Galaxy Nexus vs. iPhone 4S

[mysterioustko]

Negatives:

-Battery life is so bad that the phone loses power even with it being plugged in! During testing, I went from 100% to 80% in 60 minutes. 80% to 52% in 60 minutes, and 52% to the battery warning 14% in 55 minutes for a total of almost 3 hours of time. This was with normal browsing, one gmail account synced, and twitter synced by the hour. WiFi was on as well. Oh yeah, it took me 3 1/2 hours to fully charge compared to less than 1 hour on the 4S.

I call BS. The battery does not drain anything even remotely that quickly and I've got screenshots to back that up. I really call BS on you saying it drains while you're charging it. It sounds like you're using some old bluetooth headset charger that you had laying around, instead of using the proper charger with the proper output. You confirm my suspicions when state it took you 3.5 hours to charge the device. The device can charge from a depleted battery (where the phone shuts itself off) to 100% in 120min, and that's with a phone call going the entire time. So if your charge time was more than double that, then it's obvious you didn't use the charger that came with the phone or a charger that had the same output as the one that came with the phone.

-Signal is terrible! One bar at home where I normally have 4. Many dropped calls. I walked into the local macys and signal immediately dropped down 3 bars resulting in another dropped call.

I've had the phone much longer than you and have not had a single dropped call nor experience any signal issues.

-Call volume is low. The phone will have to be super-glued to your face to talk while in a car.

In call volume is fine. Hearing loss maybe?

-ICS is bittersweet with many ups and downs. "Camera cannot connect", clock is not responding, and force closing are all normal for the OS after the new shine wears off!

The camera issue you stated and a clock not responding I have never experienced nor heard of. As for force closes, every now again I get them on apps that haven't been updated yet but overall their pretty rare.

-Flash does not work all the time. It would not load certain videos from the Verge or Yahoo news.

Haven't had this issue either...could you direct me to some specific videos that don't play?

All in all Google/Samsung delivers a rushed product that was meant to trounce the iPhone "5". It can't even beat the 4S IMO. I gave Android/Nexus multiple chances giving them the benefit of the doubt thinking that it was finally safe to step foot in their neighborhood..Think again, it's still messy as hell!

I'll be blunt, your list sounds like it was compiled not from personal experience, but by going on a forum and just jotting down a few things you saw a few people say. Either this isn't based on your experience, or you really don't know much about phones. For example, the charging time you talked about. There is no way the phone to 3.5 hours to charge, and there is no way it was draining while charging. Neither of those things would be possible UNLESS you are using the wrong charger. So that's either made up or it's your own fault. As for the other things I addressed, it really sounds like went and copied a bunch of things you ran across in some forums. Some of your complaints aren't even applicable for the GSM model and is an issue for the LTE VERSION (like signal strength). And a couple of the issues you mentioned just flat out sound like their either fabricated or are a result of you unsuccessfully attempting to mod the phone.

 

[Bonnyluckydog]

Google's Galaxy Nexus is much better than an iPhone 4s. Android's openness leads to innovation and creativity. The Ice Cream Sandwich is a breath of fresh air. iPhone 4s is old and boring. Their user interface hasn't changed in years. It feels like groundhog day. Apple's simplicity is just double-speak for being lazy.

Who needs an iPhone, when there's an Galaxy Nexus?

 

[blackhawk526]

Funny...

I call BS. The battery does not drain anything even remotely that quickly and I've got screenshots to back that up. I really call BS on you saying it drains while you're charging it. It sounds like you're using some old bluetooth headset charger that you had laying around, instead of using the proper charger with the proper output. You confirm my suspicions when state it took you 3.5 hours to charge the device. The device can charge from a depleted battery (where the phone shuts itself off) to 100% in 120min, and that's with a phone call going the entire time. So if your charge time was more than double that, then it's obvious you didn't use the charger that came with the phone or a charger that had the same output as the one that came with the phone.


I've had the phone much longer than you and have not had a single dropped call nor experience any signal issues.


In call volume is fine. Hearing loss maybe?


The camera issue you stated and a clock not responding I have never experienced nor heard of. As for force closes, every now again I get them on apps that haven't been updated yet but overall their pretty rare.



Haven't had this issue either...could you direct me to some specific videos that don't play?



