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sierra oscar said:
I actually don't know about this. I guess I just assumed. I would to like to know.
I wish I could borrow one of each for a couple days and try them out. Looking at them in the Apple store just dosent cut it.
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I'm Betting Tomorrow Will Be Another Great Day!
I'm Betting Tomorrow Will Be Another Great Day! 🙂illest813 said:
macman2790
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2' iMac?
OK, I've been going back and forth between waiting for a MBP a little longer and getting a PC laptop. And now for something completely different....
I'm writing this on my 4-year-old-company-owned Compaq Evo N610C, while sitting on a queen sized bed in my spare bed room, which (the bed that is) I am using as my desk. Now would you believe it, my wife has offered to get rid of the bed (and the dresser!) and buy me a desk plus a swivel chair (as well as a pullout couch for the occasional guest in the house). Upon this unexpected turn of events it has occurred to me that my "work" laptop (which is bound to be replaced by my company with a C2D Dell in the next 6 months or so anyway) is still good enough to bring into the toilet (I admit, I can't cut my net umbilical even when I'm going kaka), so I thinks to myself "mebee I should get me a 2' iMac instead of a MBP?". Given that portability (and that includes pot-ability 😀 ) is not really an issue, and that a decked out 2' iMac is probably several hundred USD less than an equivalent 15" MBP is likely to cost (not to mention the bigger screen), I'm thinking I just might go iMac. Any thoughts?
OK, I've been going back and forth between waiting for a MBP a little longer and getting a PC laptop. And now for something completely different....
I'm writing this on my 4-year-old-company-owned Compaq Evo N610C, while sitting on a queen sized bed in my spare bed room, which (the bed that is) I am using as my desk. Now would you believe it, my wife has offered to get rid of the bed (and the dresser!) and buy me a desk plus a swivel chair (as well as a pullout couch for the occasional guest in the house). Upon this unexpected turn of events it has occurred to me that my "work" laptop (which is bound to be replaced by my company with a C2D Dell in the next 6 months or so anyway) is still good enough to bring into the toilet (I admit, I can't cut my net umbilical even when I'm going kaka), so I thinks to myself "mebee I should get me a 2' iMac instead of a MBP?". Given that portability (and that includes pot-ability 😀 ) is not really an issue, and that a decked out 2' iMac is probably several hundred USD less than an equivalent 15" MBP is likely to cost (not to mention the bigger screen), I'm thinking I just might go iMac. Any thoughts?
akadmon said:
If you can deal without the 'pot-ability' I say get your iMac. At least you know you'll get C2D sooner than anyone in this thread. 😉
ct-scan said:
I'd get it (2' iMac, ti) tomorrow! Unfortunately I've gotta wait a couple more weeks. My dad is coming for a visit -- I so hate to justify my splurging on non-essentials to him 😀
Anyone in the Boston area looking for a qeen bed and a solid oak dresser -- drop me a note.
macman2790
macrumors 6502a
you'll just have to wait until wwdc to find that out....i mean mwsf '07 12x faster than current macbook pro though.ct-scan said:
seeking advice
I was about to buy a MBP 17" a week and a half ago until I stumbled upon this thread. I'm on a G4 desktop (dual 1GHz) and really need to start being mobile with my work.
I'm not really on the up and up on computer technology, it's purely a tool for my work. I'm a freelance designer/background artist for some animated tv shows and basically just use flash, illustrator, and largish photoshop files. I also do some scoring for films and have had great luck on every Mac I've ever owned getting done what I need to get done. I scored an entire film on my old G3 with a 11gb HD and very little RAM, it sucked but it got done.
I'd like to think though when I buy a computer I'm buying the best of the best, all the while knowing that the 'next best' is always only a few months away. Reading these threads though have convinced me to wait a bit since it's viewed that that the current offerings of the MBP line is a bit behind the times and an upgrade may be imminent. That said, I really really want a MBP soon, ASAP soon. I can wait a few more weeks without a big problem but past that it's going to be uncomfortable. Money is not an issue since I have budgeted for this equipment, and I can get a decent discount too so even with the MPB being over priced for what I'm getting, I'll end up getting a good price in the end.
