By almost $100.
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Why would I buy a phone if the reviews confirm that it continues the tradition of poor LTE battery life?
The 32 Gb iphone 4S is the same price as the Galaxy Nexus which also has 32 Gb of storage.
By almost $100.
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Why would I buy a phone if the reviews confirm that it continues the tradition of poor LTE battery life?
The 32 Gb iphone 4S is the same price as the Galaxy Nexus which also has 32 Gb of storage.
Hey genius, I don't have the LTE version. I have the gsm version....so umm yeah...No kidding LTE phones have poor battery life..tell me something I don't know.. And THAT is why I don't have the LTE version. So again, my battery life is just fine... genius...
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As for that chart he posted, there's plenty wrong with it. I stated a couple issues with it a few posts back. The data it displays is completely and severely flawed. How can you make a chart of data with no constant? That's a pretty piss poor job of drawing up statistics.
GSM or Verizon? Because neither have user upgradable memory.
I have no issues with the GSM model, it is just unfortunate it cannot be had in the US markets without subsidy.
GSM or Verizon? Because neither have user upgradable memory.
I have no issues with the GSM model, it is just unfortunate it cannot be had in the US markets without subsidy.
remember that the i4 has a 3.5 inch screen where the nexus has a 4.6 - this will greatly impact your battery life. If the i4 had the same screen size I doubt it would get anywhere near the battery life it gets right now. Just something to bear in mind.
I cant believe battery life is still an argument iphone users make. Battery life on iphone 4s sucks.
remember that the i4 has a 3.5 inch screen where the nexus has a 4.6 - this will greatly impact your battery life. If the i4 had the same screen size I doubt it would get anywhere near the battery life it gets right now. Just something to bear in mind.
Not true. Since Android phones use to have smaller size screens than the iphone and still got terrible battery life then. Android O/S kills any battery you put at it due to a poorly written O/S.
I decided not to buy the nexus and will wait for the SGS3 when its announced in february. Reasons:
- No expandable memory. Cloud storage is only worth in USA with 4G. And I dont want to pay a 20$ data plan. I like and need SD storage.
- Pentile display.
- Lag. Ive seen it.
- Camera just like the iPhone 4 I already have. Dont like the 0 shutter speed since it makes pictures blurry.
- Too expensive unlocked for its hardware, specially considering quad core and Tegra 3 are a few months away.
- No FM radio.
SGS3 is gonna be so so awesome. The HTC Edge also looks amazing with Tegra 3.
Hey guys, I have a shot story and then Nexus vs iPhone experience to share.
I switched from Sprint to Verizon on Saturday. Sprint screwed up my wife's phone and I'd had enough of their BS so we bailed. My wife was happy because going to Verizon she was able to get a new iPhone; I having been on Android platforms for a year (I had the iPhones 1-4 when I was with AT&T prior to Sprint) decided to go with the Galaxy Nexus. Verizon, however, apparently cannot provide coverage at my house, and after a few cordial phone calls they recommended I switch to a different carrier. I decided to go back to AT&T because after a year of CDMA I was ready for a good dose of GSM.
So for three days I had the Galaxy Nexus. No, it's not a long time to base an opinion on, but having had a Nexus S prior to the GN I am pretty familiar with Android and Samsung.
The GN is fast; one of the smoothest Android experiences you're going to have out there. Unfortunately, it takes that much horsepower to make it smooth; the way Android was designed and continues to process graphical information inherintly causes lagging in animations, including scrolling. It's not as noticeable as on lesser-powered phones to be sure, but it's nowhere near as smooth as iOS on the 4S and frankly I believe that anyone who says otherwise either has never experienced the 4S or is deluding themselves.
For me, the phone looked nice but felt kind of cheap. It was also too big to hold and use comfortably with one hand, and I have pretty meaty hands. I also have minor carpal tunnel syndrome, so stretching my thumb the height of the phone to pull down the notification bar was tough at times. The screen is nice and big but when you get down to it looks no nicer than the 4S' screen; it's just bigger.
Reception on the phone on Verizon's network was pitiful. Verizon has already acknowledged this and said they are looking for a software fix, but my experience with Samsung and CDMA networks tells me that this is probably going to get swept under the rug as much as possible. GPS also took a long time to lock on; another Samsung trait.
If you take a look at the Galaxy Nexus forum on XDA, you'll see tons of complaints about power drain. LTE certainly will kill the phone, as will poor connectivity. But outside of those two issues, there appears to be a bug in ICS that is affecting other phones as well that is causing the phone to stay awake too long. Combined with the reception issue, the battery life on the Verizon GN suffers big time.
ICS is nice to be sure, but as a longtime iOS and Android user, it's clear that Google took a lot of inspiration from Apple for Android 4.0. The new folder system is a perfect example of this; ripped almost right out of iOS. Of course you could make a counter-argument for the notification system in iOS 5, so this is really a quibble.
Today, with my shiny iPhone 4S sitting where my GN was yesterday, I am much happier. I had an interesting year with Android, and there were times when I truly thought that Android was it for me and I wouldn't go back to iOS. But the GN actually made me change my mind. Take that for what it's worth.
Yup....but I feel I need to quote mysterioustko before he chimes in.
"Elaborate, with specifics please"
BTW that's why I say iOS > Android OS (hardware is irrelevant)
Hey guys, I have a shot story and then Nexus vs iPhone experience to share.