I'll be blunt, your list sounds like it was compiled not from personal experience, but by going on a forum and just jotting down a few things you saw a few people say. Either this isn't based on your experience, or you really don't know much about phones. For example, the charging time you talked about. There is no way the phone to 3.5 hours to charge, and there is no way it was draining while charging. Neither of those things would be possible UNLESS you are using the wrong charger. So that's either made up or it's your own fault. As for the other things I addressed, it really sounds like went and copied a bunch of things you ran across in some forums. Some of your complaints aren't even applicable for the GSM model and is an issue for the LTE VERSION (like signal strength). And a couple of the issues you mentioned just flat out sound like their either fabricated or are a result of you unsuccessfully attempting to mod the phone.

WOW..I ordered it new straight from the UK for $750 and used it just as I would any other phone with the same 10 or so apps and you tell me I jotted down a list of problems from forums..BS!! The list of problems you see everywhere are real! I reported "my" problems which may be different from yours!. If Apple released a phone with this many bugs, it would make headlines across the world!

Oh yeah, I got force close on stock apps that are supposed to be optimized for ICS as well. Good luck with hearing all of the puny sounding ringtones such as Girtab which is the one it's set to out of the box. I hear just fine on every other phone and I won't even begin to talk about the laughable speakerphone!! Overall, it's a mediocre phone with the only thing Samsung is good at..making displays! Better off waiting until ICS is refined/matured which will be right around the same time Google releases Android 5.0! Or at least wait until it's on better hardware with a better battery instead of cheap plastic.

 

[kevinof]

I call it BS too. I have one for the last 3 weeks and not a singe force close on any app. It charges on 1 1/2 hours max from virtually empty and lasts at least from 7 am to midnight with average 30% left. That's with a lot of use in terms of texting, browsing, email and lots of calls (> 2 hours on average).

You may not like it, you may think the iphone/ios is better and that's ok but your feedback is at odds with so many other owners and reviewers.

So yes. I'd definitely term what you posted as BS.

WOW..I ordered it new straight from the UK for $750 and used it just as I would any other phone with the same 10 or so apps and you tell me I jotted down a list of problems from forums..BS!! The list of problems you see everywhere are real! I reported "my" problems which may be different from yours!. If Apple released a phone with this many bugs, it would make headlines across the world!

Oh yeah, I got force close on stock apps that are supposed to be optimized for ICS as well. Good luck with hearing all of the puny sounding ringtones such as Girtab which is the one it's set to out of the box. I hear just fine on every other phone and I won't even begin to talk about the laughable speakerphone!! Overall, it's a mediocre phone with the only thing Samsung is good at..making displays! Better off waiting until ICS is refined/matured which will be right around the same time Google releases Android 5.0! Or at least wait until it's on better hardware with a better battery instead of cheap plastic.

 

[Vegastouch]

WOW..I ordered it new straight from the UK for $750 and used it just as I would any other phone with the same 10 or so apps and you tell me I jotted down a list of problems from forums..BS!! The list of problems you see everywhere are real! I reported "my" problems which may be different from yours!. If Apple released a phone with this many bugs, it would make headlines across the world!

Oh yeah, I got force close on stock apps that are supposed to be optimized for ICS as well. Good luck with hearing all of the puny sounding ringtones such as Girtab which is the one it's set to out of the box. I hear just fine on every other phone and I won't even begin to talk about the laughable speakerphone!! Overall, it's a mediocre phone with the only thing Samsung is good at..making displays! Better off waiting until ICS is refined/matured which will be right around the same time Google releases Android 5.0! Or at least wait until it's on better hardware with a better battery instead of cheap plastic.

LOL...... Yes, the antenna problem was widely known but Steve just said you were holding it wrong and offered a cheap bumper to help mask the problem. Anyways, looks like you got a bad phone for which id never order one from the UK just because of the issues you are stating...which i think are widely exaggerrated. If you can get another one, i think id do that. You must of just got a bad one but if you cant...thats your fault for not waiting for them to get here.

The worst volume ive ver had was from the iPhone. Every other phone ive had , the ringer and music volume was much higher than the iphone. Dont know why they cant make it so your ringer is loud but they dont.

 

[TechnoTonis]

I literally joined this forum because of some of the stupid replies I saw from both sides of this fence in the whole "Android vs iOS" nonsense...so I figured I could clear up a few things and or answer any questions as a completely unbias source, technology enthusiast, and current Gnex owner.