My question is: do I cut my losses now and buy the damn thing that's going to serve me well regardless, especially compared to what I'm used to and enjoy it immediately. Do I wait until the very last moment and buy a MBP just before being too late and rush to integrate it into my set up regardless of any updates. Or is there something else to think about that I'm not. One last thing, I know that photoshop is not going to be anything special at the moment since it's running in the emulator, my main concern is having a computer I can take with me outside the house, bottom line. Thanks
I was about to buy a MBP 17" a week and a half ago until I stumbled upon this thread. I'm on a G4 desktop (dual 1GHz) and really need to start being mobile with my work.
I'm not really on the up and up on computer technology, it's purely a tool for my work. I'm a freelance designer/background artist for some animated tv shows and basically just use flash, illustrator, and largish photoshop files. I also do some scoring for films and have had great luck on every Mac I've ever owned getting done what I need to get done. I scored an entire film on my old G3 with a 11gb HD and very little RAM, it sucked but it got done.
I'd like to think though when I buy a computer I'm buying the best of the best, all the while knowing that the 'next best' is always only a few months away. Reading these threads though have convinced me to wait a bit since it's viewed that that the current offerings of the MBP line is a bit behind the times and an upgrade may be imminent. That said, I really really want a MBP soon, ASAP soon. I can wait a few more weeks without a big problem but past that it's going to be uncomfortable. Money is not an issue since I have budgeted for this equipment, and I can get a decent discount too so even with the MPB being over priced for what I'm getting, I'll end up getting a good price in the end.
My question is: do I cut my losses now and buy the damn thing that's going to serve me well regardless, especially compared to what I'm used to and enjoy it immediately. Do I wait until the very last moment and buy a MBP just before being too late and rush to integrate it into my set up regardless of any updates. Or is there something else to think about that I'm not. One last thing, I know that photoshop is not going to be anything special at the moment since it's running in the emulator, my main concern is having a computer I can take with me outside the house, bottom line. Thanks
Just got confirmation that the new MBP's are coming this month! One of the music department teachers was trying to place orders for 10 new MBP's and was told the wait will be two weeks, but they can get macbooks to her in only 5 days. I could have sworn it was the Macbooks in high demand not the Pro notebooks. Now just to wait until the last tuesday of October. The teacher did order the 10 MBP's by the way....so I'll let everyone know if or when she recieves notice about shipment.
sierra oscar said:
You're right, MB and MBP will be the same when running through a projector. The only real advantage to the MBP is that you don't need the extra mini-DVI to DVI adapter. Now, the MBP does have dual-link DVI, but that is irrelevent for presentations and every projector out there except for 4K cinema projectors, which you're not going to be lugging about. 😉
Most projectors, especially those designed for business/multimedia presentations and portability have XGA or WXGA resolutions these days. And the Macbook handles up to 1920x1200 just fine and can actually cough up 2048x1536 with the right hardware combination. You only need the dual-link if you want to drive higher resolutions like the 2560x1600 of the 30" LCD displays.
School's Open
Actually, most public schools are open on Columbus Day. I work in a public elementary school, and I didn't get the day off yesterday. Of course, this has nothing to do with MBPs, but I want people to know that teachers (at least this one) actually work hard for their BIG salaries. Frankly, Apple should give me a free MBP just to make up for the fact that I have to spend my hard-earned money on technology supplies for the classroom!
(Obviously, all this waiting for upgrades is making me crazy! We shall now return to our regularly scheduled programming. . . )
So, about those new MBPs. . .
ct-scan said:
Actually, most public schools are open on Columbus Day. I work in a public elementary school, and I didn't get the day off yesterday. Of course, this has nothing to do with MBPs, but I want people to know that teachers (at least this one) actually work hard for their BIG salaries. Frankly, Apple should give me a free MBP just to make up for the fact that I have to spend my hard-earned money on technology supplies for the classroom!
(Obviously, all this waiting for upgrades is making me crazy! We shall now return to our regularly scheduled programming. . . )
So, about those new MBPs. . .
poppe
macrumors 68020
I know how this sounds...
Today I was talking to a classmate, and he was explaining to me how he has a friend that works at an apple store (so obviously this guy knows nothing!).
What I found odd however is that this guy (the one at the apple store) is telling people to not by MBP's at this moment becuase he keeps hearing rumors that Apple is going back to PPC; or something to that effect.
I just laughed, but I'm curious has there been any rumors of such I thing?
