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lol! Yea, she's not much of a rapper. I think she's going back to her roots a bit from what I read about the new album.leekohler said:True. I just hope this one's good. And no rapping Madonna!
I think I need some advice.
I was on a teambuilding excursion with the job on Thursday and Friday. It was fun. We were given tasks as teams in the middle of the forest. It was rainy, muddy, foggy and cold, but still very fun.
On Thursday evening we had a Viking inspired dinner in a longhouse with mutton, reindeer and lots of alcohol. It was delicious. Later in the evening some of us got in an outdoor hot tub. The water was a little bit too hot, so we had to cool down by taking dips in a small ice-covered lake. My closest colleagues know I'm gay. I'm always a little worried how straight guys feel about being in a "locker room situation" with me, but when we were showering off I didn't sense any awkwardness. I had such a good time and felt that us closest colleagues really connected during the two days.
Now that we've returned, I feel almost sad and lonely compared to the good time that I had on the excursion. What worries me is that I may be getting too attached to the people at my workplace, and that I rely too much on my colleagues when it comes to fulfilling my social needs. I even feel some attraction and desire for cuddling in varying degrees. This isn't the first time I've been attracted to straight guys. Usually I'm able to deal with that just fine, but it has been known to complicate matters on occasion. There are no complications at work at the moment, but I am slightly worried and I wonder what I should do about the situation.
Should I welcome the close connection we have at work and count myself lucky for having such a good working environment? I know I would enjoy meeting up more often for social activities with some of my colleagues.
One of my worries is that it's a somewhat of dead end when it comes to romance. Should I let that worry me? And then there's the attraction. I certainly don't want any complications at work. Actually, none are boyfriend material or anything like that, so I'm not so worried about the attraction as I am the desire to cuddle.
Any advice is welcome.
Zaid, if I remember correctly, you brought up a similar issue. I'm trying to find the post, but I'm failing. Maybe you have some further insights on this.
I was on a teambuilding excursion with the job on Thursday and Friday. It was fun. We were given tasks as teams in the middle of the forest. It was rainy, muddy, foggy and cold, but still very fun.
On Thursday evening we had a Viking inspired dinner in a longhouse with mutton, reindeer and lots of alcohol. It was delicious. Later in the evening some of us got in an outdoor hot tub. The water was a little bit too hot, so we had to cool down by taking dips in a small ice-covered lake. My closest colleagues know I'm gay. I'm always a little worried how straight guys feel about being in a "locker room situation" with me, but when we were showering off I didn't sense any awkwardness. I had such a good time and felt that us closest colleagues really connected during the two days.
Now that we've returned, I feel almost sad and lonely compared to the good time that I had on the excursion. What worries me is that I may be getting too attached to the people at my workplace, and that I rely too much on my colleagues when it comes to fulfilling my social needs. I even feel some attraction and desire for cuddling in varying degrees. This isn't the first time I've been attracted to straight guys. Usually I'm able to deal with that just fine, but it has been known to complicate matters on occasion. There are no complications at work at the moment, but I am slightly worried and I wonder what I should do about the situation.
Should I welcome the close connection we have at work and count myself lucky for having such a good working environment? I know I would enjoy meeting up more often for social activities with some of my colleagues.
One of my worries is that it's a somewhat of dead end when it comes to romance. Should I let that worry me? And then there's the attraction. I certainly don't want any complications at work. Actually, none are boyfriend material or anything like that, so I'm not so worried about the attraction as I am the desire to cuddle.
Any advice is welcome.
Zaid, if I remember correctly, you brought up a similar issue. I'm trying to find the post, but I'm failing. Maybe you have some further insights on this.
Hey, everyone, how are things?
I just got back from seeing Jarhead, and I now say that every last one of you should go and see it. Aside from the loads of military man meat, as well as Jake Gyllenhall's finely toned ass, it's a wonderful film.
But yeah. If good films don't do it for you, go it see it for the hot Marines.
I just got back from seeing Jarhead, and I now say that every last one of you should go and see it. Aside from the loads of military man meat, as well as Jake Gyllenhall's finely toned ass, it's a wonderful film.
