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Also, a lol @ Apple for hilariously changing their terms of service in September to allow game streaming services. Of course it was a joke and the big players didn’t have none of it.
 
Lets see how apple will block this, since they cant make any money now.

That said, limiting developers only matters in the context of limiting customers, and only because it's artificial. If there were some technical reason they couldn't permit sideloading, which of course there is not, then developers and customers alike would have no complaint.

It's easy to say that customers have made their choice and should live with it, but customers with regrets fall into two categories: Those who knew what they were getting into, and those who didn't. And the latter category is further divided into people who didn't know because they didn't know anything about it, and those who thought that they were getting a feature when what they were really getting was a drawback. Both of those categories deserve redress, however.

Apple is refusing to permit sideloading because and only because it protects their revenues. Android shows that there is no harm from sideloading to users who do not turn on sideloading. As such, Apple's refusal is purely anticompetitive.

Actually, Apple can technically block this since it has full control of any web browser on iOS. It just needs to remove a key feature or two from safari in a future iOS update.

Honestly, news like this makes me think that Apple will stop introducing new features to safari in order to prevent developers from choosing to create a web app over a native app. Maybe this is the reason they don’t allow any other web browser engine in the AppStore. Every browser in iOS is a wrapper of apple’s own WebKit engine.
You genuinely think Apple is going to try to block this, of all things, from working in safari? Even though lots of paid services are available through a web browsers and have been for decades including video services and porn, you think THIS is going to be the thing that makes apple block a website across all their devices?
 
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I've seen a few comments about Fortnite being dead.

It's not dead. By any stretch. BUT. It's currently being driven by 12 year olds - as opposed to adults. You've got a ton of kids out there who can't physically socialize with their friends, so they use gaming - quite often Fortnite - as a place to socialize.

Yes, I do believe that Fortnite is on its way out, but just because adults are no longer playing it in numbers anywhere near what they were at its peak doesn't mean it's not being played. Kids will eventually tire of it and move on. The issue here is if Epic will have another viral followup to Fortnite once its popularity fades. Or will they be a one-hit wonder?

Honestly, I see nothing wrong with Epic trying to milk its cash cow and make as much money as they can (while they can.) I do have a problem with them a) breaching contracts, b) trying to make this out to be some holy crusade, and c) saying they represent all developers.

Personally, I think that by the time this court case is finally decided (regardless of outcome) Fortnite will indeed be dead - or at least its popularity will have faded (and as such, its generated revenue) to a fraction of its peak - most likely because there will be some new hotness available. THAT is the part I don't think Epic really understands. I think they feel as though this gravy train will continue indefinitely, and that's just not how the gaming industry works.
 
I'm not aware of any restrictions. Do you know what those are? The app and the games within it require approval. That's it.
As far as I know all payments within the games must go through the App Store as well, which is of course the central issue there anyway. I didn’t really check all the details on it though.
 
Imagine if iOS allowed other browser engines like chromium. We need more competition when it comes to mobile web browsers. I mean, safari is good, but I’d love to have the ability to use a full fledged chrome or Firefox on my iPhone.

That’s why for phones I always use Android. I like iPadOS a lot in tablet use but for my phone the freedom of customization in Android is really nice. And Chrome and Firefox are extremely fast in Android, especially Chrome (no surprise). I really, really hope Apple allows us to install independent third-party browsers in the future.
 
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You genuinely think Apple is going to try to block this, of all things, from working in safari? Even though lots of paid services are available through a web browsers and have been for decades including video services and porn, you think THIS is going to be the thing that makes apple block a website across all their devices?
Im not saying they will. I’m saying the have the ability to do it since the have full control of all web browsers in iOS.
 
I’m sure Apple has written in a clause somewhere that this type of gaming is not permitted. I got my popcorn ready for this one 🍿🥤
I've got my popcorn ready to watch the government come in an explain what anti trust is to Apple.
 
Why would they? Apple has rules for apps published on the App Store. They have clearly stated that if you publish on the App Store, you follow their rules. And if you don't publish on the App Store, you don't have to follow their rules. This is just an ordinary website, so there is no requirement that you follow any Apple rules.
And Apple changes the rules whenever it suits them.
 
