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"No one will ever need more than 64k of RAM."

Note: When Gates said that, he was talking about K of RAM, not gigs.
First, it was actually 640k
Second, he never said that. There are no proof and he has several times denied it:"I've said some stupid things and some wrong things, but not that. No one involved in computers would ever say that a certain amount of memory is enough for all time."
 
How do you know they're "less qualified" exactly?

Your words, not mine... Curious what information you have access to that helped you jump to that conclusion.

While you're at it, what does a qualified candidate look like?
Does it require ANY imagination whatsoever to determine that hiring people based on meaningless attributes like skin color or gender will result in people who are MORE qualified?
 
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How many cores are needed until adding more does not make tasks run faster?

Already for consumer tasks having more than about 4 or 8 is a waste. After all, it takes 6 minutes to watch a 6 minute cat video on YouTube, and having 40 cores will not help reduce the time to 2 minutes. Most consumer tasks are media consumption and computer speed does not matter. Storage speed does

Media transcoding can use a lot of computer power but nowadays much of the load is done on the GPU

I wonder if we have gotten to the point with computers that we reached with cars some time ago. What a faster car will not get you to work faster. So today few people care what a car's top speed is. Is this happing to computers?

Yes, I know there are special use cases. I'm one of them, I use a very fast Linux system for robotics development but that is an unusual case. And so is editing multi-track 4K video. Far more people watch movies than make them.
 
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How many cores are needed until adding more does not make tasks run faster?

Already for consumer tasks having more than about 4 or 8 is a waste. After all, it takes 6 minutes to watch a 6 minute cat video on YouTube, and having 40 cores will not help reduce the time to 2 minutes. Most consumer tasks are media consumption and computer speed does not matter. Storage speed does

Media transcoding can use a lot of computer power but nowadays much of the load is done on the GPU

I wonder if we have gotten to the point with computers that we reached with cars some time ago. What a faster car will not get you to work faster. So today few people care what a car's top speed is. Is this happing to computers?

Yes, I know there are special use cases. I'm one of them, I use a very fast Linux system for robotics development but that is an unusual case. And so is editing multi-track 4K video. Far more people watch movies than make them.
Price will indirectly push people to what they actually need to do their use case
 
It will be like the An and AnX chips on the iPhone and iPad. Newer gen An chip will usually get faster single core performance due to newer core design, while the older AnX will still be better at multi core and GPU performance.

The M2 will be better at single core, but will be a bit behind in the multi core and GPU performance compared to the M1 Pro and M1 Max, where they have more performance and GPU cores.

Plus, if Apple keep the same pattern as the M1, then the M2 won't get the video encoding engine that's in the M1 Pro/Max.
Given that Apple has introduced ProRes videorecording in their iPhones (Pro), the need to be able to efficiently handle the format now extends throughout their product stack down to the phones themselves.
I believe the strongest limitation on an M2 is that it will have to work in 11” tablets, with the associated thermal and power draw constraints. So I’d speculate that the greatest general gains will be from changing RAM type to LPDDR5.
Maybe (hopefully) they’ll beef up the I/O.
 
Given that Apple has introduced ProRes videorecording in their iPhones (Pro), the need to be able to efficiently handle the format now extends throughout their product stack down to the phones themselves.
I believe the strongest limitation on an M2 is that it will have to work in 11” tablets, with the associated thermal and power draw constraints. So I’d speculate that the greatest general gains will be from changing RAM type to LPDDR5.
Maybe (hopefully) they’ll beef up the I/O.
Imo the M2 will be consistent with the M1, ie. redesigned cores, but still 4 performance and 4 efficiency. This will maintain the power limit that exist on fanless form factors like Macbook Air and iPads.

Meanwhile, the Mn Pro/Max variants will reduce the efficiency cores and add more performance cores, just like the M1 Pro/Max has less efficiency cores but more performance cores compared to the regular M1.
 
How many cores are needed until adding more does not make tasks run faster?

Already for consumer tasks having more than about 4 or 8 is a waste. After all, it takes 6 minutes to watch a 6 minute cat video on YouTube, and having 40 cores will not help reduce the time to 2 minutes. Most consumer tasks are media consumption and computer speed does not matter. Storage speed does

Media transcoding can use a lot of computer power but nowadays much of the load is done on the GPU

I wonder if we have gotten to the point with computers that we reached with cars some time ago. What a faster car will not get you to work faster. So today few people care what a car's top speed is. Is this happing to computers?

Yes, I know there are special use cases. I'm one of them, I use a very fast Linux system for robotics development but that is an unusual case. And so is editing multi-track 4K video. Far more people watch movies than make them.
that's the most reason big core and small core .not all have 4k screen or 8k ?? in f1 , car is optimise oil consumption to max. and not all other chip like ram covert those 5 nm thing.

apple doing max consumption optimize like f1.
 
