You have to try it out to actually see if it is a right purchase for you, if not then that's it. I know I'm going to be first in line to buy one on day one but that's just me.
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I wasn't terribly fond of the Watch's user interface (and, note, there are a host of clock UIs available, for when you just want to know the time at a glance).
But then I tried the UI simulator at http://9to5mac.com/2015/01/07/apple-watch-demo/ ...and I'm here to tell you, it's brilliant.
The take-away: let's not diss this thing until we see it.
But then I tried the UI simulator at http://9to5mac.com/2015/01/07/apple-watch-demo/ ...and I'm here to tell you, it's brilliant.
The take-away: let's not diss this thing until we see it.
The people saying the back is ugly are the ones who don't realize that you MUST use a case otherwise the protruding camera makes your phone wobble on the table. I haven't seen the back of my phone since taking it out of the package!
I really wish the set up from Tim Cook on this would have been a bit different. I think marketing definitely has some issues in this regard. The fact that Apple announced the watch alongside BIGGER iPhones but didn't in any way connect the two baffles me. To me the watch is a perfect companion to a bigger phone that I might not want to always be pulling out of my pocket or handbag. For me the biggest selling point of Watch is convenience. I think it's a huge selling point that Apple would do well to focus on more.
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Reading through this thread (and a few others) has finally showed me exactly why I am apparently the target market for the 
Watch. I currently wear a watch daily, it's a decent looking watch, but it was also $15 at Target. I don't buy watches as fashion accessories (as a primary function), I buy them to tell the time by looking at my wrist. Finding one that looks nice is a bonus. I would however love the additional utility that an Watch provides, and that's what I'd be willing to pay $350+ for (my current hope is that the SS version is under $700). I know that $15 to $700 is a HUGE price jump, but for me, the additional use will be well worth it.
So, I doubt I'd go back to wearing my $15 watch, because it's a $15 watch. And I already wear a watch daily, so I doubt I would just stop wearing a watch altogether.
Watch. I currently wear a watch daily, it's a decent looking watch, but it was also $15 at Target. I don't buy watches as fashion accessories (as a primary function), I buy them to tell the time by looking at my wrist. Finding one that looks nice is a bonus. I would however love the additional utility that an Watch provides, and that's what I'd be willing to pay $350+ for (my current hope is that the SS version is under $700). I know that $15 to $700 is a HUGE price jump, but for me, the additional use will be well worth it.So, I doubt I'd go back to wearing my $15 watch, because it's a $15 watch. And I already wear a watch daily, so I doubt I would just stop wearing a watch altogether.
Reading through this thread (and a few others) has finally showed me exactly why I am apparently the target market for the
So, I doubt I'd go back to wearing my $15 watch, because it's a $15 watch. And I already wear a watch daily, so I doubt I would just stop wearing a watch altogether.
I feel like I am another target market - I don't currently wear a watch because no current watch provides enough functionality for me to make it worth the hassle. If all it does is tell time, well, I can look at one of the several clocks that are always around me for that (phone, computer, car, microwave, etc). The Apple Watch is the first device that I feel gives me enough extra functionality that I actually want it strapped on my wrist all the time.
I don't care if it is as successful as the iPhone as long as it is successful enough that I can keep buying them for the foreseeable future.
I too think the watch will tank. I on the other hand will buy one though simply just as an investment so it can sit with all of my other sealed apple products
If you're buying it as an investment get the gold one, then at least it has a good chance of going up in value for the gold content even if the watch is never a collectible.
Actually, before anyone does what you suggest.
For the reason you gave.
We really need to see the gold content 1st.
And how much, let's call it "Fashion Mark-Up" the edition has over it's real value.
If they make all 3 models, Aluminium, Stainless and Gold, and put the same profit mark-up, over and above manufacturing costs and materials, then YES, your idea is great.
If however, they drift off into the fantasy pricing world some have suggested here, and there is, let's say $1200 of actual gold, plus say $300 of other parts to it. But for fashion reasons, rather than charge, let's say $1500 ish, the charge something like $3000 - $5000 as some have wildly speculated, then you are never going to recoup that in gold value as there is simply not that much gold raw value in the product, even as scrap.
However of course a boxed "fatty" in say 20 or 30 years will I'm sure have a good collectors value.
Though I suspect there may be a few people doing this, so there could be a few 100 or few 1000 still boxed and floating around for collectors.
As always, it's the things that were not made in large numbers, or things people used and never thought to collect that end up being the really valuable items
Even if they do give a huge markup over the value of the gold with that one you know the value won't go to zero. Especially if it isn't a huge success I don't see it as ever having a huge value to collectors, how much does an original apple newton in the box go for if it comes up for sale?
God, another tedious watch bashing thread! Answer- go to android or some other forum with your poison
Sorry Defender 2010, my opinion is no more "poison" than yours. It's an opinion. Why would I go to Android when I only own Apple products? I simply won't own the Watch.
