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Some of my summer clothes have no pockets, or the pockets are too small to hold a phone.

And yes, right now what I do is take a purse -- but if the Watch were an independent device, then I wouldn't have to bring a purse just to go for a walk in the park.

Sure, it's not such a big deal to grab a purse, but I'm just saying an independent Watch could make things a bit more convenient. After all, cell phones themselves are just convenience, too. I mean, what was wrong with waiting until you got home, or found a pay phone to make a phone call? People got by with doing that for decades before the cell phone was invented.
Women always have a place to put a phone and a bit of cash. It's called your bra. :D
 
It's the law.

At least in my country. You need ID, or an adult carrying an ID to identify you.

Jeez. Glad I don't like in a place like that.

In the UK we don't need to carry anything on us at all, be it walking, cycling or driving a car.

If a police office stopped us for something, he could ask us to bring some documents to the police station within an amount of time.

We don't even have an ID as such
 
Jeez. Glad I don't like in a place like that.

In the UK we don't need to carry anything on us at all, be it walking, cycling or driving a car.

If a police office stopped us for something, he could ask us to bring some documents to the police station within an amount of time.

We don't even have an ID as such

It's no different from Portugal, you just need to walk with an ID.
 
Exactly. That is what I would like to see for the future.
I appreciate of course there would be limitations given the size of the device, and I would live with those when I chose to only have the watch with me. But for notifications, reading text messages, writing a short reply and being able to take of give some short phone calls if I needed (and that would be rare) I would want a future watch to be able to do it.
Limited yes, I accept it, but yes, that's what I would like.

...and you will get that....but not for many years (my uneducated guess is 7-10 years before we see something truely usable).

But stating something is worthless now because you HAVE to use your phone to make it work properly is kind of ridiculous.

I do believe that the "watch" WILL become a standalone option for making calls/texts, but not until they figure out the battery and cell/wifi signal issues that limit it to currently being paired with another device.
 
:apple: watch is going to sell like hotcakes.

It's a new platform for Apple's developers to target, and it's going to be the developers who really sell this device.

Right now it's like a new console is coming out and we're not very impressed with the launch titles.

Not to say I'm excited to be charging my watch every night, but I'm going to have a very elegant wooden charging base on my nightstand. It's ridiculous how I've already got this all planned out :D
 
90% of what Apple sells is always a big hit. It's all about the marketing and quality products. After hearing about the iPhone 6/6+ and the Apple Watch, I wanted neither of them. Just READING about them, the specs, especially the phones was so underwhelming, I was leaning towards the LG G3. Then I watched the Apple Keynote on Youtube, and I was drooling over the iPhone 6+ and the Apple Watch. Those guys can sell ice cubes to Eskimos (no offense to any Eskimos on the board). I wound up getting an iPhone 6+, and I love it, it's amazing. It just works, because it's a high quality product, and the operating system is perfectly seamless.

Same thing with the Apple Watch, it will fly off the shelves, regardless of the astronomical price. I'm not getting one for a while, but it is a wonderfully high quality looking piece of tech.
 
90% of what Apple sells is always a big hit. It's all about the marketing and quality products. After hearing about the iPhone 6/6+ and the Apple Watch, I wanted neither of them. Just READING about them, the specs, especially the phones was so underwhelming, I was leaning towards the LG G3. Then I watched the Apple Keynote on Youtube, and I was drooling over the iPhone 6+ and the Apple Watch. Those guys can sell ice cubes to Eskimos (no offense to any Eskimos on the board). I wound up getting an iPhone 6+, and I love it, it's amazing. It just works, because it's a high quality product, and the operating system is perfectly seamless.

Same thing with the Apple Watch, it will fly off the shelves, regardless of the astronomical price. I'm not getting one for a while, but it is a wonderfully high quality looking piece of tech.

Indeed, and that is their biggest trick and works so well for them.

Most people, general people don't really know what they want, or how they will use it, they just know things are about and feel they want to be part of it.
It's far far easier for the typical consumer to go along with something that's already been put into place by those in power.

