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Google CEO Eric Schmidt Resigns From Apple Board of Directors

gilkisson said:
Not a bash at all. Don't be so sensitive:)

It was merely my $.02. Apple is known for innovation, Google is trying mightily. Microsoft? Have you heard of Vista? Win7 isn't "out there" yet, whether or not it will take the horrible taste of Vista out of everyone's mouth has yet to be seen.

As for Bing... meh. You may have it, in all it's glory, I give it to you. There, you are the winner. Yay you.
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The hype about Bing is BS. Microsoft has actually lost overall market share since they introduced it taking into account MSN, Windows Live, etc. Bing is like everything else they do, Zune, Vista, it is just a draining product that they are using to try to force the takeover of a market in order to preserve lock in of their monopoly. After a while of it failing they will rebrand it and introduce the same crap as something "new" only to have it fail again. Which is this instance of Bing is already the case.

Now, onto the real business. I predict very soon we will hear an announcement that Tim Cook will be given a seat on the board! :)
 
Scooterman1 said:
The ONLY way that Apple will be REAL competition to Microsoft, is for Apple to make OS X run on, and available to PC's (All PC's). Then, Microsoft would be more than a little worried. But Apple wants to make money on it's expensive hardware.
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I think too many people are still unaware that Microsoft doesn't manufacture hardware. That's Dell's/HP's job. MS just makes software.
 
gilkisson said:
Wouldn't it be delicious irony if the next version of Windows to emerge were to be based on a *nix variant? A complete re-write, from a kernel up. They do have the basic tech to do it, MS owns at least one unix-like already.

In any event, this won't be a sudden thing. IBM went from Big Blue to "blue who?" over the course of decades. It'll take at least that long for the world to acknowledge MS ain't the biggest dog in the yard anymore.

Still, it'll be a fun show.
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Yeah I think that *nix is called Xenix or QNX...but it's been so long since I saw it last that I could be wrong. As I recall it was used for robotics and still wasn't standards compliant.
 
matthewmyates said:
Yeah I think that *nix is called QNX...but it's been so long since I saw it last that I could be wrong. As I recall it was used for robotics and still wasn't standards compliant i.e. it used C# instead of C and J# instead of Java.
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That one I don't recall. It was bugging me, so I turned to Google (not Bing, by the way) and found Xenix. That was it, I played with it back in the day...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenix
 
gilkisson said:
That one I don't recall. It was bugging me, so I turned to Google (not Bing, by the way) and found Xenix. That was it, I played with it back in the day...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenix
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I still think they have another *nix variant...I remember seeing it being run on the pallet stacking robots in the plant I used to work for. And I remember doing some dicking around on it and saw that it used C# and J#...Xenix is to old for those languages.
 
"...has resigned..."

The very popular and reputable German magazine "Spiegel" writes that they've "fired" him and that it came "rather all of a sudden". Sounds a bit different.

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,640084,00.html

Wikipedia: "Der Spiegel (German pronunciation: [deːɐ ˈʃpiːɡəl], 'The Mirror') is a German weekly magazine, published in Hamburg. It is one of Europe's largest weekly magazines with a weekly circulation of more than one million."
 
Habakuk said:
"...has resigned..."

The very popular and reputable German magazine "Spiegel" writes that they've "fired" him and that it came "rather all of a sudden". Sounds a bit different.

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,640084,00.html

Wikipedia: "Der Spiegel (German pronunciation: [deːɐ ˈʃpiːɡəl], 'The Mirror') is a German weekly magazine, published in Hamburg. It is one of Europe's largest weekly magazines with a weekly circulation of more than one million."
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Well this (if true) changes a lot of things...but I can still see why he needed to go...conflict of interest is still conflict of interest.
 
I wonder how much more "direct competition" Apple can expect from Google?

I wonder if Safari will now have the option of selecting the search engine company of your choice?
 
Habakuk said:
"...has resigned..."

The very popular and reputable German magazine "Spiegel" writes that they've "fired" him and that it came "rather all of a sudden". Sounds a bit different.

http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,640084,00.html

Wikipedia: "Der Spiegel (German pronunciation: [deːɐ ˈʃpiːɡəl], 'The Mirror') is a German weekly magazine, published in Hamburg. It is one of Europe's largest weekly magazines with a weekly circulation of more than one million."
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Time has a similar article: http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1914350,00.html
 
gilkisson said:
Wouldn't it be delicious irony if the next version of Windows to emerge were to be based on a *nix variant? A complete re-write, from a kernel up. They do have the basic tech to do it, MS owns at least one unix-like already.

