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Yay? Android on everything is getting old. Android on your refrigerator, your toilet, your sink, now your lightbulbs can be controlled with your phone. Is anybody tired of this yet?

I've heard of Android on a fridge, but I've never seen it myself. The only things I've ever seen it on are smartphones and tablets.

So no, I'm no more tired of it than I am iOS.
 
I'm not sure this product is "much better" than Nest (a thermostat that plays music?), but it is another approach to home automation. We're only starting to see the possibilities, which is why Google was so desperate to buy in.

read up on them and see what they annouced at CES to work with it. Blows Nest thermostat out of the water I think. Either way Apple should by them.
 
I've heard of Android on a fridge, but I've never seen it myself. The only things I've ever seen it on are smartphones and tablets.

So no, I'm no more tired of it than I am iOS.

You've never seen it on the Samsung refrigerators? They showed me all that stuff on my initiation tour. We can talk about it in the company cafeteria at lunch tomorrow. I'll see what I can do. :D:D
 
Maybe Apple didn't want Fadell back? According to John Gruber Fadell had little, if anything, to do with the iPhone/iPod touch and was never offered the job Steve hired Papermaster for. There must have been a reason Fadell never offered the job of overseeing iPhone/iPod hardware engineering.

http://daringfireball.net/2008/11/executive_scuttlebutt
 
I've always been quirked about how the NEST requires a friggin' connection to the cloud (company servers) to do 99% of its job. I mean, seriously, we live in an interconnected world. It's not hard to punch a goddam port in the firewall and connect to your stuff back at home remotely.

Now that Google is buying them, I can only imagine what they're going to do with the data the NEST units are sending back to them.

-SC
 
read up on them and see what they annouced at CES to work with it. Blows Nest thermostat out of the water I think. Either way Apple should by them.

Took a little effort to find this:

http://www.achrnews.com/articles/12...nergy-unveils-new-smart-sensor-wins-ces-award

...since they didn't see fit to put it on their own web site (hmm), but if this is what you are talking about, I am not very impressed. The room-by-room thermostat concept is basically broken by definition.
 
I was planning on buying into Nest when we bought a new house, but I think I'll pass now. Google, and their complete lack of respect for privacy, leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I'm sure something just as good and not-Google will come along to fill the void, and I'll snap that up.
 
"welcome into the Google family" *shudder*
that is one dysfunctional family if I've ever seen one...

Eh, it's not that bad. They all get along pretty well together, and things tend to go along smoothly enough. The only problem is everyone is always going "try the pie, try the pie, you'll love the pie, so you gotta try it, comeon, comeon, try it, TRY IT" over and over and over again, until you're absolutely sick of hearing even the merest mention of the word pie.

...and by pie, I mean Google+.
 
As a Nest owner I am unhappy about this. Because I know that Google wouldn't pay this much if they didn't have some rather sinister plans. But then again, I have to say that Nest probably let Google look inside of it's product development pipeline. Did anyone know the Protect was coming out before Nest announced it...?

well, i hope for google's sake that nest has a master plan to connect the entire house with gadgets from the door bell via smoke detectors to the telephone and the security cam. would be cool to have all of this networked. privacy goes out the window of course.

i wanted a good solution for a security camera but everything on the market right now has some flaw (or is ridiculously expensive and over the top for normal boring people)
 
Apple should've scooped up that one.

I feel like saying, "na na na na na" to Apple because they have missed the boat on so many occasions it's laughable. Steve probably would've bought them up ages ago. And don't say he wouldn't have because you'd just be guessing like me.

I still think Apple should by Twitter.

But 3 billion? Wow. Now that's a smart former Apple employee.
 
I'm surprised Google had to pay that much, considering they were already investors.

Google Ventures has funded Nest at least a couple of times now.