Like a religion really. What's easier. To look around the earth and on your own come up with your own ideas and opinions of how things work, how they were made, why we are here.
Or is it simply easier to find something already out there others have created that you feel seems to fit in with you as a person and going along with that. meeting like minded people, finding out more, getting involved more.

It's easy and it's obvious.

I hate and despise the fact Apple tells me what screen to use, what memory to use, what SSD to use, how much RAM I can have, what shape the case is, What graphics card I'm allowed to pick, so I want a sound card or not, etc etc.

I hate that. When I am old, retired, I may give in, and just let them do it for me, but whilst I have a brain in my head, I'd like to select my own items that best suit my needs.

That's not to say I don't like Apple.
I just want them to make the machine that they won't make for me.
An open machine, like a PC that I can select the parts I want from, and then run OSX on it.

but they won't, and to be 100% honest I don't think they are able do as they don't have the skills Microsoft have to make their OS run on 10 million different hardware permutations. Hell they can't even get it bug free for their machine they control 100% :D

In my workplace. I feel alone.... Yes, I know it's sad.

What do you mean alone you ask..

I don't mean physically alone, I don't mean alone in that everyone has Macs.
Only 1 single person in the entire workplace has a Mac at home, everyone else has PC's, and all but 2 have Android/Nokia phones.

I mean alone as in, not ONE OTHER PERSON has any real interest in computers :(

All they want to talk about is Trash newspaper stories, Football, Vular Jokes, and work related things.

But then, other than the odd new person here and there, al of whom left, and I can count the number on one hand. No one else has computers or computing as any interest.

They are just a thing to allow them to do a job.
As far as I know, all out of date on old hardware.

And I would class these as typical people.

Not in a million years will they be looking at reviews and deciding which motherboard and RAM they should go for.

This, as I say is where Apple SHOULD clean up.

The only reason they don't and they won't is they are priced too high for these people.

Windows 8.1 laptops or desktops at around half the price of anything from Apple is perfectly fine for them.

And I have to admit, a cheap laptop today is a million times better than one of the same price even just 5 years ago.

That's what I see day to day.

If Apple DID produce some lower priced items, which they could, they would capture a MASSIVE amount of people.
 
Wrong. I have though about it. It's a silly gimmick. Silly idea. Just listening to the way Ivy was "selling" the idea during the Watch video wrap up was enough. I was squirming.

Again, you are getting caught up in one feature when the utility of the entire product still has not been announced and the finished product reviewed. Drawing an opinion on incomplete information is closed minded thoughtlessness by definition.
 
1. Yes, it's going to use Wifi, and will probability work through your home Wifi.

It's extremely unlikely to have Wifi as that would quickly drain the battery. It'll probably all go over LE Bluetooth.


Settings. Enable or disable Airplane mode, Bluetooth, and Do Not Disturb. Also turn mute on or off, or ping your iPhone to determine its location.
 

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It's extremely unlikely to have Wifi as that would quickly drain the battery. It'll probably all go over LE Bluetooth.

It will have WiFi but it is only for a peer to peer Airplay type BT/WiFi combination connection.

Apple said:
...Apple Watch also features Wi-Fi 802.11b/g and Bluetooth 4.0 to pair seamlessly with your iPhone....
 
I think it doesn't need to do anything the phone doesn't already do. If the Watch can do everything the iPhone does independently of the phone, that would be ideal, and I think that is where the Watch is headed, eventually. But even the Watch as it is now, dependent as it is on the phone, will be useful to me. For instance, I'm sitting in my living room now, in my pajamas, which has no pockets. My phone is in the bedroom because I have no way to carry it. If I had the Watch, I could be wearing the Watch, and be connected to my phone through it.

My understanding is the iWatch will have some fitness tracking capabilities. So if people are buying the watch for the convenience of not having to reach into their pockets to pull out their iPhone or not having to get up and walk into another room, then that will have a negative impact on their calorie burn-count for the day. The two purchase justifications; fitness and convenience, are in conflict.
 
