Gmail push in native mail app?

[rbf1138]

I switched off push on the gmail app and went back to push in native mail.app for my gmail.

It's a work account so its part of gmail exchange and google work. I have had no trouble receiving push messages today. I have received them at the same time my desktop mail client gets them. Often faster than the gmail web interface itself!

I've given up on the gmail app for my personal gmail. I really miss push to the native app on non google apps/work accounts but i'm prepared to accept a 15 min interval. The experience with native mail is much faster and better formatted for good readability.

They will fix the gmail apps ugly scaling but its never really got any faster for me, even with background app refresh. I'm sick of that silly colour loading circle.

So you've also had problems of it not refreshing/pushing in the Gmail app, even though it's supposed to?

I'm attempting to get used to using the Gmail app with my new phone, but I feel like pushes and refreshes aren't working fast or sometimes even at all with the Gmail app.

 

[blhoward2]

The gmail app is downright horrible. They lost me at not being able to chaneg the email alert tone (or at least you couldn't the last time I tried).

 

[rbf1138]

Gah. So it seems like I should give NuevaSync more of a chance and let it forward my Gmail to the native app with Push.

 

[fivedots]

They will fix the gmail apps ugly scaling but its never really got any faster for me, even with background app refresh. I'm sick of that silly colour loading circle.

And the connection failure message (why are you asking me if I want to try again instead of just doing it? Why would I say no?). And the inbox not being up-to-date when you open the app. And the 'Load rest of message' prompt (just do it!).

The Gmail experience on iOS is so intentionally crippled. It drives me nuts. I can handle the 15 minute delay (but it's 2014, come on) but I need the improved search that their app offers. Gmail calendar invites also don't work properly with the native calendar app when you're not setup through exchange, so you need their app to accept those as well.

Mailbox is nice but the search sucks. So that would leave me using three email clients for a single account: Mail to send, Mailbox for notifications and day-to-day email, and Gmail for search and calendar invites.

It shouldn't be this complicated. Google, if you want me to use your stupid app, at least make it an awesome experience.

 

[DomC]

The gmail app is downright horrible. They lost me at not being able to chaneg the email alert tone (or at least you couldn't the last time I tried).

Don't quite understand why they limit the sound. I've sent feedback many times. My wife and I look at each other when new mail arrives never knowing which device it's for!
Also, why can't users turn off new mail previews on the lock screen? I want to know I have new mail without any other info. This is a privacy issue with what people can see on my locked phone. Does someone picking up my phone need to see that my Amazon order shipped? Or the first words of what my doctor is emailing me?

 

[Ultimacn]

Gmail app

Must admit I've used Gmail app for ages and I get notifications at the same time and sometimes slightly sooner than I get notified in Chrome. Yes scaling sucks but the ease of adding attachments etc outweighs my need for the native email client. Just my thoughts...

 

[rbf1138]

This all has me thinking I need to start using a different email provider. Any recommendations on what would be better that would allow for perfect Push in the native iOS mail app, along with a good web interface for when I'm on my computer?

 

[fins831]

I just started using the gmail App because fetch in ios8 seems bugged for me, I set it for 15 min and 2 hrs later I got the email.

Gmail app is awful, but in terms of usability, it works. The badge works (unlike clooudmagic) and the Mailbox app inbox zero function pisses me off (even after reading the mail, if I don't archive it or delete it, it says its still unread, and the badge says 1...I like reading an email, and then exiting app, and oh look badge went form 1 to 0, not stay same, that pissed me off.)...side note - if anyone knows how to change this, so when I read an email in mailbox the badge goes down instead of archiving, I would appreciate it cause then I would use Mailbox.

So now push with gmail app, its clunky, scales wrong, sound sucks, but right now the push works, it doesnt eat battery and the notifications and badge works for me so far.

 

[blhoward2]

This all has me thinking I need to start using a different email provider. Any recommendations on what would be better that would allow for perfect Push in the native iOS mail app, along with a good web interface for when I'm on my computer?

Last year I signed up for like four different ones and even bought a domain name to try a hosting provider. Sadly, none of them can come close to Gmail's spam filtering and automatic rules. You don't notice it until you switch and suddenly get 30 spam messages a day.

 

[rbf1138]

I just started using the gmail App because fetch in ios8 seems bugged for me, I set it for 15 min and 2 hrs later I got the email.

Gmail app is awful, but in terms of usability, it works. The badge works (unlike clooudmagic) and the mailbox inbox zero function pisses me off (even after reading the mail, if I don't archive it or delete it, it says its still unread, and the badge says 1...I like reading an email, and then exiting app, and oh look badge went form 1 to 0, not stay same, that pissed me off.)

So now push with gmail app, its clunky, scales wrong, sound sucks, but right now the push works, it doesnt eat battery and the notifications and badge works for me so far.

You sound pretty much exactly like me. Tried all those other apps but none worked out for me and the Gmail app, despite it's flaws, seems like the best compromise. I'm going to try that NuevaSync again, though, maybe that'll make the native app useful again.

