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Multi-Touch Android and Google Voice triumph with the FCC. Thank you Schmidt for stepping down. Let us continue the open-source revolution without insider dealing.
 
The big difference between Apple, Microsoft and Google is that both Apple and MS make money on cloud computing and Google does not.

Apple may have fewer email accounts on MobileMe than Google has on GMail, but Apple makes more money from those email accounts. Do they make a profit from MobileMe, I don't know, however I'm sure they're breaking even, meanwhile companies like Google are hemorrhaging money on free services in an economy where Ad sales are down...

Having market share only really matters if you make money from that Market Share. Dell has greater market share than Apple, however Apple is making more money per computer than Dell.

I don't think that is true at all that Google doesn't make money off cloud computing. Gmail has Adsense in it and you are a click away from Google Search. In the Chrome browser the search bar and address bar are merged so it is easier to use the search engine. Google is centering everything around their search engine. Also factor in the G-Drive that is coming soon that I bet will have a lot to do with Chrome OS.

Market share is more important for the end user than profit margin. Because Microsoft has market share a greater amount of apps will be available to the end user. Many apps will be garbage but it always guarantees compatibility. While it is nice that Apple is successful, it has no bearing on my life.

I believe that this could potentially hurt Apple. Apple has yet to make any kind of significant move into cloud computing. While I am a MobileMe user many don't use it. It costs what you can get on the web for free although it is fractured. It is also locked down and doesn't intergrate with any other services on the web. Does anyone actually use iWork.com? Even that will eventually cost money.

The truth is that the future is ad supported services because living in the Apple ecosystem and using all their services ad free is too expensive.
 
Google makes 100% of their income based on leveraging everyone else's "cloud" infrastructure.

Nice try.

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Good God! What did Apple do that was shameful. At the worst protect their product, their shareholders and their business partners.

Are people really that stupid to trust Google not only with their emails, but also their voicemails.... They're storing way to much personal information for my liking.

I'm sorry but those are ridiculous comments. What Apple is doing is protecting AT&T against the end user. This has nothing to do with shareholders and their product. Apple is primarily a hardware maker. Apple's profitability comes from the end user buying their product and not AT&T. We are where they make their money. People buy their product because it is a great product. Apple should embrace the openness of the web instead of creating a walled garden. They would not suffer any due to it. In fact they may be more successful because of it.

As for Google I don't trust them either but I have to say that so far it seems that they haven't done anything to screw over their users while Apple has directly and often with the iPhone.
 
It doesn't sound voluntary, more like "highly recommended." They probably found a JB & UL 3GS 32GB iPhone with GV (JB version of course) when he went through the security checkpoint at SV-Apple HQ.....lol :p

Yeah, definitely a cool FailCat.....
 
I skimmed all 5 pages here quickly but didn't see anyone suggest a suitable replacement.

Jerry Wang? Nah! Don't want to see him doing his own version of the monkey dance to "search, search, search." Billy Boy (AKA "Turtle Boy") Gates? Nah! He apparently only reads about the tech industry once a year at a cabin by a lake in Howard Hughesian fashion. Woz? I think they have a "No Segways in the Board Room" policy at Apple.

I know!!! Rob Enderle! Just do the exact opposite of whatever he suggests and Apple will be golden! (yeah, pun intended)
 
I'm sorry but those are ridiculous comments. What Apple is doing is protecting AT&T against the end user. This has nothing to do with shareholders and their product. Apple is primarily a hardware maker. Apple's profitability comes from the end user buying their product and not AT&T. We are where they make their money. People buy their product because it is a great product. Apple should embrace the openness of the web instead of creating a walled garden. They would not suffer any due to it. In fact they may be more successful because of it.

As for Google I don't trust them either but I have to say that so far it seems that they haven't done anything to screw over their users while Apple has directly and often with the iPhone.


No ? type in your address in Google maps and have a look at someone ( maybe you ) walking by your front door.
 
I skimmed all 5 pages here quickly but didn't see anyone suggest a suitable replacement.

Jerry Wang? Nah! Don't want to see him doing his own version of the monkey dance to "search, search, search." Billy Boy (AKA "Turtle Boy") Gates? Nah! He apparently only reads about the tech industry once a year at a cabin by a lake in Howard Hughesian fashion. Woz? I think they have a "No Segways in the Board Room" policy at Apple.