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Probably reverting to no watch, for people who still wear watches, especially high end ones I don't see the
I do think that there will be a decently large initial uptake, and Apple is smart enough that I expect them to limit supply enough that stores start to run out and they get the headlines about how popular it is that it is selling out. But long run I expect it to be similar to the
This, exactly. The first weekend will break some sort of record. Apple will find something, whether it be fastest selling, best selling, something. But after that, I think sales will be ok, but lower than what many expect. Apple TV seems about right.
The market is already a subset of a subset. The usefulness of the features is questionable. The price is high for being an accessory for another device. The next gen may be different.
Like you said, that's to you.
I dont think that would've been a good idea because if you're gonna assume that drawing a connection between bigger iphones and
watches is gonna work then you also have to also assume that people will feel they shouldn't get a Iphone 6 plus unless they plan to get an apple watch or people with a regular iphone 6 shouldn't even consider an apple watch because the "problem" that it solves is only there with the bigger iphone. If they bring attention at how cumbersome the Iphone 6 Plus is through this "connection" marketing then it's gonna hurt Iphone 6 Plus sales more than it helps Apple Watch sales and being that the Iphones at any level are more than likely gonna be a more profitable sector for Apple than watches it's not wise to go doing that.
Just show them all of the features and let the consumer imagine a custom and personal reason why they need an Apple Watch. I feel like people have good enough imaginations to do this. Dont emphasize and potentially narrow it down to one scenario and make others feel excluded, and dont make consumers feel like the Iphone 6 plus is too cumbersome to use without an Apple watch especially when the Iphone 6 plus goes on sale 6 months before the watch does.
Typical thoughtless nay-saying. Not every Apple Watch feature is targeted to every demographic. The "heart beat" is a gimmick and since you are an adult, as am I, have no use for it. But I can see how it might be a "thing" for teen girls. It could also develop into a sort of typeless messaging system where the user could draw an icon or shape to discretely or conveniently send a message to someone else. Draw a "B" and the other party gets a text "b there soon."
Personally, I'm interested in the watch. Not sold on it, as there are others I'm considering too like the new Garmin Fenix 3. I'm keeping an open mind until it's officially launched with all the specs, features, limitations, and 3rd party support. I love the concept of having a phone monitor on my hand so I don't have to drag out my phone everytime it rings, dings, or tri-tones.
It's not going be a huge hit out of the gate, no. But I don't think Apple has set the expectation its a blockbuster either. In fact, they call it an "accessory." Apple has a lot of educating to do and a lot of PR. But its certainly up to that task.
Wrong. I have though about it. It's a silly gimmick. Silly idea. Just listening to the way Ivy was "selling" the idea during the Watch video wrap up was enough. I was squirming.
Hard to say if if watch will be a bust or not IMO. I am certain that the launch will have it's surge of *must have the device first* clientele who will not blink at the price, and brave camping out to be first in line to get it upon it's launch.
The question in my mind is whether the watch will develop into a worldwide adoption phenomena - or not, as the marketing strategy of these days seems a little fractured to me in some ways - ie: bigger and thinner is better and lighter (iphone 6 plus), smaller and fatter is incredible and functional -( watch.) combine bigger is better and lighter with smaller incredible and fatter equates to what exactly, I am not really sure.
It is hard for me to imagine that the iphone 6 crowd who would never return to what they deem is a tiny interface with the 4S or 5S would be overjoyed to deal will an even tinier digital watch interface, which would save them from using the 6 plus as it is unwieldy now?... confusing to me.
Target demographics I imagine would be the younger generation who do not bother wearing watches ?..doesn't make sense... unless wants to propel the next generation of watch wearers (only watches of course) , remains to be seen if that is successful.
Then there is the watch wearing crowd, many who wear one for work related necessity (yes it is faster to glance at a watch rather than pulling out your iphone and swiping to see the time) who ususally buy watches that are affordable and functional, not sure that crowd set would enjoy having to charge their watches everyday just to have it linked to their phones and pay the asking price for such a device then have to pay for applecare which does not cover accidents..
Then there is the watch aficionado and or collector who choose watches are the epitome of mechanical design and craftsmanship, who some would probably buy thewatch as a curios watch related object, but most IMO would not.
Lastly I would ask..is it serviceable, is it glued? watch maintenance is always a necessity, from digital batteries to mechanical overhauls.. While digital batteries are cheap and can be serviced anywhere, mechanical maintenance is more expensive but is justifiable as mechanicals are clear investments in historical and timeless (pun intended) examples of enduring craftmanship excellence.
So I question the strategy of maintenance as well - Applecare for a watch? which demographic will not mind paying for it and when Applecare runs out or the watch accidentally breaks...then what? If the tech of the watch is obsolete after 3 years and Apple stops maintaining or supporting the device after 5 years, then what..paper weight?