But yeah. If good films don't do it for you, go it see it for the hot Marines.
That'll be the only thing I get out of it. =P I won't understand the movie, just that there are hot guys in it.Guitarius said:
I'm back already. It isn't easy to dance two nights in a row, I got really tired within an hour of dancing. I wasn't feeling the energy tonight either. Usually when I'm tired I keep dancing anyways because the energy in the room is thriving and I just can't force myself to stop. Tonight, it was very easy to stop. I still enjoyed myself though . But I must admit - it feels great to be at home and to drink hot green tea while I try unsuccessfully to get ahead of some of my homework .
I like Madonna as a boundary crosser and as a celebrity, but I'm not a fan of her music. I don't find any of it to be interesting personally - then again I've only heard the singles, for the most part, so I am reserving judgment for later. I loved Evita - the movie and the soundtrack. They played a lot of Madonna at the club tonight. Sorry, but I really don't like her new single. Every time I hear "Time goes by... so slowly..." I think Oh God... not this song again. They played that, a remix of Like a Prayer (which isn't bad at all), and one other song which I can't recall at the moment, all within the span of an hour and a half.
As for you gekko, I had a huge crush on a guy during high school who was (and still is) straight. I was incredibly shy during high school (not so much anymore ), so I never talked to him. Not a single word. He dropped a handkerchief once and I handed it to him, he said thanks, and that was the only interaction we ever had. Letting myself get so attached was so pathetic. I would think about him many times throughout the day - it was unhealthy. So, don't let a crush build into something unhealthy. If you are attracted to a straight guy, just try to let that attraction go. It's the only thing you can do, unfortunately. I forgot whether or not I told this story, but I ended up emailing him after I came to New York, and I told him about how I had a huge crush on him, and how I am over that and much happier with my life. He emailed me back saying that there were no awkward feelings and that he was glad that I was able to find myself and to get over my loneliness.
So, my recommendation would be to not deny your attractions, but don't get your hopes up about something that is impossible. Don't let yourself get attached to something that will never happen. I'm attracted to straight guys more than gay guys for the most part, they are more honest in general I think. But now I don't let those attractions build up into something unhealthy.
Sorry, that advice was totally lame, but it's the best I can give.
_Emerson
. But I must admit - it feels great to be at home and to drink hot green tea while I try unsuccessfully to get ahead of some of my homework .I like Madonna as a boundary crosser and as a celebrity, but I'm not a fan of her music. I don't find any of it to be interesting personally
- then again I've only heard the singles, for the most part, so I am reserving judgment for later. I loved Evita - the movie and the soundtrack. They played a lot of Madonna at the club tonight. Sorry, but I really don't like her new single. Every time I hear "Time goes by... so slowly..." I think Oh God... not this song again. They played that, a remix of Like a Prayer (which isn't bad at all), and one other song which I can't recall at the moment, all within the span of an hour and a half.As for you gekko, I had a huge crush on a guy during high school who was (and still is
) straight. I was incredibly shy during high school (not so much anymore ), so I never talked to him. Not a single word. He dropped a handkerchief once and I handed it to him, he said thanks, and that was the only interaction we ever had. Letting myself get so attached was so pathetic. I would think about him many times throughout the day - it was unhealthy. So, don't let a crush build into something unhealthy. If you are attracted to a straight guy, just try to let that attraction go. It's the only thing you can do, unfortunately. I forgot whether or not I told this story, but I ended up emailing him after I came to New York, and I told him about how I had a huge crush on him, and how I am over that and much happier with my life. He emailed me back saying that there were no awkward feelings and that he was glad that I was able to find myself and to get over my loneliness.So, my recommendation would be to not deny your attractions, but don't get your hopes up about something that is impossible. Don't let yourself get attached to something that will never happen. I'm attracted to straight guys more than gay guys for the most part, they are more honest in general I think. But now I don't let those attractions build up into something unhealthy.
Sorry, that advice was totally lame, but it's the best I can give.
