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That is precisely why I went with the XR. I love the XS and the Max but could not justify the price difference. Because I don't use my phone for "serious" viewing, I opted for the XR. It's a great phone, as are the XS and Max, and I believed it to be (and still do) a better value.

The fact you can get a series4 and Xr base for a whomping $50 more than a base XS max tells me where I’d rather spend my money

All of a sudden feels like apple's
Giving away product, when they definitely
Are not
 
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After upgrading from my 6 to the Xr a month ago the most impressive feature is the battery life (all this display discussion of really not important in real life...)! it is amazing to load the iPhone with regular usage only every two days. Still have to to fight with the size and weight of this phone (the 6 looks really small now in comparison...) but that might me the price to pay for this battery life....
 
yeah I think its funny how people are like "If you pause a certain youtube video at the exact spot, and put the phones next to each other, you can see a small difference".

First of all - who cares

Second of all - they are acting like being able to tell a difference means that the XR is no good. In reality, its 99% vs 100%. Both are A+. Being able to tell a difference, in of itself, does not mean anything as far as weather or not its a good screen.


You are taking my post out of context. I still said the screen is good and I recommend the phone to others esp. if they are not wanting to spend 1k+ on an iPhone.
You said that the XR screen is better than the OLED, and even say that it's
likely sharper. You never said that the XS is A+, you said the screen is trash cause it's OLED and many are suffering
burn in issues on the X, XS and XS Max, without any sufficient evidence.

Most review publications still praise the XR and tell people to buy that iPhone over any other, due to the pricing, so it's hardly the underdog.
 
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I don’t care how much I make in the future, etc. $1000+ really doesn’t settle well with me. Especially w depreciation and knowing itll be yesteryear by next gen. My contract x $549 I would have to struggle to break even, so I traded it in for $500 on reserve. Can’t imagine the resell slaughter for full msrp people getting the upgrade itch. Probably better off holding off another year and getting close to same resell if worried about that sorta thing

Also since a $70 prEpaid SE can run the same apps and do same things. It’s ceetainly not 7% proportion to the utility of X/x
That’s why they nixed the SE. they don’t want people waking up

Of course putting that against $750 Xr the utility isn’t there either but there has to come a point where enough is enough.
True. I can afford them but admit that $300 savings looked good.
 
Yeah, I think there is less than a $250 value difference, but I really think value is in the eye of the beholder.
Some here have noticed less sharpness in text and have returned the XR since the difference was noticeable, or have purchased an IP8+. Tech reviewers such as Detroitborg have noticed that as well, so for some it's worth the difference.

This goes both ways as there are also tech reviewers that can’t tell the difference between the screens. Truth is value is in the “eye of the beholder!” I have a XS Max, XS and Xʀ and guess which one is being used the most???

My iPhone Xʀ. Battery life trumps anything else in my eyes. When compared side by side with my XS Max differences are negligible.
 
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Still waiting for someone in the actual real world to show me fuzzy text on my XR. It doesn't exist.

Kind of like the ‘huge bezel’ argument with the XR. I literally just mentioned in another thread, certain complaints about the XR are non-existent to the majority outside a tech site. You just have to realize everyone has opinions, but they don’t specifically have to apply to you.
 
Still waiting for someone in the actual real world to show me fuzzy text on my XR. It doesn't exist.

I know a few people into high end audio/video. I’m taking AV nerds with deep deep pockets. They have ditched their projectors and OLED in favor of the latest LED flat screens for their theaters. The blacks are excellent and OLED just doesn’t make much sense for the cost or risk of burn in. LED is at a maturation where they are so good (depending on the model you choose) that OLED doesn’t make much sense.

All this PPI, screen talk, etc, is all bs. It’s been eye opening to watch the screen time nerds (YouTube) say R to S the differences are really insignificant. Fuzzy text? LMAO. I think you have a whole bunch of people who dropped 1k+ on a phone with regret. There is a reason Apple realeased the XS/MAX first. And it worked, got a lot of people. Far too many don’t realize how much marketing has them. Being able to see through marketing like it’s crystal is a talent many need to learn.

And I think many people have a phone addiction. If you spend more time on the phone than living the one and only life you are going to get, you’ve got some serious issues and need psychological help. The matrix has you.....
 