I thought I once heard people saying of Apple perhaps taking on the new Cell processors that IBM has designed for the PS3.
I truly couldn't see why they would ditch intel for the simple fact of being able to run windows. This i feel is bringing alot of people over to the Mac side.
Well I don't know exactly why i'm telling you all this. Perhaps its just I felt very confused why an Apple employee would be telling people such a thing.
Today I was talking to a classmate, and he was explaining to me how he has a friend that works at an apple store (so obviously this guy knows nothing!).
What I found odd however is that this guy (the one at the apple store) is telling people to not by MBP's at this moment becuase he keeps hearing rumors that Apple is going back to PPC; or something to that effect.
I just laughed, but I'm curious has there been any rumors of such I thing?
I thought I once heard people saying of Apple perhaps taking on the new Cell processors that IBM has designed for the PS3.
I truly couldn't see why they would ditch intel for the simple fact of being able to run windows. This i feel is bringing alot of people over to the Mac side.
Well I don't know exactly why i'm telling you all this. Perhaps its just I felt very confused why an Apple employee would be telling people such a thing.
NeedingNirvana said:
I to work for a school (teacher) and feel as if we should get free computer hardware. It is quite frustrating, I guess I'll keep doing what I always to get the frustration out......Beating my students and yelling at them.
I was just kidding, I dun actually beat the students physically....just mentally. I am more of the bully type. I am a gym teacher
barkins
macrumors regular
poppe said:
That's just silly. I mean come on, lets be real, Apple spends all this money on advertising how they switched over to Intel and then to end up going back to PPC? 🙄
It's just not going to happen.
However the likelihood of a Merom MacBook Pro release anytime soon is diminishing as each week passes. 🙁
They'll probably release them in January.
barkins said:
That is quite true, I guess you just have to take everything with a grain of salt here that you hear. huh
macman2790
macrumors 6502a
macman2790
macrumors 6502a
poppe said:
And that right there tells you all you need to know.
poppe said:
No, Apple is done with PPC. PPC as an architecture is at the end of the road and its life cycle is done, over, retired. PPC was a joint venture between Apple, IBM, Motorola and others. IBM was left holding the major piece of the pie and has essentially ended development of the PPC architecture. Apple considered various options for the next line of CPUs to include in their systems and Intel won them over. Many industry experts predicted that AMD would win out, but in the end, I don't think AMD could make the same guarantees for production quantities and pricing that Intel could. After all, they're a lot smaller company even though they have done an incredible job at competing.
poppe said:
I've heard many such rumors and not just regarding Apple. Sony's hype machine and their loyal following of sheep-like zombies can run the BS like no one else. The reality of it is, the Cell processor isn't all that special. Compared to the current multi-core Intel chips or the tri-core chip used in the XBOX360, it's just another CPU architecture with similar performance per cost per watt. There's nothing radially different about Cell from any other current CPU architecture. Cell is more compact and in some ways less functional with the intent of using more cores (or cells) within a CPU structure. Theoretically this provides more flexibility to divide up various tasks. You can bet that PS3 is going to be noticeably more powerful than the XBOX 360, but it will have little to do with Cell itself, but rather just the general evolution of the industry... It's hitting the market with overall newer technology almost a year later and at a higher price with a new generation GPU, more RAM and much more data storage via Blu-Ray.
poppe said:
And you are right. The move to the x86 architecture (not necessarily Intel) was really the only move Apple had. Or at least the only real intelligent move they could make. Not only did it gain them the ability to somewhat unofficially support Windows, but also opened up an entire world of software developers and code base already optimized for the x86 architecture. This was a no-brianer. As time goes on and contracts run their course, it's very possible that Apple could shift from Intel, perhaps to AMD if conditions were right. However there's no way they will shift away from the x86 platform unless the entire PC industry makes the same move. It would be suicide for them. And they're definitely not going anywhere now, not after investing all the time and money into getting converted to the x86 platform.
poppe said:
Face it, you're just bored like me and tired and have nothing better to do. You can't sleep because this thread beckons to you every waking moment and you just know that the MBP update is going to happen tomorrow. And if not tomorrow, it will be next Tuesday, and if not then, probably wednesday, or perhaps the following tuesday... You see, you now belong to us as a collective. You have been assimilated by the great Steve Jobs MBP Mind-F**(n)K Experiment.