Myth 1: The Gnex gets horrible battery life

While I can't comment on those owners of the GSM variant, or certainly for every Verizon Gnex owner - I can tell you that I have presently been surprised with how good the battery life has been with my phone over the first 5 days of owning it.

Someone posted up a graph of the phone getting something like 3 hours and some change on battery through normal use?

Well I have no clue how that test was conducted, but I've run tests against my previous iPhone4 and OG Droid... and I can honestly and completely say the phone gets as good of battery life if not better most days... just yesterday I went 14hrs on pretty decent amount of normal use (web, text, 4g and wi-fi) until it dropped below 14% and I decided to charge it.

I'll be here to answer any questions anyone has based off my personal experiences with the phone, but overall - I like it a lot.

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Galaxy Nexus has terrible battery life, and anyone who cannot go a day without charging their phone would be a fool to buy one.

Yeah, this is the guy I want to quote directly.

As a former iPhone4 owner and current Gnex owner - this is completely untrue. I couldn't tell a difference in battery life between the two right before getting the Gnex or when I bought my iPhone brand new.

Maybe that has been the experience for some people, but then again I've heard some pretty bad things about iPhone battery life with some people.

Every manufacturer will have it's less than perfect defect phones and those who own them will have the loudest voices

 

[ecwhite4S]

Google's Galaxy Nexus is much better than an iPhone 4s. Android's openness leads to innovation and creativity. The Ice Cream Sandwich is a breath of fresh air. iPhone 4s is old and boring. Their user interface hasn't changed in years. It feels like groundhog day. Apple's simplicity is just double-speak for being lazy.

Who needs an iPhone, when there's an Galaxy Nexus?

Not trying to argue, but let's clarify that the Nexus being better than the iPhone is merely your opinion. I think iPhone (4S) sales say otherwise.

Also, the 4S is brand new, and not boring. Apple hasn't changed much of it's interface and OS because people enjoy it, and it works. It doesn't need a redesign every year because it's design is strong and dependable.

I love how certain Android users have their panties in a bunch. I have an iPhone and I'm not anti-Android, but why are so many Android fans anti-iPhone? They both have pros/cons, they both are great phones. In my opinion Apple produces a more solid product, that is reliable and user friendly. Android has more bells and whistles.

 

[TechnoTonis]

Not trying to argue, but let's clarify that the Nexus being better than the iPhone is merely your opinion. I think iPhone (4S) sales say otherwise.

Also, the 4S is brand new, and not boring. Apple hasn't changed much of it's interface and OS because people enjoy it, and it works. It doesn't need a redesign every year because it's design is strong and dependable.

I love how certain Android users have their panties in a bunch. I have an iPhone and I'm not anti-Android, but why are so many Android fans anti-iPhone? They both have pros/cons, they both are great phones. In my opinion Apple produces a more solid product, that is reliable and user friendly. Android has more bells and whistles.

I'll agree with everything you've said except for a couple of things -

1. That sales determine the quality of anything, not to mention you're talking about a phone sold across 3 platforms as opposed to a phone sold across only one (in the U.S. at least)

2. I would say the differences between the iPhone4 and 4s are negligible. Sure, one has a dual core processor, but thanks to how smooth iOS 5 is, you really can't tell the user difference between either of the phones. That being said, it really doesn't feel new to me, and although certainly not boring - disappointing for sure. It wasn't a jump from the 3g to 3gs like I was expecting.

 

[ecwhite4S]

I'll agree with everything you've said except for a couple of things -

1. That sales determine the quality of anything, not to mention you're talking about a phone sold across 3 platforms as opposed to a phone sold across only one (in the U.S. at least)

2. I would say the differences between the iPhone4 and 4s are negligible. Sure, one has a dual core processor, but thanks to how smooth iOS 5 is, you really can't tell the user difference between either of the phones. That being said, it really doesn't feel new to me, and although certainly not boring - disappointing for sure. It wasn't a jump from the 3g to 3gs like I was expecting.

I agree with your number one.. but number 2, I can definitely tell a difference between the 4 and 4S. When I was home for the holidays a week back, I played with my sisters 4 just to see how different they were. The 4S isn't a mile ahead of the 4, but it's definitely quicker and smoother. I guess for me, the 4S is a huge upgrade because I had a crappy LG worthless phone before. If you already had the 4, it was probably a poor choice to go to the 4S if you were expecting it to be some sort of miracle, but for people like me who are getting their first ever iPhone, it's awesome!

