reason to believe nor want any change to the MacBook other than the C2D processor which will be running at the same sppeds as now only with the 2GHz C2D having double the shared L2 cache - 4MB instead of the current 2MB. You are probably right about Rev. 2 already being inside the MacBook.
The redesign issue only revolves around the MBP and expecting Apple to roll the HD Bay that's already in the MB into the next MBP which leads to a redesign by definition.