I think you have a whole bunch of people who dropped 1k+ on a phone with regret. There is a reason Apple realeased the XS/MAX first. .

I don't see anyone here with regret for their purchases, except some that felt compelled to start a thread to help justify their returns or exchanges. I actually have to start over since my Face ID module went out, and I'm buying the same thing again, for example (likely the XS Max but the XS is another consideration). I think I'd be mostly satisfied with the XR, but it isn't my preference. I believe it was released later to ramp up production anyway, they thought they would sell a lot more of those than they did.

I see just as many (or more) XR users justifying their purchases, than XS or XS Max users justifying the added premium they paid.

And I think many people have a phone addiction. If you spend more time on the phone than living the one and only life you are going to get, you’ve got some serious issues and need psychological help.

No argument, but that could be said about many things. Watching television, overeating, spending too much time on the internet via the computer, or anything not done in moderation. There are still addictions such as alcohol, food and drug use that are actually dangerous.
 
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After upgrading from my 6 to the Xr a month ago the most impressive feature is the battery life (all this display discussion of really not important in real life...)! it is amazing to load the iPhone with regular usage only every two days. Still have to to fight with the size and weight of this phone (the 6 looks really small now in comparison...) but that might me the price to pay for this battery life....

Today is the first day I’m trying low power mode on Xr. The results are bonkers!!!
 
Today is the first day I’m trying low power mode on Xr. The results are bonkers!!!

I always use Low power mode, it’s never disabled. I’m actually surprised how many are not aware of low power mode and it’s benefits, which obviously slows down the processor, the display is dimmed slightly, ect. But it really impacts the battery longevity significantly for those who need to savor as much as they can.
 
This goes both ways as there are also tech reviewers that can’t tell the difference between the screens. Truth is value is in the “eye of the beholder!”

That exactly was my point. Value is in the eye of the beholder... that statement is already self sufficient, in other words.
Also, if a tech reviewer can't tell the difference, it doesn't cancel out one that does.

To some the $250 difference is worth it, and others it may not be. All 3 phones are good but also, form factor can't be forgotten. I still see people buying the XS quite often as well as the XR. The XR is quite a heavy form factor, and it's slightly heavier than a couple of the Plus models. The XR is markedly heavier and bigger than the standard size XS.
 
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All the phones are good. I personally have a XS, and I like it, not going to change it. Only thing I'm not to crazy about is the weight of these all glass phones. I guess the price you have to pay for wireless charging. When I pick up my 6s plus, it is so much lighter and bigger.
 
That exactly was my point. Value is in the eye of the beholder... that statement is already self sufficient, in other words.
Also, if a tech reviewer can't tell the difference, it doesn't cancel out one that does.

To some the $250 difference is worth it, and others it may not be. All 3 phones are good but also, form factor can't be forgotten. I still see people buying the XS quite often as well as the XR. The XR is quite a heavy form factor, and it's slightly heavier than a couple of the Plus models. The XR is markedly heavier and bigger than the standard size XS.

Wow the Xʀ is quite a bit heavier than the XS or X. Coming from the Max the Xʀ just seemed a lot lighter lol. That’s absolutely is amazing to me. I’m sorry but you honestly just blew my mind and that’s not sarcasm.

The Xʀ is heavier than the 7 plus and 6s Plus. I mean I knew the glass made it heavier, but I honestly felt like it was lighter than the X and XS for sure. I had a X for a year and the XS Max for a couple months. Consider my mind blown.

Truly Amazed me no joke.
 
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Wow the Xʀ is quite a bit heavier than the XS or X. Coming from the Max the Xʀ just seemed a lot lighter lol. That’s absolutely is amazing to me. I’m sorry but you honestly just blew my mind and that’s not sarcasm.

The Xʀ is heavier than the 7 plus and 6s Plus. I mean I knew the glass made it heavier, but I honestly felt like it was lighter than the X and XS for sure. I had a X for a year and the XS Max for a couple months. Consider my mind blown.

Truly Amazed me no joke.


Yeah, people confuse the weight of phones all the time (including myself), and it might be the way they are balanced inside. The poster above you is yet another example. The 6S+ is not lighter than the XS, it's the other way around.

