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I Start With Huge EyeTV2 Digital Broadcast Recordings & Wind Up With Small mp4 Files
Digital Broadcast HD from CBS, NBC, PBS and Fox.manic said:
Toast 7.1 UB has that compress Dual Layer to Single Layer feature.manic said:
The 2GHz MB is just as strong as the MBP. Playback should be fine out of it. I am compressing Broadcast HD to DVD Images - not media - then ripping from those images with Handbrake to further compress them to mp4 files that are almost as good as the originals. This two stage process takes longer than going from the originals with say a QT export. But the result is far superior. Using only 2 cores to do this will take you a lot of time. Even with 4 cores on the Quad G5 or Mac Pro it takes too long. That's why I'm looking forward to the Dual Clovertown 8-core Mac Pro this Winter.manic said:
My father couldn't (didn't want to) wait any longer.
So we orderd a MBP 17 inch with glossy display yesterday. But as it seems we will have to be very patient. It will take about 5 days until they will ship it and then it takes another 7 days until it will have made its way from Asia to Europe/Germany.
On the one hand, I hope Apple won't update the MBP during the next 2 weeks, otherwise my father will be quite angry...
On the other hand I HOPE that Apple will update the MBP-line as I'm currently waiting for the MBP c2d to buy one.
zeitlos
So we orderd a MBP 17 inch with glossy display yesterday. But as it seems we will have to be very patient. It will take about 5 days until they will ship it and then it takes another 7 days until it will have made its way from Asia to Europe/Germany.
On the one hand, I hope Apple won't update the MBP during the next 2 weeks, otherwise my father will be quite angry...
On the other hand I HOPE that Apple will update the MBP-line as I'm currently waiting for the MBP c2d to buy one.
zeitlos
ik@ said:
Without having checked to confirm, I am quite certain that the back-to-school iPod deal is only good "while supplies last." If demand for the old iPods surged on release of Merom-based Macbook Pros (and prior to the end of the BTS deal), Apple would be under no obligation (other than perhaps moral) to honor the deal once supplies were exhausted.
As a result, I see no obvious relationship between the back-to-school special and the release of Merom-based Macbook Pros.
I believe that a lot of the Apple computers shipped to places in Europe are actualy assembled in Cork, Ireland.
bazzalisk said:
Do you really think so? In the biggest German maccommunity (www.macuser.de) there is a special thread for those people who just ordered a mac and are now waiting for it to arrive. If you order a non-cto/bto modell, it mostly comes straight from holland/netherlands. If you want a cto/bto modell, they they ship it from Asia which takes quite a long time to arrive her in Germany (and in other parts of Europe).
I'd be glad if the only did, sending macs from Ireland!
zeitlos
Please help
Hey guys,
I've lost my original login, so set this one up. I really need some help here.
OK. I start Uni tomorrow and have been wanting an MB for ages (the 2g White version). I'm doing a Politics MSc so will be mostly using for surfing / essay writing. I also want to do some home recording on garage band and eventually logic / pro tools. I'll upgrade RAM to 1g as soon as i can afford it.
Here's where i need the help. Will C2D make that much difference to me? Is it worth waiting (and missing out on the iPod edu deal) or shaould i just go ahead and order one now? I've waited about a month, but am getting a bit desperate. I'm typing this on a dying Dell that refuses to allow me to do any one task for more than half an hour before it freezes and dies. So please, someone with experience of music making etc (or just someone who knows the real implications of C2D) let me know what i should do! Also, if i ordered today and the C2D was released on 10/10 or 17/10, could i return my MB for the C2D models?
Your's gratefully,
g's hat
Hey guys,
I've lost my original login, so set this one up. I really need some help here.
OK. I start Uni tomorrow and have been wanting an MB for ages (the 2g White version). I'm doing a Politics MSc so will be mostly using for surfing / essay writing. I also want to do some home recording on garage band and eventually logic / pro tools. I'll upgrade RAM to 1g as soon as i can afford it.
