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Nope, tax polices and outpacing overall stock market has nothing to do with why the image was shown.
I was just talking about the stock, not the battery issue. Of course this is awful and they need to do something about it before the battery issue become a PR disaster.

According to what I saw on Twitter, they added a few lines on powerd to throttle the CPU clock speed in 10.2.1 to prevent the shut down issue by then. This kind of “fix” is indeed irresponsible. Aside from the fact that the battery tech has not advanced in years, the software quality of these tech giants are lowering significantly lately.
 
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IT isn’t just THIS throttling my 2 iPhone6’s, and destroying the battery life on the older one that Never was an issue, but it is THIS consistent Slowing down of all my Macs, iPhones and iPads every turn of the cog, everytime they introduce new macs, devices and OS’s.

It literally takes 20-30 seconds to launch the camera app on the iPhone6 , Wasting my time, and causing me to miss pictures…

This purposeful ruining of “old” devices, plus hiding functionality (can’t rate nor play all an artists songs in iOS iTunes, Mysteriously Auto Rating whole Albums to fill up devices, the HORRIBLY INANE spell checker (can’t auto correct the words AND nor THE!!/Changes Words to completely something different!), un-adapting iOS Keyboard and backward curser placement that CHEESES ME OFF to no extent.

So with the "current" OS "Notification" that won’t go away on my MacBook to upgrade to High Sierra and irreversible filling up my Time Machine HDD that I of cour$e decided to buy a new iMac over the weekend…

On the plus side after wasting 2 precious days effing with all of my files and HDDs, especially getting all the files onto a Hard Drive and 12 hours spent to delete an old Time Machine from the HDD, but after the initial setup, the logging into my apple ID was great and fantastic, and pretty much got my new iMac up to speed immediately, but the lame can’t find songs and other ******** that makes me hate Apple sooooo much.

It’s basically a daily yearly fight to have these way overpriced devices work right as well as the planned obsolesce of 2 year old devices that pisses me off.

I have been buying Macs since 88 before Photoshop 1.0, but I would think twice before "gifting" Apple precious Thousands for a new device.

In fact I bought the iMac on Craigslist, saving enough to buy a new iPhoneX, but alas I refuse to do so at this moment of AINGST!!

Love Hate…

It’s basically ********…

Besides this, Apple is sucking Any and ALL the extra TIME, ATTENTION and MONEY away from EVERYBODY…

This tipping point was seeing a 10 year old kid of a friend of mine at Disneyland stuck inside his iPhone instead of the hear and now. At Disneyland!!

Cheers…

I doubt the apple “geniuses” are reading of this, or reacting to it in any positive way, as their abusive sales model made Apple into the worlds most valuable co after the toxic oil co’s

BTW, I still have and use my original iPad1 with the beautiful Earth Photo Screen that we all USED to know and Love (at work to play music on its 128Gigs), and it IS what made the dream possible. SHAME on Apple for ALL this BS. I’de be using my Click Wheel iPods but alas they “broke”

Steve Jobs would be rolling in his grave…
 
I don't have a problem with power management routines reducing CPU speed to compensate for low battery capacity - what I have a problem with is Apple HIDING WHAT THEY DID, and not allowing the user to have a choice. That's pretty shameful.

Apple, put a setting in the dang battery settings that allows a user to choose "longer battery life -vs- better performance". A 3 or 4 position slider would be perfectly adequate.
Lol this is not how power management should be implemented. They could have built it into low power mode instead of forcing it on everyone
 
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Nah, it was far from obvious when you use terms like We, Our and Us.

Seems like this affects older phones.
I'm on the upgrade every year.

Until it stands up in court all you have is hypothesis.

Only you can answer that.

Hey whatever you say, keep fighting for Apple and blindly ignoring the obvious.
As long as you keep handing them money and upgrade every year you will be fine:D
Keep putting coins in every month or your phone might stop working :D
 
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Anyone having the same problem as me?

My iPhone 6s battery depletes within 45 minutes of moderate gaming (at least sort of). The battery will go from 100 to 1% -- however, the phone still works for almost an hour at 1%. It makes it really tough to actually gauge how much life I actually have left.

I'm trying to hold out as long as possible, hoping this will last until the next upgrade cycle.
 