I confused things in the past too... I didn't like the feel of the 6+, but liked the 6S+ for example, and I think it's cause the 6+ is probably more top heavy, but the 6S+ is quite a bit heavier overall, still.

I also had my Father try out the XR, since I thought it would probably be the perfect phone for him coming from a 6. Is it? not by a long shot. He found it too heavy, and it's obviously not even in a case yet. I pulled specs and the iP6 weighs 4.55 OZ and the XR weighs 6.84 OZ. That is an even bigger difference than the models discussed here.
 
Yeah, people confuse the weight of phones all the time (including myself), and it might be the way they are balanced inside. The poster above you is yet another example. The 6S+ is not lighter than the XS, it's the other way around.

I confused things in the past too... I didn't like the feel of the 6+, but liked the 6S+ for example, and I think it's cause the 6+ is probably more top heavy, but the 6S+ is quite a bit heavier overall, still.

I also had my Father try out the XR, since I thought it would probably be the perfect phone for him coming from a 6. Is it? not by a long shot. He found it too heavy, and it's obviously not even in a case yet. I pulled specs and the iP6 weighs 4.55 OZ and the XR weighs 6.84 OZ. That is an even bigger difference than the models discussed here.

Yeah I can’t even lie... you completely blew my mind on that one. I believe it had a lot to do with me coming from the Max. I was almost certain the X/XS was heavier than the Xʀ and I was sure the plus models were heavier lol, but it’s totally opposite as the only plus model heavier is the 8 Plus. I mean I am in total awe lol
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Today is the first day I’m trying low power mode on Xr. The results are bonkers!!!

This was my one driving factor of using the Xʀ over the Max. I loved my Max, but the Battery was never impressive. Battery on the Xʀ is VERY impressive
 
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My main ‘text’ issue with the XR is that the standard size text is smaller than that of the XS unless you use Zoomed display mode. Adjusting the Text Size doesn’t affect text in apps like Safari.

I never noticed that until you mentioned it.

I've been in a quandary over XR vs XS (or $29 battery replacement vs. trade on my 6+) and found myself at a non-Apple store with a display that actually allowed side-by-side comparisons, something not possible with the separate tables at Apple stores.

On Safari, displaying a site with minimal styling (Macintouch), the text on the XR was actually larger.

Of course, the XS displays less information overall, requiring more scrolling, but I was aware of that.

I'm not sure what the cause/reasoning is behind the difference in text sizes, but it added yet another factor to consider.

As an aside, I also noticed the much warmer screen on the XS, TrueTone on or off. I generally prefer warmer rather than cooler temps, but the difference struck me more than any difference in text sharpness (which was minor to my eyes).

One of my main motivations in getting a new is the desire for something physically smaller. The XR wins a lot of logical arguments, but the only real size difference between it and the 6+ is that it's slightly shorter. If there was a smaller version of the XR, the decision would have been easy, but Apple being Apple, their product structures are often well-suited to goading people to choose the costlier option.
 
No argument, but that could be said about many things. Watching television, overeating, spending too much time on the internet via the computer, or anything not done in moderation. There are still addictions such as alcohol, food and drug use that are actually dangerous.

The phone addiction is dangerous. People here drive a vehicle, many of those trucks and SUV’s while surfing on the phone. Most of that are the useless social media apps and texting. In studies driving while using the phone like this is MORE dangerous and than drinking and driving. We have a national smartphone epidemic unfolding before all of our eyes. People are straight addicts. They can’t put the phone down to work, walk, drive, go to the movie, eat dinner, etc. Pathetic too. You get one life and you spend all your time on the virtual life instead of the real one. People are starting to look like zombies with their phones.

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Hiya Thadoggfather, how much longer are you able to last with low power mode? Is it something you see yourself using consistently in the long run?

Yeah if I know I might be working all day have minimal time before heading out again it makes a difference. I’ll probably throw it on 1/3 or 1/2 the time

Its a good feature. Battery life is already really good this just makes it even more impressive !
 
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Yeah if I know I might be working all day have minimal time before heading out again it makes a difference. I’ll probably throw it on 1/3 or 1/2 the time

Its a good feature. Battery life is already really good this just makes it even more impressive !

That’s awesome! Going to give it a try. Do you notice any stutter or lag while in low battery mode?
 
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