Here's where i need the help. Will C2D make that much difference to me? Is it worth waiting (and missing out on the iPod edu deal) or shaould i just go ahead and order one now? I've waited about a month, but am getting a bit desperate. I'm typing this on a dying Dell that refuses to allow me to do any one task for more than half an hour before it freezes and dies. So please, someone with experience of music making etc (or just someone who knows the real implications of C2D) let me know what i should do! Also, if i ordered today and the C2D was released on 10/10 or 17/10, could i return my MB for the C2D models?
Your's gratefully,
g's hat
gatsbys hat said:
With what you're talking about, you're most likely not going to notice any difference.
And if you want the iPod deal, I'd say go for it.
I'd ask someone at Apple about their return policies...I can't comment on that.
gatsbys hat said:
GarageBand and Logic Express run great on my 1.66 mini (1gb ram). Can't imagine why they wouldn't be just as good (if not better) on a nice white macbook. I played with logic express on a g4 powerbook the other day, ran great and was running a big audio (homestudio) set-up. If you are starting uni tomorrow (well done and good luck) and you can find one in your local store (shortages here) I personally would buy the macbook and be happy. Mate just ordered one last week, and they just told him it'll be another week at least before it arrives (BTO).
My 2c
Out of curiosity I configured an ibm system t60p with Core Duo.
14.1 inch screen
1400x1050 resolution,
2.33ghz Core Duo processor,
1gig ram ddr2,
Wireless a/b/g
100gb 5400 rpm hard drive
and the total came out to: USD $2,469
so the current macbook pro's aren't really an outragous ripoff as a lot of users seem to be stating... they just aren't the brand spanking new top of the line goodness.
I have owned an apple (12" powerbook g4 1.5ghz), and an ibm t41 (1.6ghz) and I believe they are of comparable quality: Much better than other companies laptops I have used (gateway... dell... hypersonic (worst laptop EVER)... etc...). If anything, the ibm's internal layout made more sense a long with easier upgradable components. THe ibm was also amazingly solid. Don't tell the person who i sold it to, but i dropped it a ton of times and spilt pulpy orange juice on it (while it was on). Other than spending hours taking it all apart and cleaning out the pulp, it worked perfectly fine after it was dried off. My friend who I sold it to, soon thereafter spilt a gallon of water on it. After immediately turning it off, removing the battery, taking it all apart, and letting it dry off, it worked perfectly fine. The laptop doesn't even have a visible scratch on it. Amazing machine.
Needless to say, I don't allow liquids near expensive equipment anymore.
My powerbook on the other hand has a billion dents scratches and minor aesthetic problems by the time i sold it. I had it for the same amount of time as the ibm and it went through 1/4 of the accidental abuse.
Anyways, back on topic, I think the current like of macbook pro's aren't a giant rip off.... but it would suck to buy it and then it wouldn't be top of the line anymore right after
That is why i wait and post here.
14.1 inch screen
1400x1050 resolution,
2.33ghz Core Duo processor,
1gig ram ddr2,
Wireless a/b/g
100gb 5400 rpm hard drive
and the total came out to: USD $2,469
so the current macbook pro's aren't really an outragous ripoff as a lot of users seem to be stating... they just aren't the brand spanking new top of the line goodness.
I have owned an apple (12" powerbook g4 1.5ghz), and an ibm t41 (1.6ghz) and I believe they are of comparable quality: Much better than other companies laptops I have used (gateway... dell... hypersonic (worst laptop EVER)... etc...). If anything, the ibm's internal layout made more sense a long with easier upgradable components. THe ibm was also amazingly solid. Don't tell the person who i sold it to, but i dropped it a ton of times and spilt pulpy orange juice on it (while it was on). Other than spending hours taking it all apart and cleaning out the pulp, it worked perfectly fine after it was dried off. My friend who I sold it to, soon thereafter spilt a gallon of water on it. After immediately turning it off, removing the battery, taking it all apart, and letting it dry off, it worked perfectly fine. The laptop doesn't even have a visible scratch on it. Amazing machine.