I know!!! Rob Enderle! Just do the exact opposite of whatever he suggests and Apple will be golden! (yeah, pun intended)

Is Diesel Spindler available ? Those were the glory days. :D

I think Woz should be on the board. He cares about computers.
 
Apple has signed agreements/contracts with their carrier partners. Not just AT&T. People are just assuming that this is some big AT&T conspiracy when it comes to Google Voice. It is not. Apple is taking a step back and looking at the big picture. If AT&T said this was fine, is it possible that Orange in France or Softbank in Japan or one of the many other carriers may have objections and feel that this is a betrayal from their "partner".

Apple's profitability does not only come from selling hardware and software, but also from revenue sharing. And there is a lot of money coming into to Apple from their Partners.

Now I don't want to sound like a pessimist, but the entire idea that the Web is open is as ridiculous as transparency in government. It's a great talking point, but not realistic.

The web has never been open and never will be open. It has been regulated since the US governement created it and always will be. So just the fact that the web is regulated means that it's not truly open.
 
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What do you think will be the impact of his departure on the iPhone OS in particular? If hes on the bench then no impact :apple: . If he goes somewhere that will let him innovate and cooperate then the trouble level will depend on how much freedom someone can offer him. :eek:

As Google Maps innovates, will iPhone not pick up features as quickly? They not only don't pick up features but they ban features. Apples needs to learn to let the people decide instead of deciding for them. Once there is a phone that can hardware based (ease of use being key and more features) rival the iphone, provide developers with a "come on in" feel and show more respect then apple and there dictator ways, and market like hell then theres a chance that they will break apples hypnotic ways.

Will Apple keep using Google Maps indefinitely? They will change it when everyone yells loud enough which by now should be loud enough. Until then apple will just state that the demand from people isn't high enough and he knows for a fact that people are happy with it as it stands. :mad:

Will Google stay the default search provider on Mobile Safari? I sure as hell hope so or I'm definitely ebaying this thing. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
So it was iMacs that returned them to profitability, but I've seen it stated on this very board that iPods saved Apple.
The iMacs made them profitable again but the iPod made them rich (ok, OS X also played a big role, as did a lot of other things).
 
- Cloud Computing. What about Web based versions of iWork along with an iPhone version. Seamless use across all three platforms (Mac OS, iPhone and Web).
There was a beta program called iWork.com launched in January but since completely forgotten if not quietly canned.
 
Overdue. He should have resigned when google began development of their phone.

And Levinson has a conflict of interest now being on both boards as well. Needs to go.
 
I wonder why

GOOGLE probably paid him more. SO corrupt like I said but no one listens.
 
And now the real fun and games begin. Kid gloves are all the way off, gauntlet cast down, curtain raised, "To Arms" has been sounded.

Google wishes to supplant Apple. Apple will fight, and a titanic struggle it will be.

The loser of this war will be Microsoft -- Apple and Google will now attempt to out-innovate each other, and moribund MS will be eclipsed.

We are fortunate to have a real-life model of the Origin Of Species playing out in front of us.

This has been a long time coming...with ALL of the major OSs now going to some form of standards compliant UNIX system it was only a matter of time before the one "non team player" who have constantly been bucking standards compliance by "creating their own standard" and refusing to innovate their OS apart from certain aspects of the UI (i.e. the Windows registry still being around) would finally come crashing down. I'm so happy I could just cry!
 
This has been a long time coming...with ALL of the major OSs now going to some form of standards compliant UNIX system it was only a matter of time before the one "non team player" who have constantly been bucking standards compliance by "creating their own standard" and refusing to innovate their OS apart from certain aspects of the UI (i.e. the Windows registry still being around) would finally come crashing down. I'm so happy I could just cry!

Wouldn't it be delicious irony if the next version of Windows to emerge were to be based on a *nix variant? A complete re-write, from a kernel up. They do have the basic tech to do it, MS owns at least one unix-like already.

In any event, this won't be a sudden thing. IBM went from Big Blue to "blue who?" over the course of decades. It'll take at least that long for the world to acknowledge MS ain't the biggest dog in the yard anymore.

Still, it'll be a fun show.
 
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