_Emerson
scem0 said:I'm back already. It isn't easy to dance two nights in a row, I got really tired within an hour of dancing. I wasn't feeling the energy tonight either. Usually when I'm tired I keep dancing anyways because the energy in the room is thriving and I just can't force myself to stop. Tonight, it was very easy to stop. I still enjoyed myself though
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As for you gekko, I had a huge crush on a guy during high school who was (and still is
So, my recommendation would be to not deny your attractions, but don't get your hopes up about something that is impossible. Don't let yourself get attached to something that will never happen. I'm attracted to straight guys more than gay guys for the most part, they are more honest in general I think. But now I don't let those attractions build up into something unhealthy.
Sorry, that advice was totally lame, but it's the best I can give.
_Emerson
Wow I think I'm in love with you
I love Green Tea, just love it love it love it.
Jarhead looks good. I don't usually like war movies, because they tend to be more about the wars than the ideology behind them, but this one looks really good. Plus, even though I'm not attracted to Jake G., he looks damn fine in this one. A lot beefier than normal . He has a knack for picking interesting roles, which makes me want to watch this even more (along with Brokeback mountain).
I'll probably Netflix it when it's available. I might go and see it in theaters too, but I'd rather see Brokeback Mountain in theaters and I can't afford to see movies all the time in theater. Well, that's not how I prefer to spend my money at least .
_Emerson
I love tea in general! I'm a bit of a tea freak:
You should see my tea collection. It's rather small right now, I left most of it at home, but in NYC I have: Regular Green Tea, Celestial Seasoning's Sleepytime tea, an assortment of single tea bags from Mighty Leaf, Good Earth black tea, Organic Moroccan Mint tea, Good earth jasmine tea, HT cinnamon tea, the Republic of Tea's Honey Gensing tea, and Stash Chai Spice tea.
The regular green tea is probably my favorite. Simple, good, and an anti-oxidant.
The Organic Moroccan mint is also excellent.
Sleepytime is one of my favorite teas and I'm not a big fan of Celestial Seasonings. It's mostly mint and chamomile.
I miss my Dim Sum Bo Nay black tea a lot, I forgot it back in Austin, and it was one of my favorite teas. It's a black oolong tea. Women in China drink oolong tea to lose weight because it fills you up, and I drank it a lot when I was on my diet senior year. It has an extremely musky flavor, but it is quite good.
I try to avoid coffee drinks, and drink black tea instead. I drink tea all the time to suit my moods. Right now I'm in a very Moroccan Mint mood.
When I go back to Austin for winter break the two of the first things I'm going to do are (1) go to this Vietnamese restaurant that I'm obsessed with that is only a few miles from my house and (2) make a cup of my Dim Sum Bo Nay oolong tea! I'm such a loser...
_Emerson
. He has a knack for picking interesting roles, which makes me want to watch this even more (along with Brokeback mountain).I'll probably Netflix it when it's available. I might go and see it in theaters too, but I'd rather see Brokeback Mountain in theaters and I can't afford to see movies all the time in theater
. Well, that's not how I prefer to spend my money at least ._Emerson
slooksterPSV said:Wow I think I'm in love with you
I love tea in general! I'm a bit of a tea freak
:You should see my tea collection. It's rather small right now, I left most of it at home, but in NYC I have: Regular Green Tea, Celestial Seasoning's Sleepytime tea, an assortment of single tea bags from Mighty Leaf, Good Earth black tea, Organic Moroccan Mint tea, Good earth jasmine tea, HT cinnamon tea, the Republic of Tea's Honey Gensing tea, and Stash Chai Spice tea.
The regular green tea is probably my favorite. Simple, good, and an anti-oxidant
.The Organic Moroccan mint is also excellent.
Sleepytime is one of my favorite teas and I'm not a big fan of Celestial Seasonings. It's mostly mint and chamomile.
I miss my Dim Sum Bo Nay black tea a lot
, I forgot it back in Austin, and it was one of my favorite teas. It's a black oolong tea. Women in China drink oolong tea to lose weight because it fills you up, and I drank it a lot when I was on my diet senior year. It has an extremely musky flavor, but it is quite good.I try to avoid coffee drinks, and drink black tea instead. I drink tea all the time to suit my moods. Right now I'm in a very Moroccan Mint mood
.When I go back to Austin for winter break the two of the first things I'm going to do are (1) go to this Vietnamese restaurant that I'm obsessed with that is only a few miles from my house and (2) make a cup of my Dim Sum Bo Nay oolong tea! I'm such a loser...
