Is it just me, or is “CarPlay” a totally lame, outdated name for a car UI? It’s like using “iTunes” in 2023.
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GM Admits No Technical Reason CarPlay Couldn't Be in Future EVs
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So turn them off?
It's not about the quality of OEM's interface.
It's about having a consistent user experience in any car I drive. Whether mine, my wife's, or rentals. I travel a lot and use rentals a lot. All with CarPlay - I make sure of that.
It's about having the same commands, workflow, pinned locations, the same integration with Apple Music, Calendar event locations, contacts, podcasts, Shortcuts, Spotlight search, etc.
Even the best OEM interface won't replace that.
They would need to offer something truly great in exchange to make me give up this level of convenience. And I just can't see that happening.
It's about having a consistent user experience in any car I drive. Whether mine, my wife's, or rentals. I travel a lot and use rentals a lot. All with CarPlay - I make sure of that.
It's about having the same commands, workflow, pinned locations, the same integration with Apple Music, Calendar event locations, contacts, podcasts, Shortcuts, Spotlight search, etc.
Even the best OEM interface won't replace that.
They would need to offer something truly great in exchange to make me give up this level of convenience. And I just can't see that happening.
This is the EXACT reason why I do not want a Tesla, rather a Prius instead.
My Taycan integrates with CarPlay and indicates expected charge at destination as well as indicates charging station along route, in Apple Maps. It replaces the gas stations quick select button with EV chargers in the search function. So GM is just lying here about why. As noted in other posts it’s all about ads and subscriptions
All I can say is “New Coke”. Those who were around in the mid 1980’s will get it and know what’s coming next from GM.
Could be just you. I don't think any one cares what it's called as long as it works well.
For me, a car without CarPlay is a non-starter. CarPlay apis allow auto OEMs to build special apps that do vehicle specific functions, so they could very well do what they say they can't. I think this is a case of execs at GM thinking they can break off a piece of the pie they think they gave up, and they don't really they're not even in the same ballpark.
oh, it's in there. you really scared me, been saving all my life hoping one day I could get a corvette, but at this point, if they removed CarPlay, I'd just be like "screw it, I'll get a z4".
I think some of the best car manufacturers have largely caught up with UIs but the best manufacturers have higher prices than most can bear to pay. I really like the simple yet functional Audi MMI. Mercedes MBUX is great too but I've only test driven that one.
The most significant value add of CarPlay is that it provides free navigation and other service integrations. That is why GM is trying to ice it out of their new vehicles. GM wants you to pay for their navigation from Google or rope you into music subscription services gated through their store. They can't do that if they give an adequate interface to get those things you've already paid for on your phone.
At the prices a C8 Z06 goes for - like in that sticker - you could really get an M8 instead.
Insane.
Modern electronic visuals in autos are quite low-energy compared to the output of modern power plants. Modern battery management makes vehicle batteries much less problematic today than 30 years ago.
You must mean Google
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Umm, the point is that Apple does not do that. But Google's published primary business model is to collect user data for sale, and GM's new plan is co-developed with Google.
At least they’re being honest that the real reason it’s not being offered now is money.
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Telsa you need to relogin to things like spotify and apple music. And the reviews are lackluster at best. The key to CarPlay is that my digital life exists on my phone and I can access it seamlessly with CarPlay. Any infotainment system can't match that which is why customers demand CarPlay and Android Auto. Like I said before, Car manufacturers who don't support CarPlay will feel the heat as competition in the EV space increases. Is Tesla the worse infotainment system, no, but I can order a pizza from CarPlay. Can't do that with the native Tesla Infotainment.
As someone with a 2023 Chevrolet Silverado, I can honestly say that if my truck did not have CarPlay, I wouldn't have purchased it. As it is right now, I do not pay for the data plan for my truck, therefore the Google Maps (which is the only navigation built in to the system) just shows a blank screen. I can not use voice commands to send text messages, change the XM station, control the climate, etc. All disabled because I won't pay for a montly/yearly subscription. CarPlay is the only thing that makes it bearable as an entertainment system in my truck. Without it, it's just a big, useless screen.
I would never own a car without car play ever again. (Unless something better comes along).
For something better to come along, you typically have to have competition. I'm speaking as someone who has done aftermarket carplay, owned cars with carplay, and owned one without too (22' Tesla Y). Sadly my Tesla had far too many issues (mechanical and service that sadly seem common with the brand) but one thing I never missed really was carplay. I now drive a 2023 civic with wireless carplay.
The map on a Tesla (this was even before the even more powerful AMD processors they have now) was more fluid then any of the carplay maps I've ever tried. I could navigate to something on my phone, then just send it to the car, then I had my phone mounted for everything else. Regardless of how many things everyone likes about carplay, there are many issues and things apple could improve on - here are just a few that I've noticed:
- Weird typing restrictions on it are frustrating. They vary between manufacturers, and some don't even let you type while you're at a light. I just end up typing things on my phone.
- Siri is siri. My current car even turns down the AC while you talk to Siri, even then it can't really understand commands or dictate messages correctly, leading to lots of back and forth. I just end up doing things on my phone.
- You still cannot change the default map provider (that's more iOS, but extends to carplay). I know some people have great experience with apple maps, but it's led me to far too many empty lots ,incorrect locations, and stuck in too many traffic jams.
- Connection quality with carplay (particually wireless) varies among manufacturers. It's pretty well known with things like the VW iD4 but many manufacturers have random issues that plague carplay connections. Not saying this is the fault of apple, but it's seems to happen in quite a few vehicles.
- Being tethered to your phone comes with a few downsides - particularly when there are people who want to stay in the car and listen to your music or podcast, which makes you have to leave your phone. A great integrated car system could solve that.
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Again, Tesla's market share has declined. Their growth, at least in some markets, has also been less than the overall market. As far as (eventually) selling every car they make, that is what also happens with other cars. Tesla often builds more cars than they deliver and routinely maintains inventories of unsold cars at stores and factory lots in the U.S. and around the world.
It is not unusual for Tesla to have thousands of new cars in inventory in the U.S. (and outside the U.S.) waiting for buyers. Right now, many of those inventory cars have thousands in extra discounts on top of the drastically reduced prices from earlier this year. They also have new car "demos" with even greater discounts.
Perhaps you didn't understand what I wrote or didn’t bother to read it. Again, Tesla's U.S. market share has dropped from around 78% in 2018 to 62% in 2022. Globally, Tesla's market share is much smaller and has also declined.
Tesla is not "taking over" (as the other poster suggested) and has actually lost market share and will continue to do so, probably at a much more rapid pace.
But that sales growth is not necessarily unique to Tesla as the industry overall has been seeing growth. The reality is that Tesla's recent growth, at least in some markets, has been less than the overall market.
Their market share is down, they're not growing as much, they've had to resort to drastic price reductions and inventory discounts, etc.
I never said or was trying to suggest that Tesla was "failing." My original comment on this subject was a disagreement with another's post that Tesla was "taking over." Just because I don't agree that Tesla is "taking over" doesn't necessarily mean I think they are failing.