I guess the answer would be to *upgrade* and re-sell, but with non serviceable items, re-sale in the long run will not be good IMO...especially a watch who's servicing days are numbered from the beginning...much like most of Apple's devices lately.
So hit or run.. not sure.. but not a *hit* for me. being a mechanical loving fiend.
watch will be a bust or not IMO. I am certain that the launch will have it's surge of *must have the device first* clientele who will not blink at the price, and brave camping out to be first in line to get it upon it's launch.The question in my mind is whether the
watch will develop into a worldwide adoption phenomena - or not, as the marketing strategy of these days seems a little fractured to me in some ways - ie: bigger and thinner is better and lighter (iphone 6 plus), smaller and fatter is incredible and functional -( watch.) combine bigger is better and lighter with smaller incredible and fatter equates to what exactly, I am not really sure.It is hard for me to imagine that the iphone 6 crowd who would never return to what they deem is a tiny interface with the 4S or 5S would be overjoyed to deal will an even tinier digital watch interface, which would save them from using the 6 plus as it is unwieldy now?... confusing to me.
Target demographics I imagine would be the younger generation who do not bother wearing watches ?..doesn't make sense... unless
wants to propel the next generation of watch wearers (only watches of course) , remains to be seen if that is successful.Then there is the watch wearing crowd, many who wear one for work related necessity (yes it is faster to glance at a watch rather than pulling out your iphone and swiping to see the time) who ususally buy watches that are affordable and functional, not sure that crowd set would enjoy having to charge their watches everyday just to have it linked to their phones and pay the asking price for such a device then have to pay for applecare which does not cover accidents..
Then there is the watch aficionado and or collector who choose watches are the epitome of mechanical design and craftsmanship, who some would probably buy the
watch as a curios watch related object, but most IMO would not.Lastly I would ask..is it serviceable, is it glued? watch maintenance is always a necessity, from digital batteries to mechanical overhauls.. While digital batteries are cheap and can be serviced anywhere, mechanical maintenance is more expensive but is justifiable as mechanicals are clear investments in historical and timeless (pun intended) examples of enduring craftmanship excellence.
So I question the strategy of maintenance as well - Applecare for a watch? which demographic will not mind paying for it and when Applecare runs out or the watch accidentally breaks...then what? If the tech of the watch is obsolete after 3 years and Apple stops maintaining or supporting the device after 5 years, then what..paper weight?
I guess the answer would be to *upgrade* and re-sell, but with non serviceable items, re-sale in the long run will not be good IMO...especially a watch who's servicing days are numbered from the beginning...much like most of Apple's devices lately.
So hit or run.. not sure.. but not a *hit* for me. being a mechanical loving fiend.
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This 100%
If I could go out for the day, or pop down town to do shopping, perhaps in summer, T-Shirt and Shorts, and just wear a watch, and not have to carry a large phone, they yes 100% great.
Ok, it would be a bit harder to use, and you are not going to do much web browsing or writing long documents, but you could get by.
Then 100% yes, just wear the watch, leave the phone at home, and off you go for the morning/day, no worries, you know you won't miss anything, and nothing else to have to carry or worry about.
But the "current" Apple watch won't be that product.
One day, after a few years of upgrades and new models, hopefully it will be, but needing to have the Phone with you, and the Apple watch, pretty much just being a remote screen for the iPhone, which also does a few minor things itself, for me, if the biggest negative, as it makes you ask why bother.
For the small minority into sports, runners, etc, then sure, I get that bit. lift you arm up to view some stats as opposed to getting the phone out.
But to be 100% honest, I'd suggest there are far better brands out there now, with far better screens to be viewed in bright daylight, than the Apple Watch.
Apple are trying to make 1 item do too much.
Jack of all trades, master of none springs to mind.
That's a lot of assumptions for a product that hasn't even seen the light of day yet, (to the public). On what basis do you suggest there are far better brands with far better screens to be viewed in daylight, out there now? I'd be really curious to see if there's anything to back up these claims.
Any backlit colour screen, like we have on phones, tablets, and some smartwatches is really just a gimmick to someone seriously into sports.
Yes, they look lovely, very pretty, and technically amazing what you can do these days.
But when you are running, swimming, cycling, rock climbing and many many other sports, you want super clear accurate, easy to see information in daylight, and todays very pretty colour screens are not the tool for that.
It's why book readers like Kindles, and why other serious sports devices tend to look more like this:
https://quantimo.do/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Garmin-Forerunner-310XT-GPS-Heart-Rate-Monitor.jpeg
They are tools to perform the job, not to look pretty and have gimmicy functions.
This type of thing may look horrid to those who want an Apple watch.
But they are tools to do a job.
If I'm panting for breath, sun beating down on me, sweat pouring off me, I want to lift my arm and see large, easy to read clear data instantly.
Not tap on a screen, fiddle with a dial, angling the watch out the sunlight.