Again, I was looking at Droids before I got my 4S, I walked around Verizon and looked at all of em, and there are so many different Androids that my head just started spinning. I'll take the iPhone.

 

[TechnoTonis]

Again, I was looking at Droids before I got my 4S, I walked around Verizon and looked at all of em, and there are so many different Androids that my head just started spinning. I'll take the iPhone.

And therein lies the problem, really.

They have been pumping out android phones at such an astronomical rate that they have completely over saturated the market, and I'm amazed how some of these companies (Motorola, HTC) are even making a profit at all right now.

When I bought my OG Droid 2 years ago... there were a total of I believe 3 maybe 4 android phones on the market at the time. Now? I really don't want to guess.

 

[tonie]

Some apple fans go to the extreme lying... don't you agree? post the nexus and receipt with your screen name then we'll believe you.

WOW..I ordered it new straight from the UK for $750 and used it just as I would any other phone with the same 10 or so apps and you tell me I jotted down a list of problems from forums..BS!! The list of problems you see everywhere are real! I reported "my" problems which may be different from yours!. If Apple released a phone with this many bugs, it would make headlines across the world!

Oh yeah, I got force close on stock apps that are supposed to be optimized for ICS as well. Good luck with hearing all of the puny sounding ringtones such as Girtab which is the one it's set to out of the box. I hear just fine on every other phone and I won't even begin to talk about the laughable speakerphone!! Overall, it's a mediocre phone with the only thing Samsung is good at..making displays! Better off waiting until ICS is refined/matured which will be right around the same time Google releases Android 5.0! Or at least wait until it's on better hardware with a better battery instead of cheap plastic.

 

[mysterioustko]

Not trying to argue, but let's clarify that the Nexus being better than the iPhone is merely your opinion. I think iPhone (4S) sales say otherwise.

Also, the 4S is brand new, and not boring. Apple hasn't changed much of it's interface and OS because people enjoy it, and it works. It doesn't need a redesign every year because it's design is strong and dependable.

I love how certain Android users have their panties in a bunch. I have an iPhone and I'm not anti-Android, but why are so many Android fans anti-iPhone? They both have pros/cons, they both are great phones. In my opinion Apple produces a more solid product, that is reliable and user friendly. Android has more bells and whistles.

Sales number just means a product is popular, not that it's the best. Most of the same people who purchased an iphone aren't even very knowledgeable about what options are out there and what the pluses and minuses are of each choice. They buy iphones because it is well marketed and it's a brand they recognize.

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Some apple fans go to the extreme lying... don't you agree? post the nexus and receipt with your screen name then we'll believe you.

I believe he bought the phone, I just don't believe everything he's saying about it. If he used the charger that came with the phone, there's no way it took 3.5hrs to charge. That's just one thing, but I won't rehash everything again.

 

[ecwhite4S]

Sales number just means a product is popular, not that it's the best. Most of the same people who purchased an iphone aren't even very knowledgeable about what options are out there and what the pluses and minuses are of each choice. They buy iphones because it is well marketed and it's a brand they recognize.

Well iPhones are popular because they're a working product. I actually think Androids are more popular because they are more readily available and cheaper (have cheaper options), have more carriers and have more bells and whistles like I said before, after all Android is the top selling device... when I said "The sales of the 4S say differently", I was just proving that a lot of people bought the 4S, because the guy that I quoted, said the 4S is old & boring, etc.

I bought my iPhone because I have used Android and Apple. I have an Android tablet. And I had an iPod touch before my iPhone. I just tend to appreciate Apple's design, the smoothness, the feel of the product. Androids are great but they just have a slightly shotty feel to them. This doesn't apply to all Androids, I know they are coming out with the Ice Cream Sandwich on a few top end phones and I'm sure they are great. But not for me. Again, arguing Apple vs Android ultimately comes down to what you like.

But when you think about it...

Remember way back when (throughout the 90s) cell phones werent like this, and computers were the latest craze?

Remember when Apple was pretty much always ahead, and it was in competition with Windows. And everyone basically had Windows because it was a cheaper option, and all the spoiled rich kids had Apple computers?