Primate Labs founder John Poole has plotted the kernel density of Geekbench 4 scores for iPhone 6s models running iOS 10.2, iOS 10.2.1, and iOS 11.2, visualizing an apparent link between lower performance and degraded battery health.

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The charts show that on iOS 10.2, the vast majority of iPhone 6s devices benchmarked similarly in performance. However, Poole explains that the distribution of iPhone 6s scores for iOS 10.2.1 appears multimodal, with one large peak around the average and several smaller peaks around lower scores.

In other words, after iOS 10.2.1 was released last January, the performance of a percentage of iPhone 6s devices began to suffer.

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In a statement, Apple said it made improvements in iOS 10.2.1 to reduce occurrences of unexpected iPhone shutdowns that a small number of users were experiencing. The shutdowns were reportedly caused by uneven power delivery from older batteries, which could cause an emergency shutdown of the devices.

While at least one report suggested that Apple tweaked its power management system in iPhone 6s devices, the company never disclosed what specific improvements it made to reduce the unexpected shutdowns.

A recent Reddit discussion, however, has reignited speculation that Apple is intentionally slowing down older iPhones to maximize power efficiency and stability when battery capacity has degraded, and reduce voltage-related shutdowns, and the Geekbench charts and Poole himself lend credit to that theory being true.

"The difference between iOS 10.2 and 10.2.1 is too abrupt to be just a function of battery condition," he said. "I believe ... that Apple introduced a change to limit performance when battery condition decreases past a certain point."

The charts show that the number of iPhone 6s devices with lower Geekbench scores was even more pronounced on iOS 11.2, which is likely because the software update is around one year newer, which means that the battery capacity of many iPhone 6s devices has likely continued to deplete as expected.

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Interestingly, even the iPhone 7 may be starting to be affected. While the distribution of Geekbench scores for the device on iOS 10.2, iOS 10.2.1, and iOS 11.1.2 appear identical, the results change with iOS 11.2 and start to resemble the iPhone 6s' degraded performance starting on iOS 10.2.1.

What this all means is that Apple may be intentionally slowing down older iPhones to maximize power efficiency and stability when battery capacity has degraded, as speculated, seemingly without publicly acknowledging so.

It's important to remember that all lithium-ion batteries naturally lose some of their ability to hold a charge over the course of a few years. Given the iPhone 6s was released in September 2015, the device has been available long enough that some users should consider replacing their battery regardless.

Apple charges an out-of-warranty fee of $79 to replace the battery of all eligible iPhone models in the United States. iPhone 6s users can contact AppleCare or schedule a Genius Bar appointment at a local Apple Store using the Apple Support app.

Apple did not immediately respond to our request for comment about the Geekbench findings. We'll update this article if we hear back.

Article Link: Geekbench Results Visualize Possible Link Between iPhone Slowdowns and Degraded Batteries
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I don't have a problem with power management routines reducing CPU speed to compensate for low battery capacity - what I have a problem with is Apple HIDING WHAT THEY DID, and not allowing the user to have a choice. That's pretty shameful.

Apple, put a setting in the dang battery settings that allows a user to choose "longer battery life -vs- better performance". A 3 or 4 position slider would be perfectly adequate.

On my Galaxy S7 I can drop the screen resolution and limit cpu if I need to lengthen battery life. Really helps.

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The more worrying problem is, the faulty batteries tends to pass Apple's diagnostic tests on which ground Apple can deny exchanging your battery. Pre 10.2.1, my mother's iPhone 6 was shutting down at around 30/40% but after plug in the charger it would boot right up and display the battery to be 80-90%. Post 10.2.1, the shutting down at 30/40% issue was indeed gone but it also became excruciatingly slow. I brought it in for service and was told all was in good working order, the geniuses placed the cause for the slow speeds on everything from aged flash memory, to non optimized software etc... It boggled my mind they would even refuse installing a new battery when I offered to pay for it. Suppose my phone is in absolutely great working order without any issues whatsoever, and I just want to install a new battery every 2 years for any reasons at all, apparently you are only "allowed" to do so on Apple devices with Apple's permission.
I get that Apple Geniuses are not always genius at diagnosing issues, but you push your point too far when you claim you can't replace your battery whenever you want. Apple is not the only place that replaces iPhone batteries, if in fact, Apple refused to take your money. After 2 years you are out of warranty so you don't have to worry about that aspect of going outside of the Apple repair loop. As a bonus it would most likely be done for less.
 
what? No it doesn't. An attempt to maintain stability due to degrading batteries would be the opposite. Until battery technology improves, this is a thing unfortunately.