As far as I know all payments within the games must go through the App Store as well, which is of course the central issue there anyway. I didn’t really check all the details on it though.
Same applies to google. Any transactions in games from the play store and google will charge the same 30% fee. Of course you could side load an app on android and bypass it. And on ios you can use progressive web apps to bypass it as well. Which apple supports.
 
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Who thinks Apple will block this some how
they just forced the whole Flash thing because of this (free web games vs app store control)… let's see what happens with this XD

Flash works great in iOS right now, there are plenty of games based on Flash running quite great, you wont notice that,, so they banned the "free side of flash"
 
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they just forced the whole Flash thing because of this (free web games vs app store control)… let's see what happens with this XD

Flash works great in iOS right now, there are plenty of games based on Flash running quite great, you wont notice that,, so they banned the "free side of flash"
flash is a huge security risk. Everyone is dropping it. It has nothing to do with the app store or games.
 
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they just forced the whole Flash thing because of this (free web games vs app store control)… let's see what happens with this XD

Flash works great in iOS right now, there are plenty of games based on Flash running quite great, you wont notice that,, so they banned the "free side of flash"
They forced the flash issue because it was a both a resource hog and insecure piece of crap.
 
they just forced the whole Flash thing because of this (free web games vs app store control)… let's see what happens with this XD

Flash works great in iOS right now, there are plenty of games based on Flash running quite great, you wont notice that,, so they banned the "free side of flash"

That's exactly sole and the only reason why Flash was not allowed on iOS through web browser. People have no clue that most of the games on iOS App Store are actually made in Flash.
 
I personally think peoples concerns from both sides are over cooked.
All this cloud based gaming services that are looking at streaming via web browser probably won’t pan out to much on the iphone - small screens etc. now, iPads and Mac I could see a bigger market because of the much bigger screen space.
As a side note: I am pretty sure I read something years ago that Nvidia was the group that refused to add metal drivers to their card not Apple refusing to let them.
But, over all, I am looking forward to seeing more companies attempting to do more like this - as it will be what truly drives App Store (not just Apple) innovation (change)
 
Did you even read the article?

“NVIDIA is working alongside Epic Games on a touch-friendly version of Fortnite that will run on iOS devices through Safari, so Fortnite is not launching today, but it will be coming soon.”

this would be separate from the subscription based GeForce NOW service.

honestly Apple needs to get their heads out of their asses with this. No one wants to play some crappy Apple Arcade games. The gaming industry WILL find a way around it, so either get on board or get out of the way.
From a profits perspective why should Apple let them on the apps store if they aren’t willing to share revenue? Apple have nothing to gain in this scenario. They can either let them on the App Store and earn nothing or let the gaming industry build their own solution in safari and earn nothing.
 
Just tried and played one of my games using the Xbox controler ... it works fine .... I’m really surprised how great the experience is ! Good job NVidia !
I've been playing GeforceNow for years on my Nvidia Shield as it used to be free (I miss those days). It really is a fantastic service, and I was amazed at the almost zero perceptible lag.

I was sad when it became a paid service and many game studios pulled their games, especially Bethsaida.

I will still go back to this in the future, as its IMO the next best thing to a dedicated console. IOS and ipad gaming is a joke in comparison.

p.s: If anyone can try this with a MFI Steelseries Nimbus controller and let us know? Thats the only controller I have that works with my ipad.
 
Everytime launch the web app and select a game in Steam or Epic, I have to re-enter password even though I have remember checked off.
 
If you can run Stadia and Nvidia GeForce via browser, is there a chance that you can run an emulator via browser?
 
It is allowed on the app store. Each game in it needs to be approved. Unless it's your own local game streaming then it doesn't. Apple also happily suggested game streaming services can use the web browser and thus not have to pay any fees or follow any rules. They've even helped them to do it. So not greed.

Use the app store, follow the rules and pay the fees(same fees Microsoft charges as well) or go ahead and use the browser and we'll even help you do it!

I guess Netflix should release 50,000+ apps so each movie and tv episode has its own app on the Store as well......
 
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