Well that's pretty much the way it seems to be with Android vs. iPhone. I just remember people saying "Oh I hate Apple, everyone has Apple, Apple is a fad, etc"... I think that's why people hate the iPhone so much. I mean seriously, it may not be the "funnest" but it's the most reliable.

 

[mysterioustko]

Well iPhones are popular because they're a working product. I actually think Androids are more popular because they are more readily available and cheaper (have cheaper options), have more carriers and have more bells and whistles like I said before, after all Android is the top selling device... when I said "The sales of the 4S say differently", I was just proving that a lot of people bought the 4S, because the guy that I quoted, said the 4S is old & boring, etc.

I bought my iPhone because I have used Android and Apple. I have an Android tablet. And I had an iPod touch before my iPhone. I just tend to appreciate Apple's design, the smoothness, the feel of the product. Androids are great but they just have a slightly shotty feel to them. This doesn't apply to all Androids, I know they are coming out with the Ice Cream Sandwich on a few top end phones and I'm sure they are great. But not for me. Again, arguing Apple vs Android ultimately comes down to what you like.

I do agree with the other guy, I find iOS to be quite archaic in nature hence why I do not use it as my daily driver. But going back to your point, I don't think it gets the sales because of how they work, it's more to do with how they market it. Perfect example of it is, I constantly get people all the time telling me they are getting a new phone and want my opinion on what they should get. When I ask them what phones are they considering they always say iphone. When I ask why, they don't know why, they just know it's a prominent phone and that it has "apps'. The average person is not very knowledgeable about what phones are good and what isn't. They don't know the capabilities of one phone over the other. They know what they are shown in various forms of marketing and go off of that. Apple does a heck of a job with marketing followed by verizon (why do you think the "droid" line is so popular...it's advertised heavily). Historically speaking Apple has advertised their product much more than any other manufacturer or carrier has with their phones, hence the brand recognition.

 

[ecwhite4S]

I do agree with the other guy, I find iOS to be quite archaic in nature hence why I do not use it as my daily driver. But going back to your point, I don't think it gets the sales because of how they work, it's more to do with how they market it. Perfect example of it is, I constantly get people all the time telling me they are getting a new phone and want my opinion on what they should get. When I ask them what phones are they considering they always say iphone. When I ask why, they don't know why, they just know it's a prominent phone and that it has "apps'. The average person is not very knowledgeable about what phones are good and what isn't. They don't know the capabilities of one phone over the other. They know what they are shown in various forms of marketing and go off of that. Apple does a heck of a job with marketing followed by verizon (why do you think the "droid" line is so popular...it's advertised heavily). Historically speaking Apple has advertised their product much more than any other manufacturer or carrier has with their phones, hence the brand recognition.

But the thing is, not everyone is interesting in rooting and customizing and having crazy widgets and extras and this and that. It's not that they're not necessarily knowledgeable, it's that they don't care. And I agree, Apple is a great marketer, but that's what sells in this day in age. And good products sell, which is what Apple produces time after time.

Again, I'm not hating on Android. I would just rather have an iPhone, and I've had experience with both. Apple may be behind Android in certain aspects I'll admit, but at the end of the day I'd rather have my iPhone.

 

[BaldiMac]

I do agree with the other guy, I find iOS to be quite archaic in nature hence why I do not use it as my daily driver. But going back to your point, I don't think it gets the sales because of how they work, it's more to do with how they market it. Perfect example of it is, I constantly get people all the time telling me they are getting a new phone and want my opinion on what they should get. When I ask them what phones are they considering they always say iphone. When I ask why, they don't know why, they just know it's a prominent phone and that it has "apps'. The average person is not very knowledgeable about what phones are good and what isn't. They don't know the capabilities of one phone over the other. They know what they are shown in various forms of marketing and go off of that. Apple does a heck of a job with marketing followed by verizon (why do you think the "droid" line is so popular...it's advertised heavily). Historically speaking Apple has advertised their product much more than any other manufacturer or carrier has with their phones, hence the brand recognition.

Or, almost every one they know that has an iPhone is happy with it. Personal referrals have always been much stronger than marketing.

