Google Debuts Nexus 6 Phone, Nexus 9 Tablet, and Nexus Media Player

[subsonix]

As for covering them in landscape, the Samsung tablets, for example, have the speakers in the upper halves of a normal landscape mode.

But I referred to this particular case, the Nexus tablet.

Front facing speakers totally beat having the speakers point out the bottom or sides. That kind of design simply makes no sense at all, except perhaps from designers who care more about form than function.

Yes, but sound on a device like this is always going to be a compromise no matter what due to it's small size. It has sound, that's about it. So your point, while it looks valid in theory doens't end up being that big of a deal in the end anyway. That's how I look at it.

 

[FatPigeon]

I seriously don't understand why EVERY tablet does not come with front-facing speakers. Extra points to the tablets that do.

It's so ridiculous to have to cup my hand under my (fill in the blank) tablet to get the sound coming toward me instead of the floor or table or other people.

And how often do you end up blocking rather than directing the sound? Too often for my liking. Really irritates me.

 

[fpsBeaTt]

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look familiar?

Yup

 

[Burger Thing]

It is also a lot wider

Just looked at the actual dimensions

iPhone 6 plus
Dimensions 158.1 x 77.8 x 7.1 mm (6.22 x 3.06 x 0.28 in)

Nexus 6

Dimensions 159.3 x 83 x 10.1 mm (6.27 x 3.27 x 0.40 in)


So a negligible difference in height, nexus 6 is quite a bit wider and a lot thicker.

Note sure how you can you nexus 6 has the same footprint

Come on, it is only about 5 mm wider and in the middle slightly thicker. I would argue, that this is absolutely negligible when you put your phone into your pocket.

It is a huge device, though. But so is the iPhone 6+. When you are in that size territory, 5 mm shouldn't matter anymore. But at least it makes proper use of its size with a maxed out screen:size ratio.

 

[bozzykid]

So a negligible difference in height, nexus 6 is quite a bit wider and a lot thicker.

Note sure how you can you nexus 6 has the same footprint

5mm is quite a bit wider? And the thickness is only measurably thicker in the middle. It tapers to the sides which usually means it feels better in the hand.

 

[MH01]

not considering there is technology out there now that can charge a battery in 2 minutes to 80% and last 10,000 charges

That's nice.

Though in the real world of current phones, 15 min charge for 6 hours use is damn sweet.

 

[Amazing Iceman]

You mean like increasing screen size from 4" to 4.7" after stating publicly on a number of occasions that larger screen sizes were terrible?

Samsung may have rushed into creating a large display phone in a rush, but their apps didn't really benefit for the larger display. Most were just zoomed in to the larger resolution. On the other hand, Apple saw the demand for larger displays increased, and to not be stubborn and adapt to the new demand, they took measures startingwith iOS 7 for new and updated apps to benefit of a future larger display, which has now become a reality.
That's why now apps really take advantage to the larger displays by taking advantage of it, not by just simply doing a cheap zoom in.

 

[JGIGS]

not the same device...one is worth the money and one isn't....im teaching you common sense here.

That's subjective and I'll go out on a limb that the Nexus 6 will be prone to less damage and bend. Aluminum looks pretty but can also get pretty dinged up easily.

 

[MH01]

The nexus media player looks interesting . Might be worth having a play with, as Apple TV is not going anywhere .

 

[Iconoclysm]

Yea because there were a ton of rumors, there are none for the Apple TV.

There are plenty of rumors around a new Apple TV, we've been hearing them for over a year. In fact, the first announcement was expected in March but never happened.

 

[verniesgarden]

specs do matter...oh wait...they don't.

iphones do not have bloatware....or lag.

there boot loaders don't need to be unlocked either.


a little research could help you out.

I love apple and iPhones. But to say they don't have bloat ware is rubbish. I don't want stocks, newsstand, podcast, compass, voice memos app, iBooks, or the new "tips" Can we delete them? Nope.

Apple is just as guilty of bloat ware. And I'd argue it's easier to purge it on android

 

[MH01]

10s of people begin to line up for these amazing new products.

Thought they were sold online ....

 

[romdude]

They aren't getting rid of the Nexus 5

but there not apple products.

nexus 5 sold well at 400$ ....dont think doubling it is going to cause them to sell at the same rate.

foolish business move.