I bet there is some hocus pocus financial dipsy do with this funnelling money back into Google Ventures while also taking a charge on it somewhere else for tax credits. Google launders some cash stuck in some tax shelter rabbit hole into Google Ventures.

the other deal too is that get some "favor chips" with other venture funds they are pumping money into with the buyout also.

So the 'buy' is more than just for the company. Because cash flow wise there is very little chance there are going to see this pay back any time soon. Or even years from now. Some of it yes, but hell no there was no one else in the bidding process at those prices.
 
I feel like saying, "na na na na na" to Apple because they have missed the boat on so many occasions it's laughable. Steve probably would've bought them up ages ago. And don't say he wouldn't have because you'd just be guessing like me.

I still think Apple should by Twitter.

So the same Steve Jobs that dramatically simplified Apple's product line (to a grid of 4 products at one point) would have snapped up Nest and Twitter? :confused:

Anyway cnet has an interesting theory about why Apple didn't buy Nest: a)Nest is more about design than groundbreaking technology b)Apple doesn't typically buy companies with end products (hardware) and c)Apple is very secretive and a big purchase like this would tip their hand.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57617164-37/why-apple-didnt-buy-nest/
 
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So the same Steve Jobs that dramatically simplified Apple's product line (to a grid of 4 products at one point) would have snapped up Nest and Twitter? :confused:
Twitter isn't really a product. It's similar to other companies Apple has bought.

Yes, that's right, my guess is he would like Nest.
 
Google leaders smoke obviously pretty strong stuff.

It's definitely overvalued, but Nest enables Google -- especially once they link your Nest account with G+ -- to know when you're in your house, when you aren't, how active you are, how you prefer your temperature setting. That's valuable profile information to add to the insane amount of knowledge they already have about you to sell to advertisers. Insane and creepy. But that's Google. So for them, this is another piece of the puzzle in trying to find out everything they possibly can about people. It gives them physical access inside your home.
 
Less of Google

We need less of google in our lives, not more. Guess I won't be buying any Nest products...
 
I have a feeling it may have had to do something with a lot of the Apple talent that was in the company. I wouldn't be surprised to see Tony end up either at Google in a much different capacity, or out on his own again shortly. This can be said for others as well. We shall see. This is a pretty big carrot they dangled.

Actually the latter outcome. Flush with tons of personal start-up money they have probably uncorked several of those ex-Apple folks to spawn off more companies that will suck more folks out of Apple. But also willing to bet that Google Ventures would have finger/piece-of-the-action in more than a few of those so Google could once again rinse some profits though those.


If Google does leave them largely independent subsidiary then Tony might stay. All that have done is stip the drama of having to do more rounds of funding and can just settle down on product. But $3B as a acquihire is a bit more than ridiculous. I highly doubt they are trying to fill some internal position inside of Google.
 
Google today is like Microsoft 20 years ago, throwing lots of money around without any apparent plan. It didn't do anything for Microsoft and I doubt it will do much better for Google.

I highly doubt that Google has no plan for Nest. As I said in a previous post, I think Google will likely look to tie the Nest product line into Google Now pretty quickly. Of course, in order to get the Google Now benefits, one would have to voluntarily opt in and connect their Nest with their Google account.

Imagine. . .

"Ok, Google, set the temperature in my house to 70 degrees when the temperature outside goes below freezing" from your iOS or Android device halfway around the world or when you're working late at the office. Or, "Ok, Google, turn the heat up to 73" when you're in bed and don't want to get up to turn the thermostat up.

The average person is going to love to do that -- especially if they bring the price down to ~$99 for the thermostat. In return, Google is going to suck up a ton more data on home climate control and do God knows what with it. I have no idea what they want to do with that kind of data; but I assure you that they do have a plan.
 
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Twitter isn't really a product. It's similar to other companies Apple has bought.

Yes, that's right, my guess is he would like Nest.

When has Apple ever acquired hardware companies that already had an end product being sold to consumers? What exactly does Nest have that Apple needs? Is their IP (or engineers) worth $3B?
 
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