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Yes. But could the US, at a moments notice, move 30000 people needed for work from say Houston to New York? Because places like China can.

Sure... we would re-learn. The US has done it in the past. I do not believe we don't have a very eager and willing work force here. Heck.. I'm sure much of inner city poor would love to have opportunities to learn new skills and make an honest working wage. Way better than selling drugs and living off of handouts from the government.
 
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Yes. But could the US, at a moments notice, move 30000 people needed for work from say Houston to New York? Because places like China can.

In that case, it would be all the better to impose a high tariff on these imports, as that tax revenue would go to help the United States in other ways, even if the manufacturing paradigm doesn't change one bit. I'm not really arguing for or against, just pointing out that sweeping the more important reason for outsourcing (not just for Apple, but for nearly all large companies) under the rug is slightly amusing, and apparently provocative of an interesting discussion.
 
Sure... we would re-learn. The US has done it in the past. I do not believe we don't have a very eager and willing work force here. Heck.. I'm sure much of inner city poor would love to have opportunities to learn new skills and make an honest working wage. Way better than selling drugs and living off of handouts from the government.
What past was that?
 
this won't create new jobs at all.

Yea you are right. Facilities for these manufactuing lines dont need to be built or upgraded. Once built these robots will be able to service themselves and never break. Yep...you are correct..no jobs at all /s

**mumbles "idiot"**
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Please read the article of how Foxconn noted of how much more expensive it would be to move jobs to here. It's like you people can't read.

Its like you cant realize that of course Foxconn would say that.
 
Please read the article of how Foxconn noted of how much more expensive it would be to move jobs to here. It's like you people can't read.
I read it, it said costs would double. Who do you think will get squeezed on that deal?

And who are"You people" anyway?
 
I read it, it said costs would double. Who do you think will get squeezed on that deal?

And who are"You people" anyway?

There is such a thing as a minimum wage. Compare China's to USA's. Then use some logic to think.
 
Sure... we would re-learn. The US has done it in the past. I do not believe we don't have a very eager and willing work force here. Heck.. I'm sure much of inner city poor would love to have opportunities to learn new skills and make an honest working wage. Way better than selling drugs and living off of handouts from the government.

Inner city poor sell and use less drugs than their rural and suburban counterparts. And people in rural areas live of the gov't just as much and maybe even more.

You no like suburban and rural people? You only want the jobs to go to the inner cities?
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He would say "this is Yuge!"
Sorry, I couldn't help myself :p

Fixed it for ya.
 
Glad to know the US is now on the same level as haiti. Man the stuff some people say
The example in Haiti illustrate a form of economics that intrinsically springs up and endures and enables people to flourish when some form of devastation hits and traditional employment with big employers disappears. Anyway it's a form or model of economics that can be adapted to work anywhere. It emphasizes making the most of local resources and whatever infrastructure is available. It can even be used in areas that are perfectly fine. In America it translates to encouraging small businesses, as BOTH presidential candidates pledged to do. While it does spring up naturally it needs nurturing to be sustainable.

In the US with so much stacked in the favor of big business it can be challenging for small business and small economies to survive.

As for equating the US with Haiti, I can't imagine how you interpreted that from my post. But since you chose to go there, okay let's be honest, there are places in the US where poverty is pretty bad. I've seen it. I've taken part in charity drives to help alleviate it. I've even lived in the middle of it among neighbors who couldn't pay any of their bills and feed their kids. We didn't even know they were hungry that way or my mom would have fed them. We thought their mom just had not gotten around to making dinner yet and that's why they were so hungry when they came over one day saying they were hungry. We lived right next to them attached in the same duplex and we didn't know how bad things had gotten for them until a few days later, when we saw all their stuff out on the street and the little girls came over crying and begged me to take their pet kittens so the kittens could have a better life than they were having. We had no freaking idea that level of desperation was right under the roof we shared. And one by one more and more of the families on our street ended up with their belongings out on the street. If that's not devastation, I don't know what else to call it.
 