How many cores are needed until adding more does not make tasks run faster?

Already for consumer tasks having more than about 4 or 8 is a waste. After all, it takes 6 minutes to watch a 6 minute cat video on YouTube, and having 40 cores will not help reduce the time to 2 minutes. Most consumer tasks are media consumption and computer speed does not matter. Storage speed does

Media transcoding can use a lot of computer power but nowadays much of the load is done on the GPU

I wonder if we have gotten to the point with computers that we reached with cars some time ago. What a faster car will not get you to work faster. So today few people care what a car's top speed is. Is this happing to computers?

Yes, I know there are special use cases. I'm one of them, I use a very fast Linux system for robotics development but that is an unusual case. And so is editing multi-track 4K video. Far more people watch movies than make them.
That's why Apple is actually saying that for most people, the iPad is already good enough. You are correct. For basic stuff, even the A10 on the iPhone 7 is good enough. The A10 can already play 4K videos (used in the Apple TV 4K 1st gen). If you only use your computer to watch cat videos on youtube, you probably don't eve need a Mac. The basic iPad is more than enough. And Apple's decision to go with nVME starting with the iPhone 6s onward is the best bet they did as it ensure storage speed on their portables to not be a bottleneck.
 
Does it require ANY imagination whatsoever to determine that hiring people based on meaningless attributes like skin color or gender will result in people who are MORE qualified?

Well apparently, I don't imagine things... I try to have objective evidence to support my claims.

So once again I'm asking how you know these candidates are not qualified?

How do you know these candidates are being selected based on skin color alone? And what exactly constitutes a qualified candidate?

These should be simple questions for you to answer since you're the one making these bold claims.
 
Why are so many of you hellbent that Intel folds? Is your fanboyism so great that you actually want a monopoly? Do you not remember what lack of competition looked like for Intel? Consumers lost for years.

You really want that to happen again?
Completely agree. If power usage isn't an issue and you want a nice chunky rendering / gaming rig then the intel is a no brainer. AMD were terrible 20 years ago (well cheap but ran so hot!) and now offer fantastic chips, my M1 Max MBP is being delivered soon as well and will be my main work horse, having genuine choice is wonderful.
 
Well apparently, I don't imagine things... I try to have objective evidence to support my claims.

So once again I'm asking how you know these candidates are not qualified?

How do you know these candidates are being selected based on skin color alone? And what exactly constitutes a qualified candidate?

These should be simple questions for you to answer since you're the one making these bold claims.
Yeah you're ignoring reality in order to try to turn the question around and make yourself seem smart. That's enough.
 
Yeah you're ignoring reality in order to try to turn the question around and make yourself seem smart. That's enough.

Bro, this isn't really that difficult. You're making claims, and I'm asking you to back them up.

You seem so convinced that Apple is hiring people who aren't qualified; I'm asking you how you know they're not qualified. You didn't sit in their interviews, you have no knowledge of their work performance.

So to me it sounds like you have the habit of talking about things you know nothing about. You don't actually know whether Apple is hiring unqualified candidates; if you did, you should have shared how you know by now.

You also seem to have this idea of what a qualified candidate actually is. If Apple has shared that info with you somehow, you can maybe fill us in so we understand why you're making these silly claims.
 
Bro, this isn't really that difficult. You're making claims, and I'm asking you to back them up.

You seem so convinced that Apple is hiring people who aren't qualified; I'm asking you how you know they're not qualified. You didn't sit in their interviews, you have no knowledge of their work performance.

So to me it sounds like you have the habit of talking about things you know nothing about. You don't actually know whether Apple is hiring unqualified candidates; if you did, you should have shared how you know by now.

You also seem to have this idea of what a qualified candidate actually is. If Apple has shared that info with you somehow, you can maybe fill us in so we understand why you're making these silly claims.
I've already answered your question, and you refuse to accept the answer. You cannot hire people based on unrelated characteristics such as gender or race or sexual identity and have that magically translate to hiring the most qualified people. That's simply fantasy. Repeating HOW DO YOU KNOW over and over is not argument. You take common sense, and say HOW DO YOU KNOW ITS COMMON SENSE. That isn't a position, or standpoint to take in discussion.
 
The limit to all this are the limits of human perception.
The meta verse will eventually require computing power enough to emulate at least the viewable portion of our universe from a first person pov as good as reality.
 
I've already answered your question, and you refuse to accept the answer. You cannot hire people based on unrelated characteristics such as gender or race or sexual identity and have that magically translate to hiring the most qualified people. That's simply fantasy. Repeating HOW DO YOU KNOW over and over is not argument. You take common sense, and say HOW DO YOU KNOW ITS COMMON SENSE. That isn't a position, or standpoint to take in discussion.
So this just sounds like a long way of admitting you just want to believe that they're unqualified, you actually have no basis for that statement.

