Going back to Snow Leopard, Lion worst OS experience ever

[Macshroomer]

I totally agree. Being a professional user and developer, I'm not in any way impressed with Lion. In my opinion it's the worst piece of crap ever released from Apple.

Another pro user here, yep, total waste of my time and money, a bunch of graphic toys and a TON of issues. Like, maybe I am an idiot, but how do I get the file count to show on all windows and not just each one by toggling show status in view?

Total crap made for the masses that like to spend all day playing on a computer instead of pros who have a life, want to get the work done then get the hell off of the thing so we can spend time in the real world...

 

[parapup]

For the first friggin time - my audio now stops working after 8 hrs of up time - Haven't had this problem even on Linux for crying out loud! Lion is bunch of crap.



Don't believe me - check this out -

Sound assertion "0 == fAudioEngineArray" failed in AppleHDADriver at line 3045 goto Exit
Sound assertion "0 == fAudioEngineArray" failed in AppleHDADriver at line 3045 goto Exit
Sound assertion "0 == fAudioEngineArray" failed in AppleHDADriver at line 3045 goto Exit
Sound assertion "0 == fAudioEngineArray" failed in AppleHDADriver at line 3045 goto Exit

 

[tom5304]

I emailed Apple's iTunes store support today to ask for a refund of my $29 for Lion. Wish me luck...

 

[scottsjack]

Another pro user here, yep, total waste of my time and money, a bunch of graphic toys and a TON of issues. Like, maybe I am an idiot, but how do I get the file count to show on all windows and not just each one by toggling show status in view?

Total crap made for the masses that like to spend all day playing on a computer instead of pros who have a life, want to get the work done then get the hell off of the thing so we can spend time in the real world...

There was a time when real computer users worked on Windows machines and high school girls fiddled on goofy looking, translucent iMacs. God, I hope we're not headed forward into the past.

 

[soulreaver99]

Instead of starting another thread... here's a new issue on my CLEAN install of Lion...

Nonstop spinning beachball and freezing at the login screen when booting up. WTF?! Never had this issue on any release of OSX. Anyone else have this problem?

I let the first few incidences slide because I thought maybe it was just me or it was a whatever but now it's become somewhat chronic and happened 3 times today...

Thanks!

 

[iDave]

I have to agree with the OP, Lion pretty much bites. A Mac user since 1989, I find very little to like, and lots to dislike about Lion. There's too much eye candy, and my Macs seem much slower now.

 

[tigres]

21% done on my restore back in time to SL. Fingers crossed, who ever thought getting excited going back to a previous OS version. Not I, that's for sure; but Lion for me was a dead stick-

 

[parapup]

21% done on my restore back in time to SL. Fingers crossed, who ever thought getting excited going back to a previous OS version. Not I, that's for sure; but Lion for me was a dead stick-

You and me both - I am running to SL faster than you though 67% in restore to 10.6.8

I cant use my USB devices in Lion and cant listen to music. Enough lameness to warrant restore.

I am not waiting until 10.7.2 so if your refund is processed I will also ask for one.

 

[thermodynamic]

It just must be a train wreck. The high number of sales and mostly good reviews tell a different story. My lion experience has been great. Sure there are a few bugs, but I expected to see them.

(Mostly) good reviews would tell the story. A high number of sales is meaningless, except for telling the fact many copies were sold. Anything based on that is mere inference. 30 million people could watch a TV show, but that doesn't mean all of them loved it.

Bugs always exist, in every x.0 release of every piece of software. That became the norm around, oh, 1981... when did Microsoft first foist MS-DOS onto the public, again?

 

[thermodynamic]

There was a time when real computer users worked on Windows machines and high school girls fiddled on goofy looking, translucent iMacs. God, I hope we're not headed forward into the past.

"Worked" meaning reconfiguring or optimizing the thing, or as in doing actual work? (Been a DOS/Win 3.x/Win95 --> Win7 user for 20 years... with Mac, Amiga, Atari, BeOS, and other competing computing platforms as well... heading back into the past would be nice because back then we had real competition and competitiveness... Microsoft's marketing and their predatory actions helped dismantle competition... I mean, competition is said to be a good thing and all...)

 

[Gemütlichkeit]

In your infinite wisdom, do you count non working Mail with IMAP just an issue? Or how about disconnecting Network connections? Or how about not being able to connect to network shared work folder(s)? Just curious if I should just wait to use my work mail on my mac until the issues are resolved.

I'll just use my iPhone for the next ___ months until I can use mail again; my customers will understand.

I don't use IMAP so I can't vouch for that. However I haven't seen either of your other issues. Everything works fine with network connections as well as s hared network folders from my GF's mac and my desktop PC

 

[tigres]

You and me both - I am running to SL faster than you though 67% in restore to 10.6.8

I cant use my USB devices in Lion and cant listen to music. Enough lameness to warrant restore.

I am not waiting until 10.7.2 so if your refund is processed I will also ask for one.

Well you'll be there before me that's fir sure. I forgot to check my refund process, I am sure they will credit me, they said so in an email.

I really hope they get this sorted in the future updates; I really tried to make it work; then I just got pissed and decided enough was enough. Go back to what works, and really well at that.

I hope Steve does not have to go on stage and say Lion was not their finest hour; but it was my worst OS experience out of Apple ever.

 

[Macshroomer]

My admin password is not working after restore, any ideas...?....I am getting so fed up with this...

 

[oBMTo]

Can't stand Lion, switching back to Windows 7.

 

[theluggage]

I don't use IMAP so I can't vouch for that. However I haven't seen either of your other issues.

IMAP works for me (tm). That doesn't mean it works for everybody.

