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Apple can't add a free feature to older iPods without charging for it, according to the Sarbanes-Oxley Act. You HAVE to realize the revenue in the quarter you earned it. If you deliver new features a year or so down the line, you are completing transactions that you realized revenue for long ago. Big accounting no-no.

That's why the iPod Touch updates cost money.

Well 2.1 for the Touch is not costing money (if you have 2.0), and adding the Genius feature.
 
the genius stuff is crap the la crap

if your song isnt a itunes one its useless
and if you are having songs itunes knows of the genius playlist still suck balls

smaller ipod nano YEAH its thinner jippie Apple is more turning into a crying bitch on a weighing scale
and if you turn it the wheel is facing the wrong way wow what a design apple :eek:

smaller ipod classic because it must be thin who cares about if your music library cant be on the damn thing
the main point is that its thin yeah it must be thin :( arggg its just so stupid that its not even funny
first time i skipped thru a keynote of apple's

APPLE STOP BRINGING US THESE CRAP PRODUCTS WE DON"T NEED AND START LISTENING TO US
like i said if it isn't a nano touch apple is going backwards and not foward


we want
- macbooks and pro's at good prices
- bluray on the pro's
- mac tablets
- new mac mini's
- cinema displays at good prices
- movies on itunes for whole europe because there is more than just america you know :mad:

ok i'll stop here but i shall return :apple:
 
My initial results with Genius have been at least somewhat promising. I think the idea has great potential. Yes, you can just make a playlist yourself. But it's nice to be able to instantly generate a playlist of songs that you are in the mood for.

My fear was that it would be no more specific than randomly shuffling your genre of choice, but I think it is already better than that and will continue to get better.

Kudos to Apple for bringing it to the older Classics. This was not guaranteed, as other older iPods have been excluded from certain features that could have been added with a firmware update. Having the Genius feature right on the Classic seems particularly useful, since you will typically have tons of music to select from.

I hope you don't have to enable automatic syncing or anything like that for Genius to work on the iPod.
 
i wish they do this for the older ipods with video the 5th G

Screw Genius playlists, my 3G can't even keep track of a podcast play position!..

And yet it still works so damn well, I wish they continued firmware updates past 2004 :(
 
Well, for once Apple doesn't completely drop it's last line of items, probably because the iPod classic isn't really new. . just a new size.
For example, Flogging Molly. I love Flogging Molly, but I never cared too much for Dropkick Murphys.
Me too. I love Flogging Molly.:D
 
Well, I was tempted to get a new iPod....

I currently have an 8 gig nano (Black fattie), a 16 gb iPhone, and a 60 gig iPod 'photo'. My now wife bought it for me back when they were introduced and it came with the dock, cables, etc.... but it's getting a bit long in the tooth (Sometimes will just freeze, no video capabilities, etc.). Plus she took it over and it's scratched to hell.

I was a bit bummed they only dropped the size of the classics and added genius as a feature, but the price was right.

I was torn between a bit thicker 160 gb with no genius but better battery life or a thinner 120 gb with genius and the ability to use headphones which I'll probably never own.

But this little thread made me order a refurb 160gb Silver classic for $250....and a best skins ever to keep it scratch free.

The iPhone and nano are fine for 'on the go' but the larger size is great for having your entire library in your hand, not to mention I don't have to back it up with time machine anymore...
 
Glad some people like it but for me genius is worthless. I already have my own playlists made and nobody knows what music I like to hear better than I do. as far as rediscovering music goes if I had forgot about it I probably didn't like it that much anyway.
 
Has anyone heard if they're going to add the Genius feature to the iPod Mini too? :rolleyes:

Doubt it.

Speculation:

The iPod Classic and 3rd Gen iPod nano releases marked a new iPod OS with more graphical features. I'm guessing it's an update to this OS. The old iPods ran something else. I doubt they would invest time in rewriting/adding features to the old codebase.

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Glad some people like it but for me genius is worthless. I already have my own playlists made and nobody knows what music I like to hear better than I do. as far as rediscovering music goes if I had forgot about it I probably didn't like it that much anyway.

I agree. I'm my own musical genius, and don't need some other wanna-be genius trying to tell me what I want to hear.
 
I am still so upet that they actually decreased the capacity of a product for the very first time. The iPod classic!!!

Now I have commented on several of the other posts about this. They should have kept the slightly thicker 160GB and not released a 120. That is a big reduction.
I don't get this "reduction" talk; the iPod Classic 160 GB has been discontinued altogether and the 80 GB model has been bumped up to 120. If they were to discontinue the iMac 24", you wouldn't be referring to the iMac 20" as "the new, much smaller 24" iMac", right?

According to Steve almost nobody wanted the 160 GB brick, the vast majority went for the thinner 80 GB model. So they scrapped the brick and increased the capacity by 50% on the 80 GB without making it thicker. The Classic is a bit of a niche (and legacy) product these days. Apple is a business and their objective isn't to be nice, but to make money, and if a product is selling very poorly they'll scrap it. Simple as that.
 
Eh..at least those of us totally left in the dust get something. I like the Genius feature, it's fun.

Do you guys ever think we'll see a Touch or even a Nano that has at least 80GB?
 
Eh..at least those of us totally left in the dust get something. I like the Genius feature, it's fun.

Do you guys ever think we'll see a Touch or even a Nano that has at least 80GB?

Most certainly a Touch; that is unless Apple drops the Touch for something better.
 
the genius stuff is crap the la crap

if your song isnt a itunes one its useless
I don't have a single song from the iTunes store, but Genius identifies the songs just fine, as long as the tags are accurate. If I use a song by a Swedish band as the seed, Genius will pick predominantly Swedish music from the same (or adjacent) genre(s), even though there's no tag info about the country of origin, so there's clearly some intelligence there.

It has to be music offered on iTunes, yeah, but it's not like their selection is mainstream only. There's lots of obscure stuff on there.

I like Genius so far. I've never been too happy with simple random playback and I'm sick to death of my own playlists. To have a magic mixtape generator is actually quite interesting.

Eh..at least those of us totally left in the dust get something. I like the Genius feature, it's fun.

Do you guys ever think we'll see a Touch or even a Nano that has at least 80GB?
Maybe, but it will probably take a while. I don't think they will ever cram a hard drive into the iPod Touch, and certainly not the Nano, so it all comes down to increases in Flash memory capacity, and Apple can't do much about that except wait. Since Apple is hell bent on letting slimness go before capacity and features, hell will freeze over before they make an iPod Touch that's thicker than the previous one.
 
They did not decrease the capacity of the Classic. They eliminated the two platter 160GB and boosted the 80GB to 120GB. When a 160GB or larger capacity is available on a single platter, then they will update the Classic again. Also, they found that sales of the 160GB were at not nearly the level they expected, so they chose to eliminate two platter iPods.

TEG


LOL another person who must work for Apple PR

Highest capacity iPod before announcement: 160GB
Highest capactiy iPod after announcement: 120GB

The highest capacity iPod was inarguably reduced by 40GB to 120GB.

If the 160GB model had been more stable they would have sold more.
 
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