Got it, carry on believing whatever you want to believe.
 
So this just sounds like a long way of admitting you just want to believe that they're unqualified, you actually have no basis for that statement.

Got it, carry on believing whatever you want to believe.
You already have the definitive proof that they are less than qualified. You refuse to see it, because you want to continue playing this part where you pretend you don't have this information, and keep asking for it over and over in a one way blind fashion that makes it seem like you're coming out on top of the conversation.

I don't think you even realize how transparent and common your argument tactic is.
 
Yeah, I'm pretty optimistic and excited about these Apple Silicon developments. Especially since I was really blown away by the speed and performance on my M1 MacBook Air. I am definitely looking forward to getting a headless Mac desktop with a later-gen higher-end Apple Silicon chip to replace my 2012 i7 Mac Mini (either the rumored Mac Mini using the M1 Pro chip, or the similar rumored "Mac Pro Cube.")
 
You already have the definitive proof that they are less than qualified. You refuse to see it, because you want to continue playing this part where you pretend you don't have this information, and keep asking for it over and over in a one way blind fashion that makes it seem like you're coming out on top of the conversation.

I don't think you even realize how transparent and common your argument tactic is.
I think you should either put up or shut up.

You keep claiming the proof is obvious yet you have a seemingly impossible time explaining why an effort to hire more women and minorities means the women and minorities actually being hired are less qualified.

By your own statements here you seem to think all (yes all) women and minorities in tech are implicitly unqualified and Apple is somehow paying them $180,000 as a favor.

I'm asking how you know the ones that Apple is hiring are unqualified... You keep coming back with drivel that pretty much amounts to "because they're not white men".

If you don't feel like answering simply don't respond; no one is forcing you to engage with me... But if you do bother replying, then answer me why you think these people are not qualified despite all their schooling and experience.
 
I think you should either put up or shut up.

You keep claiming the proof is obvious yet you have a seemingly impossible time explaining why an effort to hire more women and minorities means the women and minorities actually being hired are less qualified.

By your own statements here you seem to think all (yes all) women and minorities in tech are implicitly unqualified and Apple is somehow paying them $180,000 as a favor.

I'm asking how you know the ones that Apple is hiring are unqualified... You keep coming back with drivel that pretty much amounts to "because they're not white men".

If you don't feel like answering simply don't respond; no one is forcing you to engage with me... But if you do bother replying, then answer me why you think these people are not qualified despite all their schooling and experience.
You keep repeating the same thing over and over. I already pointed out how this is not a strategy for argument. You can't keep ignoring what has been given to you, and saying NO you need to answer my question. This is a very common strategy for people who aren't able to win arguments with information, instead they keep repeating the same thing and pretending their questions haven't been addressed.
 
You keep repeating the same thing over and over. I already pointed out how this is not a strategy for argument. You can't keep ignoring what has been given to you, and saying NO you need to answer my question. This is a very common strategy for people who aren't able to win arguments with information, instead they keep repeating the same thing and pretending their questions haven't been addressed.

If you don't feel like answering simply don't respond; no one is forcing you to engage with me... But if you do bother replying, then answer me why you think these people are not qualified despite all their schooling and experience.
 
Good news, especially for the power users. For the average consumer, I'm not sure how much difference this will make. They'll more benefit from the speed gains per-core or GPU core, etc. like we see in iPhones each year. But, I suppose something will take advantage of all the extra cores.

What we still need to hear a bit more about is the future of GPUs. Sure, 64-cores, 128-cores is expected and sounds cool, but that's just kinda-sorta approaching the power of the Intel Mac Pro with two dual-GPUs, assuming the devs start coding for Metal (otherwise, it is a GPU performance loss).

Will Apple fix this in software by putting drivers and eGPU technology back in? Or, will Apple make eGPUs with X number of cores of Apple Silicon GPUs in them? Whatever the case, this seems to still be the weak point in the road map. Apple is kind of blowing everyone out of the water in other regards.
 
Apple needs offering more variant of combination of CPU/GPU count, memory capacity and band width.

For now, I must go M1 Max to get 64GB of RAM, even I'm sure I'll never ever need 32 GPUs to utilize all that 400Gb of memory band width.

If I were to get new M1 Mac, I'll want a M1 Pro supporting max of 64GB or more; its 14 or 16 GPU cores are more than enough for my work load.
 
Apple needs offering more variant of combination of CPU/GPU count, memory capacity and band width.

For now, I must go M1 Max to get 64GB of RAM, even I'm sure I'll never ever need 32 GPUs to utilize all that 400Gb of memory band width.

If I were to get new M1 Mac, I'll want a M1 Pro supporting max of 64GB or more; its 14 or 16 GPU cores are more than enough for my work load.
You can get a slightly lower spec model with 24 GPU cores and still get 64GB RAM. In the US it’ll save you $200.
 
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