So to be clear, an attempt to slow down the iphone solely to make new iphones attractive is NOT what this article is saying.
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Some iPhone 6s had defective batteries. Apple is using a software cheat to throttle the cpus in the iPhone 6s because they don't want to do a full recall of all iPhone 6s batteries.

This new report says the iPhone 7 are also being throttled. What is the purpose of doing that except make those users want to do a hardware upgrade? What other reason is there to throttle iPhone 7 models?
 
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Hey whatever you say, keep fighting for Apple and blindly ignoring the obvious.
You have no evidence I am ignoring the obvious.
As long as you keep handing them money and upgrade every year you will be fine
That's true about many things.
So what?
Keep putting coins in every month or your phone might stop working :D
Yep that is a choice.

Since you feel strongly about this why not try and do something about it, start the class action since now you have proof.

Otherwise you're just background noise in the ever deafening waaambulance siren.
 
I am beginning to believe that Apple sends out little bullets with new IOS updates to cause older phones to run poorly in hopes that you will upgrade and buy another newer model phone and sign another 2yr contract.
 
Nope. Apple will not replace your battery if it passes their test. Call any Apple Store and see for yourself.

I’ve had a battery replaced even though it passed their test. It “just barely” passed, but still passed. You should not speak in absolutes.


It’s funny to see the complete lack of any real data on this yet people have already determined the actual cause. What I haven’t seen so far are:

- Primate Labs showing their scores vs battery charge percentage.
- Primate Labs showing their scores vs the actual battery capacity (degradation). Admittedly this would be almost impossible for them to do.
- Anyone showing results for other benchmarks (like Antutu) at varying states of charge and battery conditions.
- Anyone showing Apps running slower on different states of charge (like a game running at half the FPS or a video App taking twice as long to render a project).

While there’s definitely something going on here, it’s impossible to determine without a lot more testing.
 
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Batteries are problematic.
Rechargeable batteries even more so.
The harder the battery is used and the more cycles put on the battery will lead to a faster decline in the stability of the battery. This is not just an Apple problem. The plaintive crys of lawsuits or massive recalls are silly. Apple did do a recall of some iPhone 6s batteries when it was shown that a set of batteries were acting in a non-standard way. My 6s battery was replaced under this program.
What does bother me is not the fact that Apple maybe trying to lengthen the charge life of a battery by hindering the performance of the phone but that Apple is not letting users know that the phone is beginning to experience performance hits because the battery has begun to lose its efficiency. If this story is true, Apple already has software that determines when the battery is showing signs of wear so Apple could include a message to the user that the user may experience some performance hits due to the aging battery and that the user may wish to consider replacing the battery when the performance of the phone significantly hampers its use. Apple could have this pop up on the screen on a monthly basis once its software has determined that performance needs to be throttled to lengthen phone usage time.
Complainers will complain but batteries don't last forever and I would rather know when the downward cycle has begun so I can determine when replacing the battery best fits my schedule. This is also good news in that the slow downs in older phones could more than likely be because of an aging battery and not because my older phone can't adequately run the new software.
Apple also had a battery issue with iPhone 5 too, only certain serial numbers were affected though, but Apple did have a battery replacement program for them, but it took them a while to admit there was a problem, but I had a free battery replacement for my iPhone 5 because of it.
 
You have no evidence I am ignoring the obvious.

That's true about many things.
So what?

Yep that is a choice.

Since you feel strongly about this why not try and do something about it, start the class action since now you have proof.

Otherwise you're just background noise in the ever deafening waaambulance siren.

Plenty of evidence with CPU and battery reports posted. While you sit there playing your violin :D
I will take part of a lawsuit and will speak my mind and the truth no matter how much you complain and try to argue and act like everything is fine and Apple is great for doing what they're doing.
That's my choice, your choice is to continue handing them your money while they rip you off. Go for it :D
 
So basically Apple just can't win!

