Google Claims Apple Follows Its Lead in Smartphone Innovation: 'We Take It As a Compliment'

Both Apple and Google have reached the technological height their mobile OS’s can muster at the time. There is no more innovation until either of them announced the next step…

I often wonder if we will have another moment like Steve had when he introduced the iPhone, from either company.
 
Isn't Apple's credo say that they may not be first at doing something but they will do it best? LOL Google. Anything to stay relevant I guess. Saw this quote on Twitter recently and thought it sums up Google really well:

"Google is a series of hobbies in the shape of a company that could be axed at any second."
 
Google is a **** company nobody really cares about anymore.
Haven't used any of their services in the recent years.
Just ignore them.
 
RCS is a Google product and is only really supported by US Carriers. I do think I read recently these carriers fell out with Google over RCS, so not sure if that has been resolved.

In the UK is not supported and I also believe it is not supported in other countries.

Would I want my messages going through a Google controlled message service, no I dont think so.
The company whose mantra used to be 'Dont do evil', funny how that worked out.

So I do not see why I Apple would be interested.

Not having RCS has not stopped me sending messages to people using Android.
 
aky said:
How is it that hard to add an AdBlocker on your Samsung? Just install Firefox and uBlock Origin and you're all set.
I wish I could say the same about my iPhone - on which Firefox is not Firefox (with its own Gecko Engine) but a mere skin of Safari - on which blocking is a real mess to put it mildly.
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What? It's super easy to adblock in Safari on the iPhone.

Try uninstalling the Facebook app on a Samsung phone... That's a showstopper right there for me.
 
ian87w said:
Meh. Stock Android is so behind that it’s copying features that the OEM skins already had for ages.

I mean what’s the tent pole feature of Android 13, or 12? Theming?
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Thats literally been the point. Make it bare bones then let OEM's make their own stuff and only integrate the things people like most to make them universal in the platform in a coherent. Thats how opensource works.
 
They do pioneer some features and apple pioneers some others. I think this is called competition and it’s amazing for us.
 
Can someone explain Apple’s resistance to RCS messaging protocol? What are Apple getting from not adopting it? More people switching to iPhones because of iMessage? If so, iMessage is underused here in Europe as most people continue using WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, etc. instead, all of which are cross-platform.
 
addamas said:
Is it me only or nobody heard about Car Crash Detection on Pixels which had already problem with dialing 112?
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This is fair point. What amazes me is that Google does not put money into showing off their products. Even when they do it's terrible product placement or done in such a way it relates to no one. Apple is very good at product placement and making sure it relates to someone's every day usage. Really am amazed that Google does not learn or do better... \o/
 
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Can someone explain Apple’s resistance to RCS messaging protocol? What are Apple getting from not adopting it? More people switching to iPhones because of iMessage? If so, iMessage is underused here in Europe as most people continue using WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, etc. instead, all of which are cross-platform.
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Google doubled down on RCS because Apple wasn’t going to give away the keys to the kingdom with iMessage. Google can skim data out of RCS, but iMessage is 2-way encrypted (E2EE if layman is above your station). WhatsApp is owned by Facebook, who is also skimming data. Signal is the only third party platform I know with guaranteed 2-way encryption (E2EE).

Apple doesn’t want to hand over its customer base as another thing for Google to monetize and Google is foaming at the mouth about it. These publicity stunts are them trying to generate public outcry for a problem that only exists for Google’s portfolio.
 
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I'll take Tim at his word on this. If Apple iOS/iPhone users wanted RCS as a default over SMS. Then ask for it. Petition Apple for the feature, request it like any other feature we would like to see on the iPhone.
No guarantee it will happen, but like everything else. If you don't ask for it, don't expect to get it. iMessage works great for me. And I enjoy the innovations that have come to it over the years. As it generally gets "used" almost immediately after it's made available. And, tends to work well right off the bat.

I for one don't really care if RCS became the next standard or not. I'm not all bent out of shape seeing a green bubble vs a blue bubble. I understand some are, but as long as the message comes through is all I really care about.
Most of my community of friends/co-workers/family. All have iPhones. With maybe 5 or so of them having an Android phone. It simply doesn't affect me as it may other people. It's annoying when you get a picture or video that's not properly formatted from an Android or iOS to the other. But, again for me it's not a big enough problem.
Hence why Tim maybe saying what he did. Our users aren't asking for it. Many iOS users most likely are in the majority that simply don't care about this issue. Is Apple going to get more users to iOS with this feature? Or, do they like iMessages enough as is to stick with the product?

As far as the other "innovations" go that Google claims they did first. iOS was first. Google moved into that direction shortly after seeing it.

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And it was hideous. It was a better Blackberry than a better iPhone. But Blackberry wasn't the future.
Pixel has innovative features, and plenty of handset manufactures have made innovative improvements with hardware and software. It's just really easy for them to say "we like it when others copy our innovations". When they copied themselves. Apple didn't copy Blackberry. They went their own way. Google copied or tried to improve on Blackberry, but ended up copying Apple. They made improvements and added features as well. All can be true.
 
I watch the 2007 Keynote every now and then. Eric was on stage praising the future on Steve's vision. Here we are.
 
A sales manager told me years ago never to trash the competition because it can insult the buyer who uses them. Sell on our strengths not their weakness
 
Although I criticize Apple being slow adapting useful features and really pissed at them for messing up the battery life on the IOS16, I am NOT buying anything but iPhone and Macbook. Period.
 
brag about car crash detection and then proceed to copy every single one of the iPhone camera features and clone watchOS almost 1:1 but rounded.
 
YEMADOLIA said:
Cringe.
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I think this says it the best. After watching it, I felt like Google probably would have been better served with 1:20 minute video as opposed to a live show...not meaning it in a bad way.

It was true Google could say what they're saying, but frankly it doesn't look good (see we've had a few innovations too just doesn't come off well). Especially after begging Apple to use Google's customized implementation of the old RCS format another time (originally every provider had their own custom RCS implementation), Cringe is what it is.

The RCS messaging beg is after Google blew having their own text and chat messaging in one app on Android (Google Hangouts) like iMessage does, they killed that because of their dysfunctional strategic focus at the exec level of the company that dropped that integrations with Hangouts and could never put it back together.
 
Isn't it true that sales of Pixel phones have been lower with every succeeding generation? I thought I read that somewhere.
 
I wanted RCS before Android ever supported it, and I still want it. That being said, my main provider has an iOS app that implements RCS messaging so I can still use it with other people, even the video calls. Without it using any of my data...

But that would probably make it so attractive if everyone could just simply use it that FaceTime would get serious competition. So there's the reason why we don't have it on iOS.
 
"We take it as a compliment when others in the industry follow our lead, like the always-on display and At a Glance, putting useful information right on your Lock Screen,"
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B****, Nokia had these things YEARS before Google even had a capable device.
 
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