Needless to say, I don't allow liquids near expensive equipment anymore.
My powerbook on the other hand has a billion dents scratches and minor aesthetic problems by the time i sold it. I had it for the same amount of time as the ibm and it went through 1/4 of the accidental abuse.
Anyways, back on topic, I think the current like of macbook pro's aren't a giant rip off.... but it would suck to buy it and then it wouldn't be top of the line anymore right after
That is why i wait and post here.
Are 2.33Ghz processors available yet?
Like others have said, apple wont release until they have the 2.33Ghz meroms.
I saw this in this months pc magazine (file attached).
The Dell XPS M1710 is just now (or soon will) start to get the 2.33Ghz c2d, I just checked their site and they still have not gotten them, they are all 2.16Ghz.
Note the price in the article!!, I think apple wont release 2.33Ghz mbp until the processor prices go down.
That might be awhile.
Like others have said, apple wont release until they have the 2.33Ghz meroms.
I saw this in this months pc magazine (file attached).
The Dell XPS M1710 is just now (or soon will) start to get the 2.33Ghz c2d, I just checked their site and they still have not gotten them, they are all 2.16Ghz.
Note the price in the article!!, I think apple wont release 2.33Ghz mbp until the processor prices go down.
That might be awhile.
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MBP just arrived
WOW, i ordered on the 3rd and used normal free shipping and my 17" just got here right now (Oct. 5) i'm ecstatic...
hope you guys don't have to wait to long for Merom... i'm happy with what i have!
WOW, i ordered on the 3rd and used normal free shipping and my 17" just got here right now (Oct. 5) i'm ecstatic...
hope you guys don't have to wait to long for Merom... i'm happy with what i have!
rectangular said:
I disagree, I think the current MBPs are a ripoff. You can buy a Sony VGN-FE790 with a 2.33GHz C2D for under $2000 (see http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INT...IONotebookComputers_FE_Series&Dept=computers).
Now please don't start flaming me saying things like "okay, go buy that damn Sony then". I am simply pointing out that competitors are building comparable machines with the next generation CPU and charging $500 less. With that in mind, I do feel the current MBP price is a bit much. I myself bought a 2GHz MBP back in January and I was more than happy to pay that price then. However, 9 months later and I don't expect to be paying the same price for a machine that is 9 months old (the ONLY difference to the one I bought is that they now have an extra 166MHz).
Basically, the MBP wasn't a rip off 9 months ago, but in 9 months the machine hasn't changed and neither has the price, so today, in my view, it is indeed a rip off.
maverick808 said:
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Basically, you're getting ripped off BIG TIME if you go out and buy the current MBP. It's outdated equipment with an overpriced price-tag.
I want just to make you notice a thing: if you go to the online Apple Store and choose an iMac and then replace the CPU with a 2.33 GHz C2D, the estimated shipping time rises from 24 hours to 1-3 business day. If they hadn't that kind of CPU, I think shipping time would increase a lot more than this (i.e. weeks not days).
Moreover, since they have 2.33 GHz CPUs and this kind of processor is not a default one on any iMac and not everyone wants to spen $250 for just 200 MHz speed increasing, I think they should have a sufficient number of high-speed processor to start using them on the MBPs, maybe as an option for just the 17" or the top 15".
Moreover, since they have 2.33 GHz CPUs and this kind of processor is not a default one on any iMac and not everyone wants to spen $250 for just 200 MHz speed increasing, I think they should have a sufficient number of high-speed processor to start using them on the MBPs, maybe as an option for just the 17" or the top 15".
blackstarliner said:
Well, firstly you have to remember that this Sony is BETTER than the current MBP as it HAS a C2D and the MBP does not. So if you configure the Sony with similar specs but give it a 2GHz C2D, which I'll assume performs about as well as a 2.16GHz, CD then the price is only $1529.99!!!!
Now, if we max out the Sony with a 2.33GHz C2D we get $2079.99. Again, much cheaper than the MBP which doesn't even have a C2D. I can't see how anyone can look at those figures and say the MBP, which is still using the last generation CPU and yet costs more than $500 more, is not a rip off.