Iphone users experience random shutdowns due to degraded batteries causing low voltage shutdowns... users complain ...!

They were not degraded batteries, they were defective batteries. Apple admitted they were defective and issued a recall and free replacement. Problem was they only said a small number of users serial numbers qualify.

If the iOS software can detect a defective battery and throttle the cpu (remember, not all iPhone 6s users are throttled), why can't it instead pop up a message box saying your battery is bad?

https://www.apple.com/support/iphone6s-unexpectedshutdown/
 
Hmm. A piece of equipment a couple years old, in this case a cell phone, doesn't perform like it did the day I first bought it. Wow, I'm stunned. Of course I can say the same thing about my car, my TV, my desktop computer, my laptop, my Roku, my stove, my furnace, my air conditioner, my water heater, all of which I paid one heck of a lot more for than my phone. It's a conspiracy and we should all "lawyer up." I want all the things I buy to perform like new for as long as I keep them no matter how I treat them or use them!

Sometimes reality just doesn't match our unreasonable expectations.
 
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I’ve had a battery replaced even though it passed their test. It “just barely” passed, but still passed. You should not speak in absolutes.


It’s funny to see the complete lack of any real data on this yet people have already determined the actual cause. What I haven’t seen so far are:

- Primate Labs showing their scores vs battery charge percentage.
- Primate Labs showing their scores vs the actual battery capacity (degradation). Admittedly this would be almost impossible for them to do.
- Anyone showing results for other benchmarks (like Antutu) at varying states of charge and battery conditions.
- Anyone showing Apps running slower on different states of charge (like a game running at half the FPS or a video App taking twice as long to render a project).

While there’s definitely something going on here, it’s impossible to determine without a lot more testing.

Or a response from Apple even a simple “we are aware of this and are investigating “
 
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Hmm. A piece of equipment a couple years old, in this case a cell phone, doesn't perform like it did the day I first bought it. Wow, I'm stunned. Of course I can say the same thing about my car, my TV, my desktop computer, my laptop, my Roku, my stove, my furnace, my air conditioner, my water heater, all of which I paid one heck of a lot more for than my phone. It's a conspiracy and we should all "lawyer up." I want all the things I buy to perform like new for as long as I keep them no matter how I treat them or use them!

Sometimes reality just doesn't match our unreasonable expectations.

That's not at all what anyone here is saying and you're ignoring the tests that are done to just say "nothing wrong here, move along".

Why are people so hostile anytime someone brings up an issue with their beloved Apple? You all act like you belong to a cult. No need to abolish religion, Apple and others will just replace your belief system.
 
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My iPhone 6 took a noticeable hit to the speed of just about everything when I upgraded to iOS 11. It's infuriatingly slow now.

I have the same issue. Iphone 6 plus. Downloaded CPU Dasher X and run at either 600Mhz or 839 Mhz. Geekbench scores were roughly half: 790 vs. 1471 (single core) and 1351 vs. 2472 (multi core).

It would be nice if iOS tracked battery cycles and there was a toggle between performance and battery life/dependability. I have already changed out the camera module on this phone... it wasn't too tough. A battery is on the way. I'm hoping that speeds things up a bit :). Some areas of lag are quite frustrating.
 
"In other words, after iOS 10.2.1 was released last January, the performance of a percentage of iPhone 6s devices began to suffer."

How is always how can u keep the same performance when u are adding more features which would slow it down? The hardware doesn't change on the same phone just because the OS changes... so at some stage, your gonna have issues after the "upgrade"
 
"In other words, after iOS 10.2.1 was released last January, the performance of a percentage of iPhone 6s devices began to suffer."

My argument is always how can u keep the same performance when u are adding more features which would slow it down? The hardware doesn't change on the same phone just because the OS changes... so at some stage, your gonna have issues after the "upgrade"
But throttling the CPU?
 
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"In other words, after iOS 10.2.1 was released last January, the performance of a percentage of iPhone 6s devices began to suffer."

My argument is always how can u keep the same performance when u are adding more features which would slow it down? The hardware doesn't change on the same phone just because the OS changes... so at some stage, your gonna have issues after the "upgrade"

Please read what this issue is about. Has nothing to do with added features in iOS
 
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