This was pry the main reason I got an SGII... no idea or even timeframe of when the JB would be out for the 4S. iPhone w/o JB is mehhh. Too used to SBS and it's integration with iOS 5 among quite a few other things I have running. Didn't want to get the 4S and be stuck w/ no JB, it could be released next week, or months and months from now. Nobody knows and the new system is more complicated to crack.