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Im stilll annoyed they aren't including USB charging adapter. Like yeah, we have a lot of USB-A's lying around, but I dont have any chargers with USBC, ill have to buy one /eyeroll.
Sure, and how many USB-A to Lightning cables do you have lying around?

I get the argument that there are more USB-A chargers already in people's homes and thus a USB-A to Lightning cable would have resulted in a larger percentage of buyers having the right charging brick already. But on the other hand, there also could be more people that are happy to get a USB-C to Lightning cable (than those preferring to get a USB-A version) because they already have enough USB-A to Lightning cables but actually don't have enough (if any) USB-C to Lightning cables. Not least because they are on a path to where their USB-A charging ports are getting slowly replaced by USB-C charging ports (eg, when buying a new computer that has USB-C ports or buying devices that come with USB-C charging bricks).
 
That was such a general of all general overview of the iphone even for network tv for non techies.

But that blue is nice. maybe because of all the super bright lights, it looks lighter.

I like that didn't include a charger brick and earphones. Seriously who uses the earphones and with zillions of charger bricks, what a waste.

I'm sure it's also to push the wireless charger accessory.
 
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Honestly I don't mind the lack of a charger at all--the high-power USB-C charger in the 11 was nice and I actually use it once it a while, but let's face it, USB charge ports are everywhere now.

Leaving aside the 5 USB bricks sitting in a drawer, and the one high-power USB-C brick that came with my 11 that's plugged in, and the USB-C brick that my MBP is plugged into, and all the ports on computers... I still have 4 charge ports on wall outlets, 2 in the car, 1 on my home theater system, and 4 ports on my couch.

Sure, it's silly, but in an era where you can literally buy a couch with USB ports, you can legitimately get away without putting another charger in the box of umpteen million phones for the sake of the small number of people who don't have one. We've basically reached the point where a USB charge port is the equivalent of a wall outlet--it's just a thing you can assume people have, and if they don't they'll have to buy some to participate in the modern world.

The headphones are a bit more of an issue (and less of an environmental one), but unlike the charger you certainly don't need them to use the device.

I guess in the grand scheme of things I look at it like this: Apple sells something like 175-200 million iPhones a year. 98% of the people who buy those already have chargers around. The handful who don't can certainly afford to buy either a nice one for $15-20 or a cheap 4-pack for like $12 if they can afford to buy a $600-1100 phone. And Apple saves roughly 100-150 million unnecessary chargers from being built and promptly tossed into drawers, which is a nontrivial ecological benefit. I'm less able to speculate on the ratio for headphones, but it's probably still in the tens of millions at least--certainly the last several pairs of mine have gone right into a drawer without even unwrapping them.

All that said, "Well, there's so much in the phones already." is a garbage way to try and introduce this from a sales standpoint. You don't try to couch it in terms of value, you say right off--even if it's a lie--that you don't want to put tens of millions of chargers and headphones in drawers when people already have a bunch of both laying around, so you're doing it for ecological reasons.

If I'd been pricing them, I might have even bumped the list price down by like $10 or something--call it $989 instead of $999--to try and sell that it's an ecological decision rather than a nickel-and-dime one.
 
I hope you know what you're getting from Alliexpress. An improperly made charging adapter can ruin your whole day. The Apple one is $19 but only 20w so good for phones but not for a laptop
You can buy same form Amazon for 35$ if that is a problem.
 
Im stilll annoyed they aren't including USB charging adapter. Like yeah, we have a lot of USB-A's lying around, but I dont have any chargers with USBC, ill have to buy one /eyeroll.

Yeah exactly they make a big point about the environment but ship with a usb c to lightning cable ! How many have a usb c plug lying around .
 
Nice ad, Apple, really pushing hard to sell environmentalism as a disguise for your profit loss with the addition of 5G antenna and possibly Dolby license fees.
 
Me too but we all know the average consumer has no clue who MKBHD is. Everyone in the USA knows what Good Morning America is. Apple looks at this as free advertising.

I agree, although they definitely paid for that spot. Lots of money. Nothing free about it.
 
Dropping the price of the phone or dropping the price that the accessories are sold for separately would have also been the right thing to do.

Apple claim they are trying to help the environment, how's about helping out your loyal fans during these very difficult times?
 
This was the worst tech review I've seen in my entire life, not even exaggerating. They HAVE the iPhone 12 in their hands, but show stock pictures most of time, and not even show the iPhone 12 to the camera directly. She just kept it her closed hand, pointing the side of the phone to the screen while waving it around, and then most of the time lowering it below the on screen ads, so that we couldn't even see the iPhone 12 at all. What a joke!! No wonder I never watch the news on TV, I can't even imagine how badly they are presenting more subtle topics...
 
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No earphone or charger in the box? Now I need to spend $20 - $50 to buy a new charger? Apple didnt even reduce the price. Shocking !!!

 
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Would have preferred a video from MKBHD, not gonna lie.
Worst hands on ever.

Sad that the 12 pro blue isn't navy blue which i wanted so i'll be going with gold.
They could have done so much more with this feature rather than just waving the phone around and talking about night selfies 🤦‍♂️
Lame. But at least they showed the two blue colors side by side. Non pro blue is nicer.
That was a waste of 5 min to start my day.

What you all need to understand is that a tech segment on a morning show like GMA is not intended for techies. Think of the least tech savvy person you know and that's basically who they're talking to. It's just, "Look at the new iPhone! It's fast and it has pretty colours! Ooh, ahh!" It's for the people who wouldn't have even known there's a new iPhone otherwise, not people like us who can already tell you how many pixels are in the display and how many cores the GPU has, etc.
 
Wireless charging also isn’t exactly environment-friendly, given its poor power efficiency. I’m not saying it shouldn’t exist, just that there’s some cognitive dissonance with Apple regarding the environment topic.
 
Does Apple truly believe we believe that they are doing this primarily for the planet? They are removing two components from one of their top selling product families which saves them resources from manufacturing to distribution. Are consumers seeing any of those savings, or is feeling good about the planet good enough?
 
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Or we can just believe Apple because it does have an environmental impact regardless of what people in the forums imagine their motive was. I mean it's not like Apple has a long track record of making environmentally positive decisions. I don't expect this will bother Apple customers as much as it bothers people on forums. As an Apple customer I'm happy that they're not including extra environmental waste with their products. Now we just have to wait for Android phones to catch up.
It can be both. But you have to see through the marketing PR spin.

This new iPhone 12 has a higher end cost to us ($130 more than iPhone 11), saves apple money on power bricks, saves apple money on headphones, saves apple money on packaging materials, saves apple money on shipping (they can now fit two times as many iPhones in a shipping container from China.)

Yes, there is an environmental impact benefit, but the true benefit is for apple shareholders.
 
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