 

[fivedots]

Last year I signed up for like four different ones and even bought a domain name to try a hosting provider. Sadly, none of them can come close to Gmail's spam filtering and automatic rules. You don't notice it until you switch and suddenly get 30 spam messages a day.

If you're willing to pay, I feel that Google Work (or whatever it's called now) is the best choice.

 

[rbf1138]

Last year I signed up for like four different ones and even bought a domain name to try a hosting provider. Sadly, none of them can come close to Gmail's spam filtering and automatic rules. You don't notice it until you switch and suddenly get 30 spam messages a day.

Well damn. So your ultimate solution for all of this proved to be NuevaSync.

 

[fins831]

Anyone know how to get the badge icon for Mailbox to lower after reading an email and not moving the email or deleting it. I hate how if I have 1 email, and the badge says 1, and I read it, it stays 1 until I archive or delete the email. Is there a fix t this?

 

[Stuke00]

Anyone know how to get the badge icon for Mailbox to lower after reading an email and not moving the email or deleting it. I hate how if I have 1 email, and the badge says 1, and I read it, it stays 1 until I archive or delete the email. Is there a fix t this?

Sounds like a bug, I don't have this issue. Report it

 

[fivedots]

Anyone know how to get the badge icon for Mailbox to lower after reading an email and not moving the email or deleting it. I hate how if I have 1 email, and the badge says 1, and I read it, it stays 1 until I archive or delete the email. Is there a fix t this?

There's a setting for it. By default it shows inbox count because Mailbox is designed around helping you reach Inbox Zero. The idea being if it's still in the inbox, you still need to deal with it.

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Sounds like a bug, I don't have this issue. Report it

Not a bug, default behavior. Can be changed in Mailbox's settings.

 

[liteshow]

Real Conversations View in Gmail App

Bouncing between the built-in mail app and the gmail app, I am still preferring the gmail app because of 1 single feature: True Conversations view.

The built-in mail app has the option to turn on conversations view, but the sent items themselves are not included in the conversation. That makes it very difficult to follow a email conversation. Gmail app has conversations view just like the desktop.

Now if they just improve the gmail app with options like text sizes and notification sounds, that would be great.

 

[C DM]

Bouncing between the built-in mail app and the gmail app, I am still preferring the gmail app because of 1 single feature: True Conversations view.

The built-in mail app has the option to turn on conversations view, but the sent items themselves are not included in the conversation. That makes it very difficult to follow a email conversation. Gmail app has conversations view just like the desktop.

Now if they just improve the gmail app with options like text sizes and notification sounds, that would be great.

The built in app provides threaded view which is somewhat different than conversation view.

 

[MacFinnley]

I switched to the Mailbox App.

 

[fivedots]

Bouncing between the built-in mail app and the gmail app, I am still preferring the gmail app because of 1 single feature: True Conversations view.

The built-in mail app has the option to turn on conversations view, but the sent items themselves are not included in the conversation. That makes it very difficult to follow a email conversation. Gmail app has conversations view just like the desktop.

Now if they just improve the gmail app with options like text sizes and notification sounds, that would be great.

Now if only the Gmail app opened to the right spot in a conversation when you try getting there from a notification...

 

[liteshow]

The built in app provides threaded view which is somewhat different than conversation view.

Yes you are correct - it is a threaded view and not conversation view.

The threaded view just feels like an incomplete conversation view IMO.

 

[rbf1138]

Now if only the Gmail app opened to the right spot in a conversation when you try getting there from a notification...

Ugh, seriously.

Why can't/wont Google offer that $50 a year thing for regular Gmail users so they can use Exchange like Apps customers. So annoying.

 

[fivedots]

Ugh, seriously.

Why can't/wont Google offer that $50 a year thing for regular Gmail users so they can use Exchange like Apps customers. So annoying.

Or simply build a better app. If my Mailbox can do it, I'm sure Google can. What happened to all the Sparrow talent they acqui-hired? Stop insisting on your own design aesthetic and build a fast, native app that's a pleasure to use. There is nothing stopping them.

 

[babbit]

Also, why can't users turn off new mail previews on the lock screen? I want to know I have new mail without any other info. This is a privacy issue with what people can see on my locked phone. Does someone picking up my phone need to see that my Amazon order shipped? Or the first words of what my doctor is emailing me?

I know what you mean. My friend freaked out when I left to use the restroom, and an email popped up from a doctor with the the words "cancer report" in the title. Turns out it was just a generic newletter email from my health insurance talking about cancer screening.

 

[haxrnick]

Ugh, seriously.

Why can't/wont Google offer that $50 a year thing for regular Gmail users so they can use Exchange like Apps customers. So annoying.

Pay 30 and use nuevasync. Been using it for a year on 2 accounts without 1 issue.

 

[rbf1138]

Pay 30 and use nuevasync. Been using it for a year on 2 accounts without 1 issue.

I've been doing the free trial but I'm not impressed with it. The push is definitely not instantaneous like it used to be, the Gmail app still beats it by more than a minute sometimes, if not longer.