_Emerson
Your story is familiar. I've been in similar situations before and it was unhealthy. That's partly why I fear getting too attached to the guys at work.scem0 said:Letting myself get so attached was so pathetic. I would think about him many times throughout the day - it was unhealthy. So, don't let a crush build into something unhealthy. If you are attracted to a straight guy, just try to let that attraction go. It's the only thing you can do, unfortunately. I forgot whether or not I told this story, but I ended up emailing him after I came to New York, and I told him about how I had a huge crush on him, and how I am over that and much happier with my life. He emailed me back saying that there were no awkward feelings and that he was glad that I was able to find myself and to get over my loneliness.
So, my recommendation would be to not deny your attractions, but don't get your hopes up about something that is impossible. Don't let yourself get attached to something that will never happen. I'm attracted to straight guys more than gay guys for the most part, they are more honest in general I think. But now I don't let those attractions build up into something unhealthy.
Sorry, that advice was totally lame, but it's the best I can give.
_Emerson
My dilemma is really if I should trust myself to be more level headed now that I'm aware of the dangers from past experiences. Will I be able to sense it in time if the situation is about to turn unhealthy.
When I think about it, it seems that it would be even more unhealthy to shy away from people. If I make it a problem having close friendships with straight men just because of my own fear, it would really be sad.
scem0 said:
I am trying to wind down from an emotional, yet some what fun evening myself. It was our company Holiday Party. This year on the Odyssey III dinner ship.
Sad to say it was my first time out in a really large social gathering of people I knew since the break-up. Really didn't want to go, since for the six years that I had been with the company - Teddy and I were one as far as these people knew. I growing friend at work, Jennifer, talked me in to going. I did warn her that I wasn't ready to deal with people asking about "where's Teddy?". I think she did her job well. <g>
Emo, you will be happy to know that I did get to the dance floor twice tonight. Even though I stated that I have three left feet. Jenni, did comment that I wasn't too far off. <g> Age, and abuse has done damage over the years to my knees. She is a really great person, and look forward to going out more with her. She is like me, a social animal. And she will provide good company, as we look forward to what lies ahead for us in our individual lives.
She even on a dead night at work did a search for Gay men that I could date on Match.Com! I told her that any "date" better come with a complete police report, job history, and a set of financials. <g>
The real bummer of the evening came during the part that the principals of the company recognize those that have made the 5, 10, and 20 year marks. We did not have a party last year, so they also included six year associates. My name was passed over. It hurt. It just makes me wonder why I want to stay. The company is one of the reasons so far that I have resisted wanting to change jobs/locations/cities. For they do value longevity. But I was made to feel tonight that I was not part of that long term plan. I may know more in a week and half when my review comes up.
I like Madonna as a boundary crosser and as a celebrity, but I'm not a fan of her music. I don't find any of it to be interesting personally
You and I differ here. Love most of her body of work, except for Evita. Tried to watch the film a few times, and just got bored. Same with the album.
As for you gekko, I had a huge crush on a guy during high school who was (and still is
So, my recommendation would be to not deny your attractions, but don't get your hopes up about something that is impossible. Don't let yourself get attached to something that will never happen. I'm attracted to straight guys more than gay guys for the most part, they are more honest in general I think. But now I don't let those attractions build up into something unhealthy.
Sorry, that advice was totally lame, but it's the best I can give.
_Emerson
I guess that I have been lucky so far in the workplace. When there was closeness with my Str* co-workers, I think that there was an understanding that there boundaries that would not be crossed. Add to that I was taught early on that there is no fishing off the company dock, or dipping the pen in the company inkwell.
Today I take the hugs and the brief touches as a form of human communication. And do not desire to try and read in to that.
OK, I am a loser without expanded cable TV. A friend just sent me an episode of 30 Days (Straight-Gay). Very moving. It dealt with a 24yo conservative Christian guy moving in to the Castro with a Gay roommate.