In any event, this won't be a sudden thing. IBM went from Big Blue to "blue who?" over the course of decades. It'll take at least that long for the world to acknowledge MS ain't the biggest dog in the yard anymore.

Still, it'll be a fun show.
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Don't be stupid and count IBM out.

For one their stock is basically rock solid and two they make money from just about every computer sold, because they hold the key patents. IBM has been one of the key innovators in the computer market for decades. They may not be in the consumer market directly, but their fingerprints are all over it.
 
whatever said:
Don't be stupid and count IBM out.

For one their stock is basically rock solid and two they make money from just about every computer sold, because they hold the key patents. IBM has been one of the key innovators in the computer market for decades. They may not be in the consumer market directly, but their fingerprints are all over it.
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I think he was referring to their market share of the PC market...not their overall profits, which are mainly from high tech software, supercomputers, and nanotech research.
 
Winni said:
Microsoft has enough money in the bank to buy EVERY startup company in the valley - and the only sort of innovation that you can expect from a corporation as big as Microsoft, Apple or Google is the purchase of innovative startup companies.

Microsoft owns the desktop, more than half of the server market and they also have well positioned embedded and mobile platforms and even one of the biggest game consoles. But more importantly, neither Google nor Apple are players in the corporate market, but Microsoft is huge in that lucrative segment.

No, Microsoft won't be eclipsed anytime soon.
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Umm the Server market is dominated by Unix systems. So is Mainframe and Supercomputer. Server 2008 was a stab in the dark and businesses are still not interested. They wont be interested, not until they HAVE TO. (Which is never BTW)
 
matthewmyates said:
I think he was referring to their market share of the PC market...not their overall profits, which are mainly from high tech software, supercomputers, and nanotech research.
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IBM's Solutions division does very well too.

I remember how back in '89 and then again in the mid 90's and then 2000's people wrote Big Blue off and they're outlasting everyone.
 
whatever said:
IBM's Solutions division does very well too.

I remember how back in '89 and then again in the mid 90's and then 2000's people wrote Big Blue off and they're outlasting everyone.
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I think they do that because of their lack of a current public image..."people don't see IBM PCs so they must not be doing good" sort of thing. Most of their business is in behind the scenes stuff...i.e. Supercomputers, microprocessors (they are used in all of the current generation of game consoles), and nanotech. Plus with the major layoffs that they do, while some may say looks like a failing company what they really are doing is sending the jobs to Singapore and restructuring into a model that needs fewer workers.
 
satcomer said:
WRONG! It is based on WebKit. Please get your trolling facts straight.
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Don't hang yourself too much.

The Kernel is Linux on Chrome OS.

WebKit is used for the Help System, Browser, and any other area it can be leveraged.

WebKit is not a File System, nor an Operating System Kernel, nor a user space layer, nor a virtualization machine, etc.

Chrome, the Web Browser [Chromium on Linux] is based on WebKit.
 
whatever said:
Don't be stupid and count IBM out.

For one their stock is basically rock solid and two they make money from just about every computer sold, because they hold the key patents. IBM has been one of the key innovators in the computer market for decades. They may not be in the consumer market directly, but their fingerprints are all over it.
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I love how people go into fight-or-flight at the slightest provocation, even if they have to stretch for it.

I didn't count IBM out. They are indeed still a blue chip stock. All the things you say are true, as far as it goes and for what it's worth.

I'm simply saying, 20 years ago, when you mentioned "computer", people thought of IBM. The terms were synonymous. Just like all bleach is Clorox, all small bandages are Band-Aids, all computers were IBMs. Go back another couple of decades, it also meant punch-card machines... and yes, I read Hollerith code...

So, sorry if you thought one of your sacred cows was being gored. It wasn't. Just illustrating that IBM is not what it once was. And if it can happen to IBM, it can damn sure happen to Microsoft.
 
gilkisson said:
I love how people go into fight-or-flight at the slightest provocation, even if they have to stretch for it.

I didn't count IBM out. They are indeed still a blue chip stock. All the things you say are true, as far as it goes and for what it's worth.

I'm simply saying, 20 years ago, when you mentioned "computer", people thought of IBM. The terms were synonymous. Just like all bleach is Clorox, all small bandages are Band-Aids, all computers were IBMs. Go back another couple of decades, it also meant punch-card machines... and yes, I read Hollerith code...

So, sorry if you thought one of your sacred cows was being gored. It wasn't. Just illustrating that IBM is not what it once was. And if it can happen to IBM, it can damn sure happen to Microsoft.
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It will happen to Google before it happens to Microsoft.
 
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