That's the thing with these issues: its not a case of Apple shipping an OS in which things Just Don't Work*, these are issues cropping up with people's particular set-ups. Maybe its their particular IMAP (not the best-defined internet standard ever) server. Maybe its something they have installed in the past interfering. Maybe its some quirk of their home network setup. These things happen. That's why the old adage "Never buy version 1.0 of anything" is still true. Seriously: never upgrade to a new OS the week it comes out unless you plan on spending a weekend firefighting.

Apple does have one big problem, though: At this stage in a Windows roll-out, most PC vendors would still be offering the old OS as an option. However, only Apple make Macs, and they seem to have gone for a clean sweep, replacing everything with Lion. If someone at work breaks their Mac tomorrow, I need to get them a new one with 10.6 on because, although I've got Lion on my personal home machine, it isn't going anywhere near work for at least 6 months. Heck, I've still got people to wean off Office 2004 - and at least one person still uses Eudora =:-O So, where is the option in Apple's online store to order a machine with 10.6?

* I'm talking about regular Lion here. Lion Server is half baked, I hit at least one feature that just won't/can't work (name-based virtual hosts), the documentation is pathetic and its blindingly obvious that it is not an equivalent replacement for SL Server.

 

[Phil A.]

Like, maybe I am an idiot, but how do I get the file count to show on all windows and not just each one by toggling show status in view?

Not sure what you mean here - are you saying that the status bar doesn't show on all windows automatically once you've turned it on?

 

[blackburn]

"Worked" meaning reconfiguring or optimizing the thing, or as in doing actual work? (Been a DOS/Win 3.x/Win95 --> Win7 user for 20 years... with Mac, Amiga, Atari, BeOS, and other competing computing platforms as well... heading back into the past would be nice because back then we had real competition and competitiveness... Microsoft's marketing and their predatory actions helped dismantle competition... I mean, competition is said to be a good thing and all...)

Man I don't know why but I do miss BeOS. I still play with Haiku but is in alpha stages.

 

[senc01a]

I agree 100% with everything you said.
Lion is half-baked; I'd love to upgrade, but I can't.
10.7.0 makes my second display useless, and it freezes my MBP.
It's a shame that those who are lucky enough to not experience any problems blame us here, implying that we are doing something wrong, when it's clearly Apple's fault.
And it doesn't really matter if there's a hardware problem underneath that surfaces under Lion but not under SL or Windows7, or if it's a bug in Lion itself.
Either way, I am screwed as a customer.

"It just works."
Yeah I wish it did.

Oh really? Well, I gotta say that it doesn't freeze my MacbookPro and my second display works like a charm. Does that mean that it might actually be fully baked? I bet you 100 bucks that if you remove all the cheesy useless add-on-plugings that you found on that chinesse website, it will work perfect.
Have you considered that?
.....

 

[tigres]

Oh really? Well, I gotta say that it doesn't freeze my MacbookPro and my second display works like a charm. Does that mean that it might actually be fully baked? I bet you 100 bucks that if you remove all the cheesy useless add-on-plugings that you found on that chinesse website, it will work perfect.
Have you considered that?
.....

Lemme guess, It's all about you.

 

[blackburn]

Oh really? Well, I gotta say that it doesn't freeze my MacbookPro and my second display works like a charm. Does that mean that it might actually be fully baked? I bet you 100 bucks that if you remove all the cheesy useless add-on-plugings that you found on that chinesse website, it will work perfect.
Have you considered that?
.....

I still don't get it, why do people who have issues with lion get attacked. I did a clean install and I've experienced many of the issues that people are talking about like freezing, and general slowness.

 

[mobilehavoc]

I still don't get it, why do people who have issues with lion get attacked. I did a clean install and I've experienced many of the issues that people are talking about like freezing, and general slowness.

The one good thing about Lion is it's shown the moderate Apple users the crazy Apple zealots/fanboys that everyone has had to deal with for years.

It's never Apple's fault it's always yours somehow...don't you get it?

 

[blackburn]

The one good thing about Lion is it's shown the moderate Apple users the crazy Apple zealots/fanboys that everyone has had to deal with for years.

It's never Apple's fault it's always yours somehow...don't you get it?

Yeah looks like there are many blinded fanboys. Some people have to do real work, not just browse facebook and email other people. Maybe I'm holding it wrong.

 

[jackc]

Total crap made for the masses that like to spend all day playing on a computer instead of pros who have a life, want to get the work done then get the hell off of the thing so we can spend time in the real world...

I'm not blaming the people complaining, but why be an early upgrader then? Unless you just bought a new machine and don't really have a choice without downgrading.

I'm waiting until some of the bugs are ironed out.

 

[tigres]

Well I solved all my problems with just upgrading to SL 10.6.8. Even had a couple of new updates for me when I did.

SL is by far the best OS I have ever used. Solved all my problems in 45 minutes time. I was actually pretty shocked on how miserable my overall experience was w/Lion, but- that is my own fault for jumping in the water without feeling the temp first.

On the other hand, most of me thinks that borked this OS in a bad bad way.

 

[KPOM]

Well I solved all my problems with just upgrading to SL 10.6.8. Even had a couple of new updates for me when I did.

SL is by far the best OS I have ever used. Solved all my problems in 45 minutes time. I was actually pretty shocked on how miserable my overall experience was w/Lion, but- that is my own fault for jumping in the water without feeling the temp first.

On the other hand, most of me thinks that borked this OS in a bad bad way.

They released it a few months too early because they committed to a July release and wanted to get the MacBook Airs and Minis out (and didn't want to release them with Snow Leopard).

I think Apple will eventually fix the bugs, but it will be a bumpier ride than normal for an Apple release.