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LOL - but Samsung is?

Case in Point: Apple patents pressure sensitive screen Jan2014 (probably been working on this for a couple of years beforehand) , Samsung sees it, starts working on it and patents some offspin in March2014.. (how do i know? well apple brought it on the market in 2015, whereas Samsung will take a year longer.. the year it take to actually copy apples functionality).

Samsung has been like this in EVERY device they made. They look at the market leader and copy the **** out of him. They know how to produce and make things cheaply.. Since they save massive amounts in developing costs they can sell their stuff for half or even less.


http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...sensitive-iphone-touchscreen-in-patent-filing
 
Sorry: Apple did it first: http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...sensitive-iphone-touchscreen-in-patent-filing

The Samsung patent was March, Apple's was January. Both of these patents refer to the screen hardware and concept of making them touch sensitive. An additional Apple patent is filed for implementing 3D touch in the software UI.
 
Can we really use patent application dates to ascertain when a company started work on a certain feature or piece of technology?

When it's in Apple's favor - sure. Or when it's discussed that Apple has been working on it for years (based on interviews with Apple) but we can negate when any other company claims the same thing. ;)
 
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because it was so obvious no articles had to be written about it.
So you're saying Microsoft named it Xbox 360 because of PS3 ?? That doesn't make any sense at all and never heard about it before. Your theory doesn't hold up because if it did then we should have an Xbox 4,5,6, 7 etc and not an Xbox ONE.
 
OK, so I am not a big fan of Samsung either but I see double standard here from all who is crying "copy cat" to Samsung. What was Apple doing then, when they came up with iPhone 6 and 6S, the phablet category phones, which was pioneered by Samsung? I think a lot of features are so common amongst many vendors that it's now more about "getting it right" than "who did it first".
 
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Obviously Apple is standing still by introducing a feature that will soon be copied by Samsung. Depending on your world view, obviously.
It's so stupid. None of us know when companies start working on a certain piece of technology or a feature for a future product. The guy listed on Apple's patents around this - Wayne Westerman - came from Fingerworks. Jony Ive said Apple has been working on this for many years. The idea that Samsung has somehow replicated 3D touch in a matter of months is nonsense.
 
I seriously doubt that Apple has any intentions of being first with technology. Their business model isn't built on that. By now, anyone that has spent any time with Apple products should realize that Apple's goal to roll out products that enhance people's lifestyle. It isn't about the technology, it is about how they will use it. While Apple is first at some technologies (e.g. first x64 processor in a smartphone - which was quickly mocked and then copied by others) it is a means-to-an-end. The goal is to provide integrated technologies that enhance your lifestyle and it often means a lot of non-technology work (just look at all the work that was done with the banks and merchants to roll out Apple Pay).

You can take jabs at Apple all day long for not being first with many technologies (while, of course, conveniently ignoring technology that they are first at), but they and customers like us just don't care. It isn't what it is all about. Anyone should be able to see that.
 
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It's so stupid. None of us know when companies start working on a certain piece of technology or a feature for a future product. The guy listed on Apple's patents around this - Wayne Westerman - came from Fingerworks. Jony Ive said Apple has been working on this for many years. The idea that Samsung has somehow replicated 3D touch in a matter of months is nonsense.

Agreed - but clearly there are people here who think companies can just whip up things on the fly and then release them a month or two later.
 
OK, so I am not a big fan of Samsung either but I see double standard here from all who is crying "copy cat" to Samsung. What was Apple doing then, when they came up with iPhone 6 and 6S, the phablet category phones, which was pioneered by Samsung? I think a lot of features are so common amongst many vendors that it's now more about "getting it right" than "who did it first".
Several manufacturers, including Samsung, produced larger phones and Apple followed suite. They are not the first at many things - they adopt them when they think that they can improve on them or when they realize that the market is firm in demanding something that is viable. I think that the later case was what happened with Apple going with a larger form factor on their phones. They truly believed, as per Steve Jobs, the phone had to be easily worked with one hand. The market proved him wrong and Apple compensated. With other technologies, such as fingerprint sensing or NFC - it isn't about being first; Apple doesn't see a point to provide features that don't work well, are poorly supported by 3rd parties, or don't integrate well. Again, Apple is a lifestyle company, not a technology company. The technology is merely a tool.
 
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Please stop these nonsense rants. Apple knew they were entering the "you copy me, I copy you" scenario the day they decided to stop designing the best professional tools in favor of the coolest fashion toys. Of course the typical iOS customer can be "assimilated" into Android, because they're both the same kind of fashion toy, basically. This didn't happen in the days of NeXT nor in the best versions of OS X (being SL the last one), where the Apple customer just couldn't find the Mac features outside of Apple.
 
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When it's in Apple's favor - sure. Or when it's discussed that Apple has been working on it for years (based on interviews with Apple) but we can negate when any other company claims the same thing. ;)
What is Samsung claiming in regards to 3D touch? My point is no way has Samsung replicated 3D touch in a matter of months. And do we even know if this is a Samung technology or something coming from a 3rd party? There have been news stories that Synaptics would be offering something like 3D Touch to Android OEMs next year.
 
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What is Samsung claiming in regards to 3D touch? My point is no way has Ssa,sung replicated 3D touch in a matter of months. And do we even know if this is a Samung technology or something coming from a 3rd party? There have been news stories that Synaptics would be offering something like 3D Touch to Android OEMs next year.

All sarcasm - as you'll note from the post which I replied/agreed with you just after.

Ultimately - I see little reason for caring. Iterations and evolutionary tech. But some people sure get upset, don't they?
 
I'm not surprised. S-voice, fingerprint scanner, Samsung Pay, now this.

Meanwhile the iPhone doesn't have an s-pen, curved display, a display that switches off when you look away, etc.
 
I've got the S6 Edge. Would never go back now after realising the 6S marked the point where Apple stood still.

This has got to be /s right?

I felt like the iPhone 6 was Apple holding back because they knew big screens would make the phone sell, and the iPhone 6S was them adding a ton of new technology.

Just need the iPhone 7 to improve the display + bezels to cross off the last thing anyone could possibly complain about in terms of hardware.
 
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