For those that might have seen, how do you think you would deal with living, socializing, and working in a Red State Christian community?
I'll save my comments for a bit...
Don't switch avatars with other members! Damn near had a heart attack when rereading the thread!
For those that might have seen, how do you think you would deal with living, socializing, and working in a Red State Christian community?
I'll save my comments for a bit...
gekko513 said:
Don't switch avatars with other members!
Damn near had a heart attack when rereading the thread!
Chip NoVaMac said:
I am happy
. Did you dance like a slut? That would have made me even prouder, but I understand that you were in a professional environment .In regards to your knees, this is actually a huge fear of mine. I walk everywhere, I dance a lot, and I have done lots of amateur gymnastics throughout the years. All 3 activities are very knee intensive and very close to my heart. I would hate to not be able to do any one of those. Am I going to be walking around like an 80 year old by the time I hit 40?
_Emerson
Tea is beautiful and your post just recalled a japanese restaurant I used to frequent, I have not set foot in the place since 26th November last year. Prior to this I has there nearly every night of the week for three and a half years. I saw my clients there. It is only my bloody mindedness that has kept me away. All the staff save one, I loved and I think they loved me. The green tea in burning hot mugs (?) Oh and the green tea ice cream too. And sake, either hot or cold. To the point, I have not had tea since ceasing my visitations. A year of cutting off my nose to spite my face. I have teas in my kitchen, and they stay there. I really don't know why. After a year it must be time for me to brew again. I'll never set foot in the Restaurant again, but that's no reason to keep tea and me apart. It feels like a happy homecoming already.scem0 said:I love tea in general! I'm a bit of a tea freak
When I go back to Austin for winter break the two of the first things I'm going to do are (1) go to this Vietnamese restaurant that I'm obsessed with that is only a few miles from my house and (2) make a cup of my Dim Sum Bo Nay oolong tea! I'm such a loser...
_Emerson
Sorry about the rave, now I just need to suss out the reason why. It's like a demon that needs to be exorcised.
Kevin
aka Grey Beard (leaving his capo di capi, cap at the door)
MontyZ said:
Some of my favorites:
- Alanis Morissette
- Alicia Keys
- Andrea Boccelli
- Andrew Lloyd Webber
- Billie Holiday *
- Bjork *
- Christina Aguilera
- Coldplay
- Dashboard Confessional
- Ella Fitz *
- Emiliana Torrini
- Enya
- Erykah Badu
- Fiona Apple*
- The Fugees
- India Arie
- Jack Johnson
- Jamie Cullum
- Jason Mraz
- Jewel
- Lauryn Hill *
- Maria Callas
- Mariah Carey *
- Mates of State *
- Nina Simone
- Norah Jones
- Rent, the play
- Rilo Kiley
- Sade *
- Tori Amos *
- Tracy Chapman *
- Yma Sumac
- Chet Baker*
I made a couple updates in regards to my *'s since the last time I posted this list, same artists though. Been listening to a lot of Fiona Apple lately. Never is a Promise from 'Tidal' is quickly climbing my list of favorite songs. I haven't listened to Jason Mraz in a while, so I took his * away. Same goes for Coldplay. Chet Baker got a *, I just can't get enough of his voice, and I'm not partial to male voices.
_Emerson
Sorry about that ... According to comments in this thread it could be problems with the cache ... or something entirely different.Chip NoVaMac said:Don't switch avatars with other members!
Chip NoVaMac said:
I totally agree. I don't want get involved with anyone at the workplace. I do want to be friends with some of them, though, because they are great people and I enjoy their company.MontyZ said:
Grey Beard said:
Mmmm... green tea ice cream. I've only had green tea ice cream once (at a Japanese restaurant, no less
) and it was wonderful.I'm not a fan of the green tea frappuccino's at Starbucks though. Doesn't even have a hint of green tea taste in it, if you ask me.
Start drinking tea again! It's healthy, tasty, and oh so satisfying.
_Emerson
I've also developed a taste for green tea lately. It's partly replacing coffee, for me. To my surprise, I've also found that artificially sweetened green tea lemonade tastes great. It's probably artifical flavour, too, but I don't care about that.