They aren't getting rid of the Nexus 5 so it looks like it will still be there as an option and should be updated soon with Android L.

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That's nice.

Though in the real world of current phones, 15 min charge for 6 hours use is damn sweet.

Totally agree, anything that improves battery technology for everyone, I'm all for it. I wonder if they will ever allow liquid cell batteries or the new type of lithium ion batteries that can last 20 years of use and at least double the capacity.

 

[MH01]

Google, just like Samsung, et al, always races like maniac to beat Apple. We all know what happens too.

How about that Fire phone, folks? Oh, yeah!

Yeah, it amazing how they caught up to apple's larger phone.....

One can argue the phone industry is at a stage where everyone is copying each other .

 

[charlituna]

Another sign that new Apple TV is coming. I think folks at Google know something we don't. Moto 360 was announced 1 day or two before the Watch was announced. Now this.

It's not really a sign of anything, but googles fear that a new Apple TV is coming.

 

[rGiskard]

If this article is any indication I seriously doubt Apple has anything to worry about: http://appleinsider.com/articles/14...er-poor-graphics-performance-vs-iphone-6-plus.

It the same story every new release of an Android phone, great specs on paper but ultimately falls apart in real world usage. Apple seems to be able to do more with less specs. Somehow every Android phone manufacturer has never figured out to accomplish that, not even Google.

And now Google is trying to complete in the same price bracket with the Apple iPhone. Once it was the Google price advantage but now that is no longer the case. It certainly isn't the screen size advantage any longer either. The only Android phone manufacturer that made money was Samsung, not anymore. If anything, Google and the other Android manufacturers are the ones in deep *****. Apple has sold 30 million iPhones in the last couple of weeks, hardly a deep ***** situation.

Android already dominates Apple in mobile device marketshare. You're comparing individual Android device companies but the real comparison is iOS v Android. Check out the aggregate sales of all Android smartphones versus iPhones and the trend is clear: Apple are in decline. The trend is hidden for now because the entire smartphone market is growing, so Apple's sales grow despite taking a smaller slice of the growing pie.

I really hope Android Lollipop finally nails it, because Apple need boot in the arse so they up their game. Unfortunately Android lets all the OEMs alter the OS so even if Lollipop rocks, the devices from Samsung for example will still feature an ugly home screen filled with dubious alterations and "features". If it were more of a Windows model in which every Android phone could run the stock Android OS, then Apple's position would be worse.

 

[MH01]

"We now present the newest Android phone!"

*crickets*

"Hello?"

*crickets*

"But but look at these specs; it's superior to the iPhone in every way!"

.....

.....

*crickets*

Substitute android with iPhone and that is how android users feel about an iPhone launch.

Do you feel better about owning an iPhone ?

I know nexus users are very excited about the nexus 6.

If I were to switch to android , I would get a nexus , I hate bloat ware manufactures put in their phone along with slow update cycles .

 

[charlituna]

. Why not wait until a month or more after the relevant Apple event once the hype has faded?

Because the folks on the fence aren't likely to wait to see if something is announced. Also the hype never dies. Five minutes after the announcement ends, the rumors about next year will start. Plus the rumors of why all the rumored stuff that didn't get announced was "delayed"

 

[skratch77]

So Google needs to partner with Motorola...a company they bought and then sold...to build a 5.9" smartphone while Motorola also sells their own non-stock Android smartphones on the side. Google then has to partner with HTC to create a tablet while HTC also creates their own smartphones and tablets with software skins on top of Android making them non-stock as well. Google also spends most of their time optimizing pay-per-click advertising revenue --- the core of their business and the reason why they even bothered with a mobile OS in the first place.

Apple sells the iPhone and iPad.

I'll stick with

Google always uses different companies for its nexus devices.go do some googling!


HTC, lg, Asus,Samsung and moto have all made nexus devices and sold there own skinned phones.

I'm typing this on a SAMSUNG galaxy NEXUS!

 

[MH01]

I'll just leave this here.

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Sadly Apple TV has not progressed very far since 2010....

Anyway , apple was not the first.

I just wish apple invested more In Apple TV, seems they are not interested unless they can make big $$$$ from it.

 

[Essenar]

$649 = I'll never buy a Nexus phone again. Now the mystique and value conscious argument is gone. The ONLY reason I bought Nexus devices is because they were $200-300 cheaper than mainstream counterparts.

There's virtually no reason to go with it over a Note 4 or S5 and even LESS reason to go with it over a 6 or a 6 Plus.

And it is still pretty perplexing that a quad core 64-bit Tegra K1, for all its accomplishments, still gets romped by a 64-bit DUAL CORE Apple A8.

Seriously, Nvidia is starting to look like AMD in the mobile chip market. Who cares if you have 9 cores and cost $22.99 when you're getting smashed by every chip the competitor makes?

 

[skratch77]

$649 = I'll never buy a Nexus phone again. Now the mystique and value conscious argument is gone. The ONLY reason I bought Nexus devices is because they were $200-300 cheaper than mainstream counterparts.

There's virtually no reason to go with it over a Note 4 or S5 and even LESS reason to go with it over a 6 or a 6 Plus.

And it is still pretty perplexing that a quad core 64-bit Tegra K1, for all its accomplishments, still gets romped by a 64-bit DUAL CORE Apple A8.

Seriously, Nvidia is starting to look like AMD in the mobile chip market. Who cares if you have 9 cores and cost $22.99 when you're getting smashed by every chip the competitor makes?

K1 getting romped? Where has 64bit lollipop been benched?

Please post up the link

 

[iTurbo]

If you're on a carrier that subsidizes phone cost in exchange for two year commitment and provides the third latest phone for free/$1 (plus upgrade fee), then you missed out on getting a couple phones for practically nothing.
Sounds penny wise and pound foolish to me.

I bought a SIM card from StraightTalk via Walmart.com. Paying much less than I did with AT&T now. I did not feel any need to get a new phone, but my little brother gave me his old iPhone 3GS and it has been all I've needed. No contracts and much smaller monthly bill here.

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then it better to fix the paycheck, so hole wouldn't be a big deal.

Seriously? Phone features and specs are that important? Finding work is hard enough.

 

[cababah]

Substitute android with iPhone and that is how android users feel about an iPhone launch.

Do you feel better about owning an iPhone ?

I know nexus users are very excited about the nexus 6.

If I were to switch to android , I would get a nexus , I hate bloat ware manufactures put in their phone along with slow update cycles .

It's a lot harder to ignore an iPhone launch than it is another dime-a-dozen Android phone launch. That was the point I was trying to make. It has nothing to do with me "feeling good" about owning my iPhone.

Now that you mention all the bloatware and garbage that comes pre-loaded on most Android devices and the fact that they require 3x the power just to chug through the inefficient foundation on which they were designed, I do feel pretty good about owning my iPhone

 

[rGiskard]

Inflated or not, I'm sure the difference is negliglbe at those levels. Anyone who claims there's a huge difference between retina and 400+ ppi either have hawk eyes or there's a serious placebo effect going on.

My friends and I sat around last weekend and tried to discern the difference between the 6 and 6+ displays and while we could see a slight improvement in high contrast areas (eg., black text on white background), it was nearly imperceptible and we really struggled to make out the difference. I'm surprised Apple chased the spec battle with the 6+ considering the hit it takes on battery life and graphics performance.

But with all the idiot journalists and non-technical folks who keep talking about how much better Android smartphone displays are due to the higher ppi, maybe Apple had no choice but to cater to the lowest common denominator.

I'd like to see the 6+ get a boost to a true 3X resolution display so it didn't have to downscale 1242x2208, but otherwise the pixel density is adequate for now. I can't find the link but I've read that for an LCD display it's around 450 ppi when the efficiency nosedives, and 1242x2208 does indeed work out to 461 ppi at 5.5", so that's probably why Apple chose the downscaling method. It's likely more efficient to keep the GPU churning at downscaling than it is to add another 60 ppi.

As for the limits of human acuity, one expert believes we can benefit from displays up to about 450ppi at a viewing distance of 7.5". So the current 6+ seems to be a compromise between optimal resolution and battery life. With efficiency improvements they'll probably ditch the downscaling for a true 3X 461 ppi display. Maybe the 6S+?