(Ironically, the people you describe are probably the ones much less likely to benefit from the openness of Android and all it's added features and options. The iPhone would probably be perfect for them. )

 

[mysterioustko]

But the thing is, not everyone is interesting in rooting and customizing and having crazy widgets and extras and this and that. It's not that they're not necessarily knowledgeable, it's that they don't care. And I agree, Apple is a great marketer, but that's what sells in this day in age.

Again, I'm not hating on Android. I would just rather have an iPhone, and I've had experience with both. Apple may be behind Android in certain aspects I'll admit, but at the end of the day I'd rather have my iPhone.

You're missing the point entirely. It's not about any of that. What I'm saying is they buy it because it's what they are aware of.

Or, almost every one they know that has an iPhone is happy with it. Personal referrals have always been much stronger than marketing.

(Ironically, the people you describe are probably the ones much less likely to benefit from the openness of Android and all it's added features and options. The iPhone would probably be perfect for them. )

Really most people don't really need a smartphone at all. So yes a phone that is less capable would be sufficient for a lot of people. That wasn't my point. My point was very simple, he brought up sales figures as an indication of what the best phone is..I'm saying that sales figures just reflect how popular a device is. There are more people driving a ford focus than driving a E Class Mercedes, does that mean the focus is a better car? Of course not. Most people aren't even aware that there are better options because they don't see the marketing for it. They assume the iphone is a great phone (I'm not saying it isn''t) because that's what the marketing tells them. My girlfriend is one of those people. She thought it was the phone that was capable of any and everything based on how it's marketed. Then she was shocked to see that many of the things I do and have on my phone, an iphone is not capable of (for example, when we let her son play a video game on her tv using a playstation controller, and the phone as the console..or when we went to Mcdonald's and I tapped my phone to pay). The marketing had led her to have a certain belief about the device. Though she is happy with it for the most part, now that she knows more and is aware of more, she now wants to sell her phone and pick up something better.

 

[BaldiMac]

You're missing the point entirely. It's not about any of that. What I'm saying is they buy it because it's what they are aware of.

Which is the point I was disagreeing with. I think most people buy an iPhone because almost everyone they know with an iPhone is happy with it.

Really most people don't really need a smartphone at all. So yes a phone that is less capable would be sufficient for a lot of people. That wasn't my point. My point was very simple, he brought up sales figures as an indication of what the best phone is..I'm saying that sales figures just reflect how popular a device is. There are more people driving a ford focus than driving a E Class Mercedes, does that mean the focus is a better car? Of course not. Most people aren't even aware that there are better options because they don't see the marketing for it. They assume the iphone is a great phone (I'm not saying it isn''t) because that's what the marketing tells them. My girlfriend is one of those people. She thought it was the phone that was capable of any and everything based on how it's marketed. Then she was shocked to see that many of the things I do and have on my phone, an iphone is not capable of (for example, when we let her son play a video game on her tv using a playstation controller, and the phone as the console..or when we went to Mcdonald's and I tapped my phone to pay). The marketing had led her to have a certain belief about the device. Though she is happy with it for the most part, now that she knows more and is aware of more, she now wants to sell her phone and pick up something better.

Except he already corrected you on that. He brought up sales figures to show how popular it was to refute the claim that it was "old and boring."

 

[mysterioustko]

Which is the point I was disagreeing with. I think most people buy an iPhone because almost everyone they know with an iPhone is happy with it.



Except he already corrected you on that. He brought up sales figures to show how popular it was to refute the claim that it was "old and boring."

Everyone doesn't know someone with an iphone, and everyone doesn't buy because they know someone with an iphone. They purchase because of marketing. If it were that simple, then Apple would never have to advertise at all.

As for what the other guy said, yeah he says that now, but his previous statement said otherwise "Not trying to argue, but let's clarify that the Nexus being better than the iPhone is merely your opinion. I think iPhone (4S) sales say otherwise. " His comment has nothing to do with "old and boring" and he directly relates sales to it being better.

 

[BaldiMac]

Everyone doesn't know someone with an iphone, and everyone doesn't buy because they know someone with an iphone. They purchase because of marketing. If it were that simple, then Apple would never have to advertise at all.

Or, marketing is one factor among many. I never said that everyone makes their decision based on personal referrals. Of course good marketing works!

As for what the other guy said, yeah he says that now, but his previous statement said otherwise "Not trying to argue, but let's clarify that the Nexus being better than the iPhone is merely your opinion. I think iPhone (4S) sales say otherwise. " His comment has nothing to do with "old and boring" and he directly relates sales to it being better.