I'm sorry to hear that your name was passed over. Do you think it was a mistake?
Sounds like Jennifer is a friend to keep. She seems to care.Chip NoVaMac said:
I'm sorry to hear that your name was passed over. Do you think it was a mistake?
scem0 said:I am happy
LOL.
If I did that they would have had to call the shore patrol to take me in to the ER for knee replacement.
For me it is was the fact that I did dance like a slut in my 20's. You have seen some pics of me in my "lean years". I was lean (like you) because I went out every Fri., Sat, and Sun. dancing. Did knee drops, and Kosak dancer moves on the dance floor.
I was even able to do some unmentionable things by myself, in private. Oh, those were the days. My doctor is feeling that if I get my weight down to 200-220#'s, that my knee problems won't be as bad. He recommended a couple weeks ago that I look into Tia-Chai as a way to gain flexibility as I try to lose weight.
My doctor is encouraged that my knees don't seem to bother me much as I do my walking tours of SF and Chicago. Leading him to think that that it is standing around on the retail floor with my extra weight is the problem. He is very resistant to surgery at this point for me (the reason that I like this doctor - no needless surgeries or meds). Yes, my activities in the past will have an effect long term. But he is more concerned about the family history of arthritis being prevalent starting at age 50-55 in my family.
Yeah, Jennifer sounds great. I just love level headed, good people. It's so refreshing to have them around .
_Emerson
That is a very wise recommendation of your doctor. I absolutely love tai chi. I took lots of martial arts from the the age of 10 to 17. I never took tai chi until I was about 16, and when I did I saw an immediate increase in my reflexes. I did much better in my kung fu when I took it along with tai chi. I was playing basketball for my high school at the time and it helped me a lot.
It would definitely help with flexibility. I miss being flexible. When I was really young and was diving competitively, I was very flexible. I have lost all that flexibility . I'm still a tiny bit more flexible than the average guy, but I miss my diving flexibility.
Tai Chi will help you in so many ways. I think it's one of the most healthy physical activities that you can do. Actually, it's so much more than a physical activity. It's moving meditation. It'll help you be more centered mentally. It's just an all around great thing to do.
Your doctor sounds very good.
_Emerson
._Emerson
Chip NoVaMac said:
That is a very wise recommendation of your doctor. I absolutely love tai chi. I took lots of martial arts from the the age of 10 to 17. I never took tai chi until I was about 16, and when I did I saw an immediate increase in my reflexes. I did much better in my kung fu when I took it along with tai chi. I was playing basketball for my high school at the time and it helped me a lot.
It would definitely help with flexibility. I miss being flexible
. When I was really young and was diving competitively, I was very flexible. I have lost all that flexibility . I'm still a tiny bit more flexible than the average guy, but I miss my diving flexibility.Tai Chi will help you in so many ways. I think it's one of the most healthy physical activities that you can do. Actually, it's so much more than a physical activity. It's moving meditation. It'll help you be more centered mentally. It's just an all around great thing to do.
Your doctor sounds very good
._Emerson
gekko513 said:
That she as I found out tonight. She and I have talked. I think she is concerned that I travel too much by myself. And since this past Spring I have limited myself to small gathering of people for the most part.
She is a gal that is looking for Mr. Right. And in some ways feels that there is a Ms. Right (or another Mr. Right) is out there for all of us. But only when things are right.
If anything she is teaching me to be myself again. One that enjoyed being around lots of people. And after working in very conservative companies, where I had to keep things a bit more quiet, that there can be harmless fun in going out with co-workers.
Not quite sure on this one. I am more of a Type B person when it comes to interpersonal relationships at work. But more of a Type A, when it comes to getting the job done.
The comfort that I have in my job at this point is that the managers I work with seem to recognize my efforts. The telling point will be in a week and half with my review. It is my first review since I returned to the sales floor.
tai chi is great - at my gym they have a class called body balance, which incorporates parts of tai chi, yoga and pilates.. it's really a good workout.. speaking of workouts.. i am so in need for a good cardio workout.. :/ I really should go clubbing sometime.. havent been in a while..
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