I switched from Sprint to Verizon on Saturday. Sprint screwed up my wife's phone and I'd had enough of their BS so we bailed. My wife was happy because going to Verizon she was able to get a new iPhone; I having been on Android platforms for a year (I had the iPhones 1-4 when I was with AT&T prior to Sprint) decided to go with the Galaxy Nexus. Verizon, however, apparently cannot provide coverage at my house, and after a few cordial phone calls they recommended I switch to a different carrier. I decided to go back to AT&T because after a year of CDMA I was ready for a good dose of GSM.
So for three days I had the Galaxy Nexus. No, it's not a long time to base an opinion on, but having had a Nexus S prior to the GN I am pretty familiar with Android and Samsung.
The GN is fast; one of the smoothest Android experiences you're going to have out there. Unfortunately, it takes that much horsepower to make it smooth; the way Android was designed and continues to process graphical information inherintly causes lagging in animations, including scrolling. It's not as noticeable as on lesser-powered phones to be sure, but it's nowhere near as smooth as iOS on the 4S and frankly I believe that anyone who says otherwise either has never experienced the 4S or is deluding themselves.
For me, the phone looked nice but felt kind of cheap. It was also too big to hold and use comfortably with one hand, and I have pretty meaty hands. I also have minor carpal tunnel syndrome, so stretching my thumb the height of the phone to pull down the notification bar was tough at times. The screen is nice and big but when you get down to it looks no nicer than the 4S' screen; it's just bigger.
Reception on the phone on Verizon's network was pitiful. Verizon has already acknowledged this and said they are looking for a software fix, but my experience with Samsung and CDMA networks tells me that this is probably going to get swept under the rug as much as possible. GPS also took a long time to lock on; another Samsung trait.
If you take a look at the Galaxy Nexus forum on XDA, you'll see tons of complaints about power drain. LTE certainly will kill the phone, as will poor connectivity. But outside of those two issues, there appears to be a bug in ICS that is affecting other phones as well that is causing the phone to stay awake too long. Combined with the reception issue, the battery life on the Verizon GN suffers big time.
ICS is nice to be sure, but as a longtime iOS and Android user, it's clear that Google took a lot of inspiration from Apple for Android 4.0. The new folder system is a perfect example of this; ripped almost right out of iOS. Of course you could make a counter-argument for the notification system in iOS 5, so this is really a quibble.
Today, with my shiny iPhone 4S sitting where my GN was yesterday, I am much happier. I had an interesting year with Android, and there were times when I truly thought that Android was it for me and I wouldn't go back to iOS. But the GN actually made me change my mind. Take that for what it's worth.
As ericwalker stated, could you provide something a bit more specific?
EDIT: Actually, I will comment on a few things: I had no signal at my house, but I used the phone away from my house too, including at work where it struggled to maintain a connection to 3G. I had set the phone to CDMA-only because LTE was draining the battery so fast when I was in the city. I'm not a hermit, so I used the phone in a lot of varied places in San Antonio over those three days.
You're right that my opinions are probably colored a little by what I read about the phone (on several different forums and sites, not just XDA) as I tend to get involved with the communities of the gadgets I buy. However, I am a relatively balanced guy and I know when to take things with a grain of salt. There is a pretty large consensus that there's an issue with ICS that is causing battery drain; the Nexus S users who got the OTA are experiencing it too. As someone who had a rooted NS4G and ran several ICS ROMs (aosp's oICS ROM for example) with various custom kernels (MathKid's Matrix kernel among others), I can tell you that the battery life on those were amazing. Something happened in the official release that is causing problems, from what I can tell.
It doesn't take a day to see what is using the battery; you can extrapolate based on samples of what is going on throughout the day as long as you're not doing something out of the ordinary. I am not the only one who experienced these things, and though I already acknowledged that three days is really not enough time to get provide a detailed and scholarly review of the device, I have no problem sharing my opinion based on limited experience and information gleaned from others.
As for the screen, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I watched an HD video on the Nexus and I didn't really see what made it so ball-droppingly spectacular, but maybe I'm just not discerning enough a user. IMO, it was just a big, clear display that you had to keep the brightness down on if you wanted anything approaching decent battery life.
Anyway, as I already indicated these are just my opinions based on limited experience with the phone. It wasn't my taste, and that's coming from a former NS4G fan (despite Samsung issues like again reception and GPS issues).
LTE is quite draining anyway, hence why Verizon was never even a consideration...especially since their 3g is horrendous. As for what you stated about the "large consensus", you mean the same group of people that were demanding a recall over a volume bug because they thought it had to do with shielding...and all it needed was a simple ota fix? That large consensus? ICS isn't draining the battery and that is made apparent if you leave the phone stock with nothing on it. There are some apps that wake the cpu and can cause drain, this is something that is easily reproduced, but that's a whole different conversation. And by the way, your "large consensus" is actually just a small number of people who are posting repeatedly in the same threads..it's not nearly as large as you think. As for the screen, of course it's a large clear screen but it also has a contrast ratio higher than most lcd tv's, and yes when watching hd content (especially hd content that has a lot of shadow and darkness) it definitely shows. There is nothing in the US market that is comparable to it. As for the battery, no you can't extrapolate the rest of the day. It doesn't work that way. The first 10% drain on the battery doesn't take the same amount of time as the 2nd 10%. In order to get a true representation of OS battery drain, you have to actually allow it to drain. You stated ICS battery drain, but did not have enough time to see what the actual awake time was on your device to even know if that was causing your issue or not (which it probably wasn't). BTW, my gps locks almost instantly.