The "old and boring" was from the post he replied to. He specifically clarified in a subsequent post.

 

[mysterioustko]

Or, marketing is one factor among many. I never said that everyone makes their decision based on personal referrals. Of course good marketing works!



The "old and boring" was from the post he replied to. He specifically clarified in a subsequent post.

Yes I am aware of what he said after the fact, but it doesn't change what he clearly said earlier. He even went as far as to separate his points when he made the sales statement and then in a separate paragraph addressed the "old and boring" statement. What was said was self explanatory and didn't need clarification. If he's retracting the first statement then great, but to say he's clarifying it isn't accurate.

 

[blackhawk526]

Really?

I call it BS too. I have one for the last 3 weeks and not a singe force close on any app. It charges on 1 1/2 hours max from virtually empty and lasts at least from 7 am to midnight with average 30% left. That's with a lot of use in terms of texting, browsing, email and lots of calls (> 2 hours on average).

You may not like it, you may think the iphone/ios is better and that's ok but your feedback is at odds with so many other owners and reviewers.

So yes. I'd definitely term what you posted as BS.

I'm not a huge fan of iOS! I'm bored with it just as every other person who has been using it since 2007! Maybe I got a turd GN out the batch of good ones you all claim to have..who knows? Either way, we are all entitled to voice our experiences even if they don't coincide with what others say!

 

[bgtrack]

Elaborate, with specifics please.

The biggest difference is the way that notifications are signaled on the top bar...there are little icons that show up on Android, yet not on iOS...also if you ever play around with the Android version it feels clunky and not clean polished.

 

[sk1wbw]

Not trying to argue, but let's clarify that the Nexus being better than the iPhone is merely your opinion. I think iPhone (4S) sales say otherwise.

Also, the 4S is brand new, and not boring. Apple hasn't changed much of it's interface and OS because people enjoy it, and it works. It doesn't need a redesign every year because it's design is strong and dependable.

I love how certain Android users have their panties in a bunch. I have an iPhone and I'm not anti-Android, but why are so many Android fans anti-iPhone? They both have pros/cons, they both are great phones. In my opinion Apple produces a more solid product, that is reliable and user friendly. Android has more bells and whistles.

More Android users are Apple haters than the other way around. This is just what I've seen on the blogs and forums over the years. And Android users are MUCH more immature in their comments. I said Android apps are **** over at BGR and some ***** responded that my face looked like ****. Such maturity.

 

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You're missing the point entirely. It's not about any of that. What I'm saying is they buy it because it's what they are aware of.

Really most people don't really need a smartphone at all. So yes a phone that is less capable would be sufficient for a lot of people. That wasn't my point. My point was very simple, he brought up sales figures as an indication of what the best phone is..I'm saying that sales figures just reflect how popular a device is. There are more people driving a ford focus than driving a E Class Mercedes, does that mean the focus is a better car?

LOL, so you're basically calling your Android phone a E Class Mercedes and the iPhone is a Ford Focus? Wow. Dude seriously get off your high horse. Your Android phone isn't any better than an iPhone. To you it is, because it suits YOUR needs, but to someone else, it isnt. What the hell is so hard to understand about that. Stop being such a block head.

I still dont understand why you keep saying the iPhone is more popular. Sales figures point at Android being the top selling device. And thats because its on more carriers, is more available and has cheaper options.

Again, I'll say it again and again....Android is a great phone, great OS, it's got a lot of fun little toys and customizations, etc. But I think the iPhone is way more solid, way more practical, and will have a better resale value when I'm looking to upgrade. Case closed. Go to an Android forum if you want to keep ragging on iPhones.

I mean seriously, we all know how badly Android tries to copy iPhone anyways. Remember Facetime? Hmm, what's popping up on Android phones everywhere? And Siri, we all know there will be a carbon copy of that soon.

Apple is the leader. They're smart and they produce a great product that works. Get over it. Apple may not change the OS too much, they enhance it. You know the saying.."Don't fix something unless its broken."

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Everyone doesn't know someone with an iphone

Yes, everyone DOES know someone with an iPhone. You must not realize how widespread this phone (and Android phones) is becoming. You're too busy putting Android on a pedestal. I mean I see 75 year olds with iPhones.