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GM Says It's Nixing CarPlay to Make Drivers Safer
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Cool, let's remove seatbelts next, for safety.
I hope the next person that gets in an accident with a GM due to texting sues the living crap out of them, could have been using CarPlay to next, but wasn't available.
I hope the next person that gets in an accident with a GM due to texting sues the living crap out of them, could have been using CarPlay to next, but wasn't available.
It's the end stage in a disruption cycle. Companies always make the most before the fall. Sorry, GM is toast.
Admittedly, you're right, I'm not really trying. But it's because I don't really buy into the merits of any discussion that centers around the implication that a vehicle manufacturer is going to listen to your conversations in your car via the car's microphone and internet connection, and that their privacy policy even suggests that you are consenting to it. Whether or not the language of the policy could be interpreted that way is for lawyers to decide. For people in the real world, that's not what it means, nor what is happening.
Yeah; I hope you are right. Thing is - I am not sure that you are right, or that we can assume all this, especially if Google is involved.
I'd like to say that issues that are seeing around privacy in modern vehicles are related to imprecise language and lack of experience for car manufacturers, so they did not define well what they record and share and when. And that it is all getting sorted quickly.
There are other possibilities, tho, and that is why I think that it is important to keep asking those questions.
"Trust but verify" definitely applies here.
Quite seriously, I agree. I do not do Google with its data collection business model. I have owned a Suburban and two Yukon XLs, but as long as GM wants to conspire with Google for my personal data I am gone from GMC.
Cars have our personal data and data has value. Google's primary business model is collecting our personal data for resale. GMC is conspiring with Google for a piece of that data resale action. Anything else GM says (e.g. "safety") is a flat lie.
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Go ahead, tell us that for people in the real world there is no way Google/GMC will not sell the info that some driver (not me, I am now done with GMC) happens to park in front of the XYZ store every day, or stop by the racetrack on Tuesdays or whatever.
Like you said:
...if Google is involved.
But if Google is involved we need hella more rigor than "Trust but verify." If Google is involved it is Distrust and look for where they are using the latest tech to secretly mine your personal data. It is Google's primary business model.
No doubt Google will claim that what they do is not "secret" because they allegedly tell us what they are doing - - intentionally obfuscated, buried in literally thousands of lines of legalese privacy policy, enough to cause any reasonable person to decide TL;DR. Google represents commerce at its worst.
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That seems like a huge lie GM is in serious financial trouble they're probably just figuring out ways to lay more people off it won't make anything more safe basically if people aren't using CarPlay they're actually holding their phones and Google certainly doesn't have the proper answers to make any kind of an interface that works right the other problem with Google is is that they have no privacy rights for the users they'll take any data that you have and they'll scrub it and sell it
Earlier this year, General Motors (GM) announced plans to phase out Apple's CarPlay and Android Auto in its future electric vehicles, with the company instead relying on an infotainment system co-developed with Google. This has not been a popular decision with iPhone users, and today, GM provided some additional insight into the decision in a discussion with MotorTrend.
According to Tim Babbitt, GM's head of product for infotainment, GM has driver safety in mind. CarPlay and Android Auto can have issues like bad connections, slow response times, compatibility issues, and connectivity problems, leading drivers to be distracted from the road with smartphone troubleshooting.
Babbitt claims that drivers will be less likely to pick up their phones with a built-in system that does not rely on a service like CarPlay, leading to improved safety on the road. GM does not have any data to prove that an infotainment system is less distracting than CarPlay, nor has it done any testing.
Babbitt cited J.D. Power data suggesting issues with CarPlay and Android Auto are common complaints from vehicle owners, with customers often blaming the vehicle manufacturer rather than Apple or Google.
The infotainment system that GM plans to adopt instead of CarPlay will have integrated Google apps, including Google Maps and Google Assistant for voice commands, rather than a third-party navigation system. As MotorTrend points out, eliminating CarPlay will provide GM with more control over driver data, and it will allow GM to offer subscription services and apps that allow for purchases of food, gas, and other sundries.
Back in August, GM said that choosing not to offer CarPlay would give it more information about charge state information to assist with navigation routing and provide a better user experience.
CarPlay will be eliminated in electric vehicles under the Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, and GMC brands. Combustion vehicles from GM will continue to support CarPlay until they are phased out in favor of an all-electric lineup in 2035.
Update: In a statement to MacRumors, GM said the following:
Article Link: GM Says It's Nixing CarPlay to Make Drivers Safer
That dude is a clown and I will never again buy a GM vehicle because of their stupidity.
GM’s junk cars have been off my radar for decades but this is the final nail in the coffin. GM just makes one bad decision after a mother. Shame our tax dollars bailed them out.
Car makers, if you are reading this... I will not purchase a vehicle that doesn't have Apple CarPlay. If you don't offer it, I will never buy your car. It really is that simple.
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Your new infotainment screen.. "Can we talk about your extended warranty"
They're not wrong about CarPlay and Android Auto. I've driven several different models of vehicles with CarPlay and each one is slightly different. The wireless versions had the most issues with connection issues. I had a few issues with the wired connections too. Each time it went out, I had to pull over to try to troubleshoot the issue. Most times a simple reset would work. Other times it just stopped working entirely. I've had more issues than not with CarPlay. That being said, I doubt GM's solution would have fewer issues, if not the same issues.
Non-crappy electric cars are so expensive that car companies should be falling over themselves to support integration with the devices we all use.
If I'm going to pay $50k to 60k+ for a new base model EV, it had better support my phone, whether it is iOS or Android. GM really did not think this through.
If I'm going to pay $50k to 60k+ for a new base model EV, it had better support my phone, whether it is iOS or Android. GM really did not think this through.
Not at all an attempt to add subscription services like Toyota and remote unlock or BMW and Heated Seats.
This is about Safety. Pushing a GM touchscreen button is WAY safer than a CarPlay Touchscreen button. The corners are more rounded so you don't prick your finger on them.