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Well Ok (I think) I am not sure how to take parts of your statement.

It is not racist to mention that someone is white nor should it be considered derogatory to be uneducated. Not everyone goes to college and get a degree for a variety of reasons.

IMHO, the problem lots of people have with Drumpt supporters is that they support the same candidate that the alt right and KKK like minded people support. But I think that is a different discussion.
I love Rogifan and don't want to drag this out any further. It was a tone and context I was responding to. Rogifan cleared up her position further along in another response to me. And you are right.
 
Bring on the automation. I'm tired of getting monitors and other screens with dust particles, hair, eye lashes (I'm totally serious, it's happened several times) underneath the screens. No way does the U.S. have enough human workers for Apple projects. People complain enough as it is having to wait 1 month after launch of the iPhone to get a phone. Imagine adding 2 more months (Edit, more likely 6 months) on top of that due to lack of assemblers.
 
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Inner city poor sell and use less drugs than their rural and suburban counterparts. And people in rural areas live of the gov't just as much and maybe even more.

You no like suburban and rural people? You only want the jobs to go to the inner cities?
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Fixed it for ya.
I don't think that what the post was implying. Drugs and the need for government assistance are a problem all over the place and indeed not specific to any one location. We need jobs everywhere and I think, or at least hope the post was simply stating that unemployed people in the inner cities would ALSO welcome such an opportunity over current alternatives of life on welfare or immersed in the drug trade.

I've lived in a very badly blighted suburb outside of DC where it took almost a generation to achieve, but education initiatives and growing job opportunities with the federal government have helped get people off of public assistance and away from the drug trade. It's not a done deal yet but many good people I know survived and made it out of a bad cycle.
 
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Taking a political talking point during a raucous election literally is misguided. The agenda that will be passed by Congress and signed by the President will be a modest change to tax laws, investment deductions, marginal rates, etc., that will incentivise companies generally to increasingly manufacture in the US.

The government does not generally pick out one manufacturer and target them. It will not next year either. It will have some changes to legislation and regulation that is more biased to domestic businesses over foreign businesses. That's all.

Cook correctly notes the shortage of Vocational education in this country. Increasing that would be a great thing.

Supplementing what you are saying... I know that the Air Force has switched over entirely from Blackberry to iPhone. That is a huge number of phones handed out to military personnel (not everyone, only those designated as needing a phone for business).

In this way, the government could very well apply some pressure toward a particular manufacturer.
 
Bring on the automation. I'm tired of getting monitors and other screens with dust particles, hair, eye lashes (I'm totally serious, it's happened several times) underneath the screens. No way does the U.S. have enough human workers for Apple projects. People complain enough as it is having to wait 1 month after launch of the iPhone to get a phone. Imagine adding 2 more months (Edit, more likely 6 months) on top of that due to lack of assemblers.
Do we have to do ALL of the manufacturing in this country? I don't think that's even what Apple and Foxconn were investigating. I think they were talking about the feasibility of locating one factory in the US.

I don't see why phones meant to be sold to Asian markets can't still be made in China and phones meant to be sold in Western markets can't be made here. Eventually...way down the line, there could be logistical advantages.
 
I'm an American, they are an American. If something I chose to buy gives me two options, A) benefits an American worker or B)benefits (insert foreign country name here) worker. I exchange my money for the goods/services that benefit the American.
Whew...that natoinalism talk is scary. We've seen this is past before.
 
Do we have to do ALL of the manufacturing in this country? I don't think that's even what Apple and Foxconn were investigating. I think they were talking about the feasibility of locating one factory in the US.

I don't see why phones meant to be sold to Asian markets can't still be made in China and phones meant to be sold in Western markets can't be made here. Eventually...way down the line, there could be logistical advantages.

Because the parts necessary to build phones are made in Southeast Asia. Logistics dictates you build near where your supply comes from.
 
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