My understanding is the iWatch will have some fitness tracking capabilities. So if people are buying the watch for the convenience of not having to reach into their pockets to pull out their iPhone or not having to get up and walk into another room, then that will have a negative impact on their calorie burn-count for the day. The two purchase justifications; fitness and convenience, are in conflict.

Actually, fitness tracking on the watch is a function I'm looking forward to. I tend to leave my iPhone at my desk while I walk around the house or office. The watch will help keep a more complete record of the number of steps I take. I might even start walking up and down the stairs of my building as a fitness measure if I knew I could just do it whenever I felt like it without having to first locate my iPhone so I can keep a record of my steps.
 
19 hours use or 2 1/2 hrs with heavy use?

useful watch, this. Not even a day's charge!
 
19 hours use or 2 1/2 hrs with heavy use?

useful watch, this. Not even a day's charge!

Yes, it is a day of charge and for a smartwatc that is not a garbage like most of the smartwatches out there, I am fine with that (improvement are expected as the technology advances) Now, 19 hours means that of I take it of the charge and have it on my wrist at 6AM, under a moderate use it will need to be charged again at 12:00 midnight (after 19 hours). I don't mind sleeping with the watch but I don't mind at all taking it off my wrist when I seelp to charge it. Have done this for years and years with my phones.

Now as a thread user, I'm sure you would love to see this gone bust but I have the feeling that wish is not gonna be fulfilled for ya :D
 
Let's not forget.

We're not sure how much of this "Battery Life Expectancy"
Is with the Apple Watch being a device in it's own right, or with it being just a remote terminal screen for work the iPhone is actually doing and just passing the items for the screen of the watch to display.

For the most part, it's looking like the Apple watch is designed to be a dumb terminal for the iPhone, passing data to the iPhone, getting results back and displaying them on it's tiny screen.

Do we have any numbers yet on batter life which separate this issue?

Naturally if the watch is REALLY doing the work, and not just passing it to the iPhone you need to have with you, to make the Watch Work fully, the watch battery life will be better.

I really hope this product will survive long enough, and not bomb so bad, Apple give up. So they continue to improve it, year after year, to make it into a device that actually will end up being great in the longer term.

And that goes for all brands, not just Apple.
 
I really hope this product will survive long enough, and not bomb so bad, Apple give up. So they continue to improve it, year after year, to make it into a device that actually will end up being great in the longer term.

After how much marketing Apple has already put behind it as long as they sell any of them they won't abandon it for at least two or three generations even if it does sell poorly.
 
After hearing about the iPhone 6/6+ and the Apple Watch, I wanted neither of them. Just READING about them, the specs, especially the phones was so underwhelming, I was leaning towards the LG G3. Then I watched the Apple Keynote on Youtube, and I was drooling over the iPhone 6+ and the Apple Watch. Those guys can sell ice cubes to Eskimos (no offense to any Eskimos on the board). I wound up getting an iPhone 6+, and I love it, it's amazing. It just works, because it's a high quality product, and the operating system is perfectly seamless.

WTH! Rarely I meet someone who made a U-turn like that in purchasing.
 
Yes, it is a day of charge and for a smartwatc that is not a garbage like most of the smartwatches out there, I am fine with that (improvement are expected as the technology advances) Now, 19 hours means that of I take it of the charge and have it on my wrist at 6AM, under a moderate use it will need to be charged again at 12:00 midnight (after 19 hours). I don't mind sleeping with the watch but I don't mind at all taking it off my wrist when I seelp to charge it. Have done this for years and years with my phones.

Now as a thread user, I'm sure you would love to see this gone bust but I have the feeling that wish is not gonna be fulfilled for ya :D


On the contrary. I, as an Apple user, and fan, truly hope the Watch succeeds. And I do think it'll sell up a storm initially. Then taper off sharply. Like perhaps, Apple TV.

All of the Apple products I use, phones, iPads, TV, iMac and MacBook air, are truly functional devices in their market space. The watch, as a watch, with a now also reported 5 hours usage on normal use, just does not seem functional in its market space. It's a watch. Though it's fairly obvious to me it really is just going to be a fashionable health accessory.
 
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