By the way, if you click the more info button beside the power adapter you'll see that it is for a SPARE power adapter. Obviously, you get a power adapter included in the standard price.
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A guest speaker came to give a presentation today and used a MBP. The whine was AWFUL!. He connected the speaker system to the notebook and the whining sound was amplified hugely. The whole class was irritated, with each slide transition the whine slowed down and picked up again making it difficult to get what he was actually saying.
Strenghtened my resolve NOT to buy the current MBPs or any MBPs that sound like that, santa rosa/merom or not.
Strenghtened my resolve NOT to buy the current MBPs or any MBPs that sound like that, santa rosa/merom or not.
daneoni said:
Well actually, the whine was fixed around June or July and all MBPs manufactured since then do not have the whine. Furthermore, Apple will replace, for free, the motherboards on all MBPs that were manufactured before then and do have the whine. They replaced the motherboard on my January MBP for free and it no longer has any whine at all.
Whilst I do think the current MBP isn't worth the cost, as it's the same machine Apple were selling 9 months ago, I don't think fear of getting a whiner is a valid reason not to buy anymore, since Apple have rectified that particular problem and no new MBPs suffer from it.
maverick808 said:
Awe come on Maverick!! To achieve the 2079.99 price you had to configure it with a 40 Gb hard disk and accept Windows XP Home Edition. Hardly comparable to the HD and OS in the Mac package. There is an old farm saying that goes something like, "Clean corn costs a bit more but we can give you a real bargin on some that has been through the horse once". Please, I prefer the clean corn.
Deputy-Dawg said:
Actually, the screenshots I attached clearly show that I selected the 100GB hard disk. I selected 100GB because that's what the mid range MBP has. I also selected the built in USB camera and the discrete video card. I really think it's the most even comparison I could have made. I'll recheck the prices but as you can see from the screenshots I did not pick the 40GB drive, I picked 100GB.
But The Sony Won't Run OS X
I see we have a large influx of newbies from the Windows world here lately. Just so you know there are many of us here who do not think your Windows XP is something we want anything or much - in the case of must use for work - to do with. So please try to remember a different computer hardware comparison to any of Apple's computers is really irrelevant to many of us here. What ever price Apple chooses to charge we accept and live with. It's similar to a monopoly in that regard. Apple has a monopoly on what hardware will leagally run OS X.
That being said, I see your point. We are paying a huge premium to be able to run OS X on a very limited set of over-priced hardware. Most of us are willing to pay that premium and accept we are helping subsidise the cost of OS X that way.
I agree with you at the theoretical level and would not buy a CD MB or MBP for that and many other reasons. But you have got to admit the Sony comparison is somewhat bogus due to the fact it cannot run OS X which to many of us is a deal breaker in the first place.maverick808 said:
I see we have a large influx of newbies from the Windows world here lately. Just so you know there are many of us here who do not think your Windows XP is something we want anything or much - in the case of must use for work - to do with. So please try to remember a different computer hardware comparison to any of Apple's computers is really irrelevant to many of us here. What ever price Apple chooses to charge we accept and live with. It's similar to a monopoly in that regard. Apple has a monopoly on what hardware will leagally run OS X.
That being said, I see your point. We are paying a huge premium to be able to run OS X on a very limited set of over-priced hardware. Most of us are willing to pay that premium and accept we are helping subsidise the cost of OS X that way.
It doesn't matter to most of us. We will pay whatever Apple asks us to pay when we think it is worth it. And you can take your Windows Home, Media Center and XP editions and stick 'em where the sun don't shine.maverick808 said:
Yeah I agree. But what can we do? We are stuck with higher prices because we love OS X. If everyone stops buying Macs then maybe Apple will lower their prices. But I don't see it happening. I think we pay more for Macs the same way some pay more for a Mercedes or a BMW car - quality. Not withstanding mooing problems with the current crop, once they figure out how to get it right, we'll be there at the register with bells on.maverick808 said: