BAD move. I won’t buy a car without CarPlay.
Seriously. Create the Voltec engine and now have zero PHEVs. What a company.Good reason why GM is where it is today. Nothing like a corporate mentality of giving the people what they want.
Everyone here is saying that no CarPlay is a dealbreaker - and I'm definitely in the same boat. But I seriously doubt that the number of Apple enthusiasts who absolutely demand CarPlay or no sale, and would otherwise seriously consider a GM vehicle isn't enough to make even a tiny blip in their sales. Even Apple fans who like and use CarPlay are likely to live with its absence if the vehicle is otherwise the one they want. No vehicle is perfect, and everyone has things about their car that annoys them. And I suspect the vast majority of iPhone users either don't know about CarPlay, or don't care enough to make a purchase decision based on it.
It's too bad because I love my Volt, and was thinking the Bolt EUV might be a contender whenever it's time to replace my other EV. But no way if it no longer has CarPlay by that time.
I find this kind of remark odd. There are so many other things that I'd put ahead of Carplay in my must haves that makes Phone integration pale into insignificance.
All I need from phone is ability to connect via bluetooth and take calls. In both of my vehicles my music is plugged in, (SD card on one and USB stick on the other).
Things like heated screen are WAAAAAAAAAYYYY more important than CarPlay.
Dealers also deal with a ton of CarPlay and AA questions
Hmm. Disagree that all automakers make horrible software.
I have an Audi. It has a near full dash display that looks like an approximation of Carplay 2.0.
It also has physical dials and buttons that can control the main display and physical controls on the steering wheel for the dash display.
I can operate both displays without ever taking my eyes from the road.
This is vastly, vastly superior (and safer) than trying to interact with Carplay via a touchscreen, especially with its idiotic horrible organization, brightness, forced siri dependence, etc.
Part of the reason for this decision (which I view as a disaster) is that at some point you will be paying for your updates. Just like you will be paying for the google services after I believe they said 8 years. They are trying to change you from your iPhone to your car for your navigation, and entertainment + travel data, all of which they are going to collect a fee for at some point. One thing that they have not yet covered is how do you listen to Apple Music? They are supplying Spotify. And they say that I can send music from my phone by Bluetooth. That’s an incredible safety issue if I am listening to either Apple Music, or Amazon music, both of which I use. Because then I would have to look at my iPhone to control which music I’m listening to. ( and happens to be illegal in my state) The more you understand this decision, the more it’s an absolute disaster.You can say no car is perfect and that all autos have something that might annoy you a little, but something I interact with each and everyday HAS to be right. Apple Carplay is that thing. I have rented a great number of cars over the years and have tried many different car manufacturers own infotainment systems, and well…they stink. I always feel like I am fighting the car to get it to do what I want. With Apple Carplay (and Android Auto for that matter), that all goes away. You get a system that you are familiar with from car to car, that other family members who might drive your car also are familiar with and it just works better.
I don’t want to be annoyed by my car. I have to have comfortable seats, cup holders that are accessible in positions that make sense. A place where I can put a trash bag. Good readable instrument cluster, a/c that works good, decent trunk space, decent reliability and yes, CarPlay.
Anything that adds friction to the experience and causes me hassles just is not going to work for me.
I find using a USB stick or SD card for music just as odd. But that’s the point. We use our cars in different ways and should have choices.
Okay, but why wouldn’t that situation still exist with whatever software Google makes for them?
I’m curious what the update situation looks like 5, 7 and 10 years out on that though. With Apple at least I know I am going to get updates. With car manufacturers, not so much.
Oh so they price the infotainment system as a deterrent. got it.Because you’re supposed to be driving the car and paying attention to that.
Too many pensions to let diePeople still buy GM… huh. Thought they already went under long ago, maybe they just want another nail in the coffin 😁
Yep last GM was 2005 Escalade - haven’t sniffed a GM vehicle since.I stopped buying gm cars when Gmac went bankrupt and ally refused to give me a loan even though they saw I had 15 years of credit with Gmac.
Went to kia and got a soul and never looked back.![]()
GM has been the #3 or at worst #4 OEM worldwide for many many years, but mostly #3, it only lost out to Stelantis (#4) last year by about 200K cars sold, it will most likely move back to #4 or maybe #3 in 2023.People still buy GM… huh. Thought they already went under long ago, maybe they just want another nail in the coffin 😁
Got my first chance to test out wireless CarPlay recently in a test vehicle. No matter how I tried, I could not get my iPhone to connect with my WiFi hot spot I had in the vehicle, because the phone insisted on connecting to the car via Wifi. Mind you, there was no cell signal where we were on my phone's carrier, but was on the hot spot (different carrier). The result was CarPlay navigation was completely useless, as was any other function of my phone that required Internet connectivity. In a second week of testing the same prototype vehicle, I did not set up CarPlay. I did use Bluetooth to play music through the car's systems. I'd rather have a built-in nav that works, than a CarPlay nav that fails.