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if you update IOS 8 onto a 4s you brick the phone. My wife's 5 on iOS 8 is just fine


iOS 8 is fine on my iPhone 5 but, but it seems a little bit slower, especially Safari. I never had any Safari reloading tab on my iPhone 5 on iOS 7, but now opening 3 tabs or even switch from normal to private and back to normal will make all my tabs reload.
 
Where is that study?
Come on, I bet most people lay in bed or sit on the couch with the TV on while they surf on their iPad with no headphones on.

That's a lot of ons.
that's when the rest of the percentage of the users use airplay#
 
You miss his point.

Android pushes specs. Apple pushes experience.

The best example of this was the original iPod vs MP3 players..

MP3 players: the device has 256 Mb of space.
iPOD: 1000 songs in your pocket.

Today:
Google: quadcore snapdragon.
Apple: fastest and most fluid iPhone ever.


Ask your mother or another layperson what resonates most to them.

How do u explain many users complaining about lag on the 6 plus? Nice try buddy, so much for your fastest and most fluid phone ever.
 
following your line of thought, the htc one looks like an iphone because its a rectangle...

No, I outlined precisely why the HTC One looks like the iPhone: Chamfered edges, rounded rectangle, bead-blasted aluminum. It looks much more like an iPhone than the iPhone looked like any phones before it. And the iPhone 6 looks like a really thin iPhone Original sans the chrome bezel, or perhaps the iPad Mini. But let's just forget about all of history because doing so conveniently fits your anti-Apple agenda. The antenna band on the HTC One is different and actually looks better. Outside of that there is no similarity whatsoever aside from every similarity the HTC One has with former Apple devices. How could you argue otherwise? These companies copy line item after line item, and then Apple does something that somewhat copies the appearance of ONE particular part of the phone, and suddenly they're the bad guys. There is incredible logic on display in this thread.

What kind of glasses are you wearing?

Oakley Deringer Titanium:

oakley-deringer2.jpg


These companies copy just about everything apple does when it comes to promo videos, website design, keynote presentations etc. Just look at the presentation video for the chromebook pixel. It looks like a parody video of an apple introduction.

Yeah, but everyone has their blinders on. That is clearly the only way to introduce a product and how dare you say otherwise!

I imagine the screen size for the 6 was planned well before the iPhone 6.
The Nexus 6 is named the Nexus 6 because the last one was the Nexus 5

oh never mind... what's the point lol

It's not just the number 6. Don't look at just any one bullet point and let that stand on it's own. It's the cumulative effect of all the copying that, when put together, is completely ridiculous. What's sad is that Google isn't even the worst offender.
 
The only reason I'd ever consider an Android device over an iOS device is a lower price. Take that advantage away and there is zero incentive to buy.

Just my personal opinion obviously.
 
It is funny that competitor articles whip the fan base here into such a frenzy. Google and Samsung articles are the most commented articles that I ever see posted here. Yet everyone whines about them, they obviously pay well or MacRumors wouldn't post them.
 
Thank you. One useful post in this entire thread. (don't care if it is on topic)
Do you know how they made it capable of such fast charging?
This has always been possible. But fast charging of lithium batteries is (1) more dangerous and (2) lowers battery life dramatically. So, it is not a choice most companies make in their products. The industry has been working on these 2 points almost to the exclusion of all else for several years. (which is probably why we've seen stagnation in battery tech) It will be interesting to see what Google has thrown in here, if the standard 500 cycle lithium cell life has become 300 in this phone, or if they actually have an innovation.
 
Keynotes are for developers and press. They have to tell the people making software what specs the device has. I believe its in the actual advertising to the common person that the specs aren't front and center

Where are all the specs people talking about for android then? I haven't seen Samsung or HTC or moto talk about specs in any of there commercials.

Only during there key notes but I guess only apple can get away with it right?
 
some people are saying that Iphone Plus is already big enough, but the funny thing is that this new Nexus is only 1mm taller than the iphone, yet it has 0.5" bigger screen... still, too big for my taste. But the specs are brutal - Quad hd display (493 ppi!), fast charging, 3gb of ram... oh dear this sure is a beast

493 ppi in pentile.. Well, its barely equivalent of 400 ppi in a lcd.

Specs are brutally useless in real life (not even beating A8's single core performance), not to mention throttling which seemingly no one in the Android space want to ackowledge because they'd get creamed otherwise. So, hey!

3GB of ram because Android needs it to equal IOS on 1G. That's fact Jack.

So, basically, you got a bigger screen. Bravo for that. Otherwise, no so fantastic.
 
Why is the price a joke? The phone is comparable to a low-end iPhone 6.

Uh...what? There is no "low-end iPhone 6". They all have the same internals, minus memory and screen. The processor is most likely faster in the Nexus 6 (I haven't seen many benchmarks on the 805, but it is an absolute screamer). The resolution is higher (PPI). The memory is more (but that's because it has to be).

So what is low-end about this phone?
 
It is funny that competitor articles whip the fan base here into such a frenzy. Google and Samsung articles are the most commented articles that I ever see posted here. Yet everyone whines about them, they obviously pay well or MacRumors wouldn't post them.

They click bait (on the internet) and troll baits; trolls then whip fans (this is an Apple fan site) in a frenzy, which makes more clicks and more page view. So, yes, totally mercenary of the site owners to post this here. No surprise really that it would inflame; these posts are made to inflame.

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How do u explain many users complaining about lag on the 6 plus? Nice try buddy, so much for your fastest and most fluid phone ever.

Ohhh, many, how many then. Please give a number and sources. Come on. Put some meat on your statement... Or, did you just pull this out of thin air.

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Looks like a Iphone buster on paper, but the price tag is a no-go.

Not if you look at actual use... And certainly sales.
 
Uh...what? There is no "low-end iPhone 6". They all have the same internals, minus memory and screen. The processor is most likely faster in the Nexus 6 (I haven't seen many benchmarks on the 805, but it is an absolute screamer). The resolution is higher (PPI). The memory is more (but that's because it has to be).

So what is low-end about this phone?
You really need to learn how language works. Saying "low-end iPhone 6" in the context of iPhones means the lowest model iPhone 6, as compared to other iPhones. So, yes, the 16GB iPhone 6 is the Low-End iPhone 6.
 
Uh...what? There is no "low-end iPhone 6". They all have the same internals, minus memory and screen. The processor is most likely faster in the Nexus 6 (I haven't seen many benchmarks on the 805, but it is an absolute screamer). The resolution is higher (PPI). The memory is more (but that's because it has to be).

So what is low-end about this phone?

The A8 has the fastest single cote performance (still), the Nexus GPU is too slow for its screen. The resolution 493 Pentile, so probably equivalent ot 380-390 LCD (the Iphone screen is good in several other ways than resolution too).
 
I imagine the screen size for the 6 was planned well before the iPhone 6.
The Nexus 6 is named the Nexus 6 because the last one was the Nexus 5

oh never mind... what's the point lol

The new Nexus devices are not named in order. They are named for their screen size. The Nexus 6 has a 6" screen. The previous Nexus 5 had a 5" screen.

The previous tablet was a Nexus 7. This new one is the Nexus 9.

However, Samsung's Galaxy S phones are named in order.
 
Because these companies aren't run by very bright people.

Right....google is ran by stupid people? Your joking right? The only company in the world that can potentially rival apple, in value, based on how you calculate net worth.

Google is a major force in the tech industry...and the reason for that is partially because of the bright people who run it.

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The A8 has the fastest single cote performance (still), the Nexus GPU is too slow for its screen. The resolution 493 Pentile, so probably equivalent ot 380-390 LCD (the Iphone screen is good in several other ways than resolution too).

Eh....I doubt you are correct.

Andantech released a review on the galaxy note 4, same resolution screen and gpu, and the gaming performance was good.

That being said, the nexus 6 is not 64 bit...which is disappointing, considering android L is toting 64 bit features.

Anyway..i love my 6+.
 
The new Nexus devices are not named in order. They are named for their screen size. The Nexus 6 has a 6" screen. The previous Nexus 5 had a 5" screen.

The previous tablet was a Nexus 7. This new one is the Nexus 9.

However, Samsung's Galaxy S phones are named in order.

The nexus 4 was 4.7"
The nexus 5 was actually 4.95

I think regardless of screen size, the nexus phone of late would have been the 6
 
Certainly look quality products, seems that each Nexus iteration is a move upmarket by Google. I'm not sure if they've yet got the kudos to be pricing products at Apple's level?
 
Really, "a beast", it you look a throttling... Well, it is not so good. You know, specs are only so good as you can actually play at that speed for a while.

A8 is already better in actual specs over a period of time, and battery life is of course MUCH BETTER. You can tweek the K1 to tame its impulses, but there is no profiel which gives both as good battery life as the A8 while keeping the performance up. One thing is for sure. If you don't tweek it and keep it as is, the thermals are ridiculous, heat galore.

Dude the CPU side of Tegra K1 64 bit chip is actually extremely powerful and shares very similiar architecture with the A7/A8 by going very wide, the CPU is very beast and is a little faster then the A8's in our new iPhones, but the K1 is so far only found in tablets, so not a direct competitor there, As for the K1 GPU throttling, it does throttle after a while and suffers performance degradation. I wonder if the Nexus 9 design improves on that with better heat dissapation and such.
 
Dude the CPU side of Tegra K1 64 bit chip is actually extremely powerful and shares very similiar architecture with the A7/A8 by going very wide, the CPU is very beast and is a little faster then the A8's in our new iPhones, but the K1 is so far only found in tablets, so not a direct competitor there, As for the K1 GPU throttling, it does throttle after a while and suffers performance degradation. I wonder if the Nexus 9 design improves on that with better heat dissapation and such.

The throttling is severe. You can wave it off IF